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    Jimmy's Down!

    I did something to my back, its my lower left back and the pain is worse when I weight my left foot. Im back at work but could not put on my socks last week so could not go to work. The Dr put me on Methylprednisolone which seems to kind of be helping. But I don't want to take Methylprednisolone due to its side effects. I have 3 pills left I will finish this cycle but any suggestions as to a alternative? Could a chiropractor help me?
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    Get another scrip and give them to me. Sorry about your back.
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    Have you ever been to an osteopath? My back gets f'd up a couple times a year and it gives me the best results. Seems to be more about gentle muscle manipulation. The guy I see has never prescribed pills.

    They can be tough to find in NH though. I go to someone in Newport, NH.

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    Ok but fyi it makes you fat and cannibalizes muscle the opposite of anabolic steroids. Not good for me.
    People should learn endurance; they should learn to endure the discomforts of heat and cold, hunger and thirst; they should learn to be patient when receiving abuse and scorn; for it is the practice of endurance that quenches the fire of worldly passions which is burning up their bodies.
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    sounds like a slight disk herniation.... any tingling in leg, shooting pain in the buttocks ?

    Your back muscles will be "locked up" and in spasm trying to protect itself. take the time off from exercise and any lifting to let your back release. for therapy I've benifitted from a good deep-tissue massage focusing on that area, follow up with accupuncture and a trip to a trusted chiro. I like to wait some time till swelling goes down and pain/tenderness is reduced before I see the chiro.

    Stay out of the hot tub till swelling is reduced, then it can be a good way to help loosen up the muscles.

    You're going to hate me saying this, as I know how important exercise and athletics are to you; but DON'T rush it!

    These injuries can take up to 21 weeks to heal, tho yours sounds very minor, you do not want it to get worse! you don't know the meaning of pain till you get debilitating back pain.


    Heal up, tuck!

    adit to add: also you mentioned it's on your left side. if it is a herniation, you want to be extra careful as a pinched nerve root going down the left can lead to complications with bowel movement that can be very dangerous, so be aware of any difficulty in that department, or changes in symtoms for the worse. if that happens see a Dr. asap
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    Quote Originally Posted by My Pet Powder Goat View Post

    These injuries can take up to 21 weeks to heal,
    Thanks man, 21 weeks is too long. FML
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckerman View Post
    Thanks man, 21 weeks is too long. FML
    Don' fret...those are worse case scenarios. Yours sounds minor, but it can get worse very quickly if you push it. That's what I did last season...I got a "weak back" moving shit around so I took 3 weeks off and it was getting better but I was impatient and started golfing, and wakeskating, and it got worse till I just moved the wrong way...I seriously wished I was dead for the next 3 months. It took me from july thru november to heal, but was back skiing by christmas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powbmps View Post
    Have you ever been to an osteopath? My back gets f'd up a couple times a year and it gives me the best results. Seems to be more about gentle muscle manipulation. The guy I see has never prescribed pills.

    They can be tough to find in NH though. I go to someone in Newport, NH.
    Word. The gentle manipulations an osteopath does are the basis of orthobionomy, something which I try to tell people here is the best treatment for most issues like this.
    But it seems to go over most people's heads around here. People seem to think the doctor has a magic pill for them to take.
    Orthobionomy trains the muscles to relax and stay relaxed so everything else falls into place correctly.
    Top left button to find someone near you.
    http://www.ortho-bionomy.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    Word. The gentle manipulations an osteopath does are the basis of orthobionomy, something which I try to tell people here is the best treatment for most issues like this.
    But it seems to go over most people's heads around here. People seem to think the doctor has a magic pill for them to take.
    Orthobionomy trains the muscles to relax and stay relaxed so everything else falls into place correctly.
    Top left button to find someone near you.
    http://www.ortho-bionomy.org/
    Only one "instructor" within 100 miles of Boston? Snake oil?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckerman View Post
    I did something to my back, its my lower left back and the pain is worse when I weight my left foot. Im back at work but could not put on my socks last week so could not go to work. The Dr put me on Methylprednisolone which seems to kind of be helping. But I don't want to take Methylprednisolone due to its side effects. I have 3 pills left I will finish this cycle but any suggestions as to a alternative? Could a chiropractor help me?
    A good manual physical therapist who works with athletes. Can't remember where you are in NH, but Dr. Pallof works out of MBSC in Andover, Ma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by systemoverblow'd View Post
    Only one "instructor" within 100 miles of Boston? Snake oil?
    Considering I've broken my back four times, my neck once, come back from paralysis and fucked up most every other joint, bone and muscle in my body, I figure I'm a pretty good barometer of what works and what doesn't. About a half million has been spent putting me back together over the last 30 years. Would have been a lot more if I'd have let the doctors do what they wanted.

    Snake oil? Is that your net nerd herd opinion? Then you should try it.
    There is a difference between practitioners and instructors. But instructors tend to be better.
    Of all the money I've spent coming back from injury, ob was the best place it has been spent.
    But mentioning something outside the realm of the status quo medical profession is usually like casting pearls to the swine.
    I'm almost used to the reaction of people thinking the med profession is the holy grail for back injuries and aches.
    It ain't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    Considering I've broken my back four times, my neck once, come back from paralysis and fucked up most every other joint, bone and muscle in my body, I figure I'm a pretty good barometer of what works and what doesn't. About a half million has been spent putting me back together over the last 30 years. Would have been a lot more if I'd have let the doctors do what they wanted.

