Hjortleifson has been heard, the DynaFit Vulcan

**LeeLau** · 05-07-2012, 06:27 PM

Fwiw I thought the Vulcan skis quasi-brick like with the tongue fore aft. Ie it skis like it has hard stops. Way smoother without tongue

**1000-oaks** · 05-07-2012, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by BoatBound

no, if I had found commentary from Marshal and others that I trusted, I wouldn't have asked. And no, I did read several articles this weekend and none addressed this. There could be some and if you know of them, I would appreciate the links.

Inbounds on tech bindings
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...ng-on-dynafits

Cochise thread
http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/s...Marshal-Olson)

**BoatBound** · 05-09-2012, 02:51 PM

thanks! very useful info- now need think about what whats best for how I plan to use

**LeeLau** · 06-08-2012, 10:52 AM

Review - http://www.wildsnow.com/7553/dynafit-vulcan-review/ -thx to pow11 for the wonderfully expressed comments too

**CarveMan** · 09-05-2012, 08:06 AM

Any comments on sizing relative to the Titan? (I'm in Australia so can't walk into a shop and check one out)

I'm currently in a 25.5 Titan but probably half a size too small. Just about to lose my big toenail for the second time after a 6 mile, 4000' vert walk down a mountain trail, toes crashing into the end. Apart from the lack of length I like the fit of the Titan.

Based on this would I be looking at a 26.5?

**marshalolson** · 09-05-2012, 10:45 AM

the vulcan has a longer toe-box than the titan. can't say that would fix it, but all boots toe boxes can be punched forward a good bit.

**neck beard** · 09-05-2012, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by CarveMan

I'm currently in a 25.5 Titan but probably half a size too small.

You know I had a pair of virtually unused 26.5 Titan UL's in my car when I was parked next to you 2 weeks ago? You could have skied them to try out that day and had them for less than half price if you wanted.

**CarveMan** · 09-06-2012, 07:22 AM

Were they the ones fast_limey might have PMd me about a while back? Would have been good to try them on at least. Oh well, I should have complained more and you would have known!

Anyway it's pipe dreams as I can't see the budget for a new touring boot any time soon, but I do need to fix the return spring on a buckle and the touring buckle extender on another.

Longer toe box in the Vulcan does sound good though, I've had a dozen pairs of boots in a 25.5 & done thousands of days, and while they have all been a close fit the Titans are the only ones that have caused problems.

**D(C)** · 09-06-2012, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by marshalolson

the vulcan has a longer toe-box than the titan. can't say that would fix it, but all boots toe boxes can be punched forward a good bit.

My shop was concerned about punching the toe area of my Titans out of fear of affecting the tech fitting alignment. Is that a possible issue?

**Bird Blaster** · 09-06-2012, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by D(C)

My shop was concerned about punching the toe area of my Titans out of fear of affecting the tech fitting alignment. Is that a possible issue?

Looking to follow this. My UL's need a 6th toe area

**harpo-the-skier** · 09-06-2012, 04:28 PM

Originally Posted by Bird Blaster

Looking to follow this. My UL's need a 6th toe area

My understanding is that this is an issue if you aren't careful. I had the sixth toe in my Titans punched, you just have to be careful not to heat the sole of the boot. You can do this but putting the bottom of the boot in a pan of water while heating, or shielding it with tin foil, or otherwise keeping from heating the sole. Of my concern is punching the front of the boot for the big toe, as the front of the removable sole comes up there and if you punch it, the other sole won't fit. Therefore, my bootfitter ground that area instead of punching. My Titans no fit like a slipper.

**buildakicker** · 09-14-2012, 07:40 PM

Originally Posted by Chugachjed

I'm going to have to get a job...

LOL. Yeah. That is a spendy boot!

Any group buys on TGR?!

Do it Do it!

**StopMakingSense** · 09-14-2012, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by buildakicker

LOL. Yeah. That is a spendy boot!

