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Thread: TR; this last weekend at Bridger

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    different thad, lmw.

    It was quite nice yesterday, but we didn't stop for pix. It was too much fun to pin it in that snow.

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    Got out there today with FZ, layindowncarves, and two non mags john green and ben miller. the snow was deep and stable except near the ridgeline where there was major wind deposits. skied b-gully and found it to my liking.

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    to the north of the normal (pardon my lack of name knowledge here) boot pack. I saw a pretty large slab that had released today. From my rough measurements of 18-22" deep, but only just below the ridge. It didn't slide more than twenty feet, but things are moving up there. Hopefully this storm settles in, and pushes the westernly wind out.
    ""wash uffize drive me to firenze".

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    Quote Originally Posted by benDover View Post
    to the north of the normal (pardon my lack of name knowledge here) boot pack. I saw a pretty large slab that had released today. From my rough measurements of 18-22" deep, but only just below the ridge. It didn't slide more than twenty feet, but things are moving up there. Hopefully this storm settles in, and pushes the westernly wind out.
    Avy report said an ice layer 6"s down. Was that the bedsurface for this slab? Wind loaded?

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    How much coverage is there? Going out tommorow and hoping to take out my Bros for the first time, but don't wanna wreck my bases...

    Anyone else going out tommorow?
    "She loved snow...That was the simple objective, being airborne, up longer, higher, more casually and with more fuckoff elegance than anyone else...Such endeavours require a kind of egotism, a near autistic narrowness. Everything conspires against you, the habits of physics, the impulse to flee and you're weighted down by every dollop of commonsense ever dished up. Everyone will tell you your goal is impossible, pointless, stupid, wasteful. This idiot resolve is all you have."
    -Tim Winton

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    still trying to figure out how to quote with cool blue highlighting, but to

    answer your Q's Xtrpickles...yes and yes.

    Hopefully, some warmer temps will help with some bonding, but NOAA is

    talking about wind until Sat. Nite.

    Aussie--I don't know if you would reck your bases, but I would be willing try those new bros out for you.
    Seriously, it's pretty good up there. Just stay away from big rocks in South Bowl and North Bowl. I broke a 188 last year this time in South Bowl. There's plenty of packed down stuff out there worthy of a test spin. Just ask Q's, there will be a decent crowd up there tomorrow.
    ""wash uffize drive me to firenze".

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    Went out today, just hiked up to the top of Bridger Lift. There's a good amount of snow out there and I got to try out my Bros. The snow is shit but good lord those skis were like a fucking wet dream. I pushed so hard in that kinda shitty snow and they took it all in stride. Man I am one happy mother-fucker.

    No scratches on the bases either, there was more snow then I was expecting.
    "She loved snow...That was the simple objective, being airborne, up longer, higher, more casually and with more fuckoff elegance than anyone else...Such endeavours require a kind of egotism, a near autistic narrowness. Everything conspires against you, the habits of physics, the impulse to flee and you're weighted down by every dollop of commonsense ever dished up. Everyone will tell you your goal is impossible, pointless, stupid, wasteful. This idiot resolve is all you have."
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    Quote Originally Posted by tone capone View Post
    This is why I have total confidence in the crew up there. They are clearly thinking ahead.

    You mean like allowing folks to ski ridge terrain alone? Without a shovel? How can this possibly be a good thing?

    I can say with utmost certainty that if it weren't for my partners pulling me out I would have died on the Nose 6 years ago. I'm sure there are plenty other folks whose partners have saved their asses up there.

    So by *thinking ahead* you mean they considered how many new BB skiers there are every year, especially this year, and decided all those folks don't need to have a partner to show em around the ridge? Or a shovel to dig em out? WHAT THE FUCK.

    The new chair is going to be awesome, I'm stoked about the boundary policy, but the new ridge rules blow.

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    how bout a cell tower in the canyon?
    (last I knew they work on top but not too much lower- you'll see cars stopped on the road at the stallion station cuz they get a signal there)
    I know its like urban blight, nuthin old west about it
    but does an earlier SAR response trump that? stay tuned....

    yup, gitcher partner's back if they go down=common sense....
    I'll be watchin from a safe zone over here in michigan
    get these details all worked out & Ill catchya next yr mmmkay

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexi-Bell View Post
    You mean like allowing folks to ski ridge terrain alone? Without a shovel? How can this possibly be a good thing?

    I can say with utmost certainty that if it weren't for my partners pulling me out I would have died on the Nose 6 years ago. I'm sure there are plenty other folks whose partners have saved their asses up there.