    Snake oil? Is that your net nerd herd opinion? Then you should try it.
    There is a difference between practitioners and instructors. But instructors tend to be better.
    Of all the money I've spent coming back from injury, ob was the best place it has been spent.
    But mentioning something outside the realm of the status quo medical profession is usually like casting pearls to the swine.
    I'm almost used to the reaction of people thinking the med profession is the holy grail for back injuries and aches.
    It ain't.
    I didn't say it was snake oil, I asked. I'm just surprised as Boston is home to some of the best doctors and hospitals in the country (world?) that when I put in my location to find one, only 1 came up within 100 miles. Was curious is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    Considering I've broken my back four times, my neck once, come back from paralysis and fucked up most every other joint, bone and muscle in my body, I figure I'm a pretty good barometer of what works and what doesn't..

    or you're just stupid beyond help and people enjoy taking your money.

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    madvres is always so calmly inquiring in an inflammatory manner. it's all so confoosing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by systemoverblow'd View Post
    I didn't say it was snake oil, I asked. I'm just surprised as Boston is home to some of the best doctors and hospitals in the country (world?) that when I put in my location to find one, only 1 came up within 100 miles. Was curious is all.
    I took it as a snark. My bad.

    I'm not inclined to strongly recommend some snake oil bullshit to someone whose aches and pains I can understand, having gone through what has pretty much been the same sort of shit for as long as I mentioned. I declined surgery on numerous occasions. After tons of injections, braces, nerve blocks, pills, lotions, chiropractics, reflexology, bowen therapy, prolo therapy, traction, massage, rolfing and anything else I thought would help, orthobionomy did the most for me. Especially in terms of lasting results (though prolo and stem cells have been thoroughly awesome). A lot of it is positional release techniques. And it works. Whether fast or slow onset, it simply works.

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    This one isn't meant as a snark either, but every time you use the line about the multiple broken backs I am baffled by how the hell you managed that. This isn't really the place for it, but if you ever got around to writing up some of the stories I'd be an avid reader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    Word. The gentle manipulations an osteopath does are the basis of orthobionomy, something which I try to tell people here is the best treatment for most issues like this.
    But it seems to go over most people's heads around here. People seem to think the doctor has a magic pill for them to take.
    Orthobionomy trains the muscles to relax and stay relaxed so everything else falls into place correctly.
    Top left button to find someone near you.
    http://www.ortho-bionomy.org/
    Seems similar to a good massage therapist? (Who understands biomechanics and body structure).

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    Quote Originally Posted by John_B View Post
    This one isn't meant as a snark either, but every time you use the line about the multiple broken backs I am baffled by how the hell you managed that. This isn't really the place for it, but if you ever got around to writing up some of the stories I'd be an avid reader.
    1984 - hit by drunk and drugged driver.
    1988 - hit by runaway semi with no brakes.
    2000 - skied into avy debris at high speed, leaned back, flew face up, took a folded ice layer to the spine.
    2001 or 2002 - construction injury. (Little fuzzy on the year, but attended the first maggot summit while I was still recovering on workers comp)

    Couldn't make this shit up. Car wrecks were the worst. Freaked out many a doc when they looked at my xrays.

    Quote Originally Posted by neufox47 View Post
    Seems similar to a good massage therapist? (Who understands biomechanics and body structure).

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    Similar but quite different. Less rub, more subtle manipulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckerman View Post
    I did something to my back, its my lower left back and the pain is worse when I weight my left foot. Im back at work but could not put on my socks last week so could not go to work. The Dr put me on Methylprednisolone which seems to kind of be helping. But I don't want to take Methylprednisolone due to its side effects. I have 3 pills left I will finish this cycle but any suggestions as to a alternative? Could a chiropractor help me?
    I've been battling a herniated disk for the better part of a decade (not nearly what Splats had to go through, but definitely debilitating at times). When I tweak my back the best things for ithas always been a combo of muscle relaxers, ibuprofen and tramadol. That and a bunch of light stretching and rest

    Tried PT, chiros and massage, but none seemed to help a ton. Once you're back to 70% or so do a bunch of core work to keep your back strong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    1984 - hit by drunk and drugged driver.
    1988 - hit by runaway semi with no brakes.
    2000 - skied into avy debris at high speed, leaned back, flew face up, took a folded ice layer to the spine.
    2001 or 2002 - construction injury.
    Ahhh now I understand your screen name better....


    If your pain is more like off to the side and below your belt, likely no numbness or tingling, worse in sitting, feels like a pinch sensation, makes you change positions constantly,.....throw SI joint subluxation into h ring.


    But guessing at it without a exam s pointless, go find a good, PT/ATC/chiro who knows their stuff and get an exam done and go from there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    1984 - hit by drunk and drugged driver.
    1988 - hit by runaway semi with no brakes.
    2000 - skied into avy debris at high speed, leaned back, flew face up, took a folded ice layer to the spine.
    2001 or 2002 - construction injury. (Little fuzzy on the year, but attended the first maggot summit while I was still recovering on workers comp)

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    some of that might get you out of stupid but i'd have to know more

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    I might be stoopit, but I done learnt and know what the hell back pain is about.
    One thing for certain, the less I move, the more it hurts.

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    My Doc just called with the results of the MRI, herniated disk. Am I fucked?
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    ^^^My brother just got back from the Spine Center. He will need spinal fusion surgery for his herniated disc. but he is not an athlete like you and he has had many back problems over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splat View Post
    I might be stoopit, but I done learnt and know what the hell back pain is about.
    One thing for certain, the less I move, the more it hurts.
    i hear ya. 30 years of chronic back pain and i have learned the same thing.

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