Any group buys on TGR?!

Do it Do it!

For the amount of shit the last group buy stirred up I don't think this will be happening. Maybe I'm being negative but I'm actually just being realistic.

Either way, I wish this was boot wasn't as wide, I think I'll be keeping my TLT5's and get the forward lean mod done

**buildakicker** · 09-15-2012, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by StopMakingSense

For the amount of shit the last group buy stirred up I don't think this will be happening. Maybe I'm being negative but I'm actually just being realistic.

Either way, I wish this was boot wasn't as wide, I think I'll be keeping my TLT5's and get the forward lean mod done

Being realistic aint negative. Too much of a good thing........

That wider boot would fit my foot real nice... but $1k!? I'll be waiting.

**ready2tumble** · 09-15-2012, 02:38 PM

So does anybody know how this wider last leaves the Vulcan/Mercury in comparison to the Maestrale? Wider? Narrower? Less or more precise? Interchangeable?

**LeeLau** · 10-09-2012, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by ready2tumble

So does anybody know how this wider last leaves the Vulcan/Mercury in comparison to the Maestrale? Wider? Narrower? Less or more precise? Interchangeable?

Little narrower in forefoot and ankle. About as wide in toebox. About as (in)precise which means some padding will be necessary but your toes will wriggle a bit - tradeoffs for comfort that are justified imo

**verbier61** · 10-10-2012, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by LeeLau

Little narrower in forefoot and ankle. About as wide in toebox. About as (in)precise which means some padding will be necessary but your toes will wriggle a bit - tradeoffs for comfort that are justified imo

Uh, for my foot it's pretty different (wider toebox in the mercury, same in forefoot and ankle) so the shape of the foot might be crucial here...

**LeeLau** · 10-10-2012, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by verbier61

Uh, for my foot it's pretty different (wider toebox in the mercury, same in forefoot and ankle) so the shape of the foot might be crucial here...

That's why Internet bootfitting sucks. But people can't get to them without buying and they keep asking so i and you have to give our honest impressions.

**verbier61** · 10-10-2012, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by LeeLau

That's why Internet bootfitting sucks. But people can't get to them without buying and they keep asking so i and you have to give our honest impressions.

Fully seconded

**shirk** · 10-10-2012, 12:16 PM

Why on earth doesn't anyone take real measurements off all these different boots and publish the data?

Or the manufactures could publish their foot last data.

**verbier61** · 10-10-2012, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by shirk

Why on earth doesn't anyone take real measurements off all these different boots and publish the data?

Or the manufactures could publish their foot last data.

In most cases, single last widht data are available, but they're not so useful because boots are not perfect spheres.... And montebelluna's modellisti aree not willing to publish 3D data and to give up to their 50 year advantage over the rest of the world....

**LeeLau** · 10-10-2012, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by shirk

Why on earth doesn't anyone take real measurements off all these different boots and publish the data?

Or the manufactures could publish their foot last data.

I tried to talk Lou into it. But even he isn't that anal. It'd be a huge project. the only person who's meticulous (^^^anal) enough to do this is Sheffitz

**Jonathan S.** · 10-10-2012, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by LeeLau

the only person who's meticulous (^^^anal) enough to do this is Sheffitz

Funny you should mention that, because just yesterday I was thinking that shell dimensions could be expressed by a single number, that would equal:
... the average of...
... the widest dimension at the forefoot and...
... the narrowest dimension at the heel...
... divided by...
... the interior length.
I wouldn’t bother with height, since that is easy to take up with bontex shims underneath the footbed.
And I wouldn’t bother at all with trying to measure anything inside a liner, given that shell fit ultimate is what matters, and liners are of course swappable.
I know this is far from perfect, but I think it would be far better the supposed “last” figures that are currently cited. (Although I suppose those are still better than the “flex” figures, which seem to be suffering from Zimbabwe-style hyperinflation.)