    So by *thinking ahead* you mean they considered how many new BB skiers there are every year, especially this year, and decided all those folks don't need to have a partner to show em around the ridge? Or a shovel to dig em out? WHAT THE FUCK.

    The new chair is going to be awesome, I'm stoked about the boundary policy, but the new ridge rules blow.

    Lets hope that people are smart about the new rules this year and dont take advantage of it. Ive seen some large slides on the backside in years past...and then theres saddle....
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    After a solid 14" of new snow +2 days myself and a few friends made our way up the ridge into D-route. The wind was howling and we dug a pit to see how the new layers were settling.
    We found mucho instability on 3-4" new/wind slab near the top of Colters, another unstable layer 9-12" We decided to ski the trees off the Nose, and on the way over there, triggered the 9-12" layer into a small slide which maybe moved 25'. Good idea. Some surface cracks appeared when trying to ski cut, but when we made it over to the Nose, they all but went away. Good thing I love tree skiing. The Whirlpools ate up our turns and we all returned to our car safe and sound.

    A lot of people skiing solo I noticed today. Something about skiing at a resort (open or closed) gets folks thinking that it is safe to go-it alone.

    Please don't be stupid! A beacon only works if you have a partner. Who skis solo with a beacon? Obviously Bridger Bowl folks do.

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    I ski solo w/ a beacon, I must be an idiot

    Obviously I expose myself to a greater degree of danger which I fully accept and am completely aware of. Solo skiing is a beautiful thing and allows me to fully tune in to the mountains and tune out people. I love it. I feel like I can achieve a level of mental clarity that I usually don't when I am w/ people. Not to mention I can ski as many laps as I want, where I want, as fast as I want and be home when I want. But I also like skiing w/ people. I am just very happy to have the choice.

    You mean like allowing folks to ski ridge terrain alone? Without a shovel? How can this possibly be a good thing?
    Not a good thing but a great thing imo. I'm all for personal responsibility, if it is above your comfort level to ski solo, don't. That is your choice. But I am totally pumped for the new rules.

    As far as I can tell from the map, the access to Truman's is closed above the St Lawrence slide path, which is a good thing. There does seem to be a lot more people around this year, and I would be legitimately concerned about people dropping in on top of you on lines like the Saddle and the portions of Truman's that are open from the ridge. Hope everyone stays safe, and realizes the snowpack in Truman's if often far weaker than the pack on the east side.

    Don't really care to argue w/ you guys, just stoked on the new rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pnut View Post
    I ski solo w/ a beacon, I must be an idiot
    Not a good thing but a great thing imo. I'm all for personal responsibility, if it is above your comfort level to ski solo, don't. That is your choice. But I am totally pumped for the new rules.
    I agree. Fully. You gauge what may happen when no one else is around. I have been skiing mostly alone all over the west since I was a kid.
    Be smart.

    People will hurt themselves and do stupid stupid stuff no matter what. I say learn from your mistakes.

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    Its imperitave to remember that a beacon is not to be considered a backup plan. A beacon is there for when everything is shot to absolute shit and you need to do the very last thing you can to save someones life. Even then, the majority of avy deaths are from trauma. Its sad but tons of people have been dug out in five minutes but are already dead. The lesson here is that a partner and beacon should not give any confidence. Everyone on the ridge and in the backcountry need to realize that their judgement is whats keeping them alive and they need to stay smart about their line. With that said, a partner is a good tool to double check your snowpack judgement and to pull you out of tree wells. I think that Bridger is putting the responsibility in our own hands, and its super important that we all make good judgement and stay safe. These arguments all came up with the opening of the ridge, D-Route, and the Boundaries, and so far the ski community has done a good job of not fucking up. Lets keep it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lexi-Bell View Post
    You mean like allowing folks to ski ridge terrain alone? Without a shovel? How can this possibly be a good thing?

    I'm sure there are plenty other folks whose partners have saved their asses up there.
    I completely agree. I think the no partner, no shovel, transceiver rule is simply promoting a body retrieval system. Thank god they hired 6 new patrollers.

    Also with the pass pieps combo who are they promoting for? people who simply have no fucking clue as to what is going on! i heard they sold over 800 of those combos! Welcome the shit show people.

    my body would still be hanging out on Dick's if I didnt ski with partners. dead as a door nail.


    I also do not have a good feeling about the result of these rules.

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    MT, when you coming out with a updated stepping up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by workinforturns View Post
    MT, when you coming out with a updated stepping up?
    Hopefully not for a few years...

    I'll chime in that I'm on the fence about the partner thing.

    I enjoy being out there with others, so for me I'd have a partner regardless.

    Although, If you are completely aware of the risks and understand that there will be no one there to help... if you truly understand that, then be my guest.

    The problem is, people don't truly understand that. Moving to NY reinforced that most people are retards. I have never seen so many rules and regulations... they're trying to combat the idiots.

    I say that if you want to ride alone, you ought to have proof of a level 1 avy cert.

    Maybe something you present when you get your pass and its printed on there. That proves you have taken steps to be educated and that you have the basics of reading terrain and that you are aware of the danger that is out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XtrPickels View Post
    Hopefully not for a few years...

    Moving to NY reinforced that most people are retards. I have never seen so many rules and regulations... they're trying to combat the idiots.

    I say that if you want to ride alone, you ought to have proof of a level 1 avy cert.

    A little contradicting, eh?

    Anyway, imo there is no way BB could justify putting in a new lift and only having 15% of the skier population be able to ride the lift. I agree this new terrain etc is pretty much like a big fat carrot dangling in front of everyone. But then again, people need to accept responsibility for their own safety and ability.

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    Alright, I got some questions about this here thang:



    Was the boundary on the far right previously open, or closed? Were all the boundaries technically closed before this season?

    Where did the boundary on the left end...near the Fingers?

    Does the back ever get good snow, or is it always wind scoured?

    Does anyone have a picture with labels that shows the ridge further to the left and right beyond the boundaries? I have only skied at Bridger twice and I am still trying to figure this expansion out.

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    10+ fresh!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreakofSnow View Post
    A little contradicting, eh?

    Anyway, imo there is no way BB could justify putting in a new lift and only having 15% of the skier population be able to ride the lift. I agree this new terrain etc is pretty much like a big fat carrot dangling in front of everyone. But then again, people need to accept responsibility for their own safety and ability.

    Not sure what the contradictions are. Although, I am an idiot for moving to NY. I do, infact, have your book. So I guess that makes me and the other people who own it (most people I know and ski with) in the same boat. My thoughts are that armed with a book AND no partner people could venture where ever they please and end up in trouble. A guide book can only describe things to a point, with conditions, weather, skier traffic, ability etc etc playing a large role. Some of the lines in that book will make you day dream of things you can never accomplish... which is easily realized when you're standing atop the real deal.

    Root-
    Boundaries had access gates on both edges of BB inbounds terrains.
    The west (other) side of the ridge usually got hammered with wind, although it did pick up snow and was very skiable.
    The South (left) boundary was basically the line created by the black line "southbound" up to the ridge. This left a "meadows" area skiers right of the fingers.
    Last edited by XtrPickels; 12-08-2008 at 10:57 AM.

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    Well the wait is almost over... (for bridger lift rides that is) I guess today they let season pass holders ride up the quad from 11-1ish and the Bridger chair was going till 3. Unfortunately I'm sitting in a computer lab on campus wishing I didn't have an exam, a final, and a shit ton of homework due by Wednesday. BUT I'll see you maggots in the lift line some time around the ass crack of dawn on THURSDAY !!!!

    SO STOKED!

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    great time had with recent dawn patrols with some good buddies:



    and today was epic with the chair open:
    FZ


    JohnJohn



    Yours truly

    Snow was good i guess
    Last edited by workinforturns; 12-08-2008 at 06:14 PM.

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    Looks like a good time. Have fun this season

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    Quote Originally Posted by XtrPickels View Post
    Not sure what the contradictions are. Although, I am an idiot for moving to NY. I do, infact, have your book. So I guess that makes me and the other people who own it (most people I know and ski with) in the same boat. My thoughts are that armed with a book AND no partner people could venture where ever they please and end up in trouble. A guide book can only describe things to a point, with conditions, weather, skier traffic, ability etc etc playing a large role. Some of the lines in that book will make you day dream of things you can never accomplish... which is easily realized when you're standing atop the real deal.
    I was referring to the fact that you seemed to be complaining about all the laws and regs in NY and then the next sentence -'I say that if you want to ride alone, you ought to have proof of a level 1 avy cert. '

    Those 2 things contradict each other. I disagree that imposing more rules is going to = any more fun. I moved from a state that is chock full of bullshit laws. I enjoy the fact that in some places, most really, in Montana you can still think for yourself. When you start taking away those things, this beautiful state loses some more charm.

    Feel me?
    Last edited by FreakofSnow; 12-08-2008 at 08:08 PM.

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