Sending a big FUCK YOU to PSB.

[Bart T]

they don't toast b/c that's what you do to old stale bagels to make them edible.

as for why you get rotten service, dunno what to say. maybe try going to the dentist for a cleaning?

[steve]

nothing better than a fresh bagel when its still hot from when it was originally baked.

nothing worse than that same bagel a day later. toasting improves it a little, but not enough to make it worth not finding a fresh bagel.

i haven't had a toasted bagel in 8 years since i moved to NY, because there's always fresh bagels somewhere. even here in rockland.

-steve

[advres]

I generally find I get better service if I don't do that... ^^^(

Gotta amuse myself somehow.

[WWCD]

I agree with the Turd. A fresh bagel should never be toasted. You only do that with stale bagels.

(Fresh = Still warm from Oven.)

There are those, regardless of quality or freshness of the bagel, who prefer the texture of toasting.

[advres]

^^ I think we know whos girl works there now...

[steve]

There are those, regardless of quality or freshness of the bagel, who prefer the texture of toasting.

there are those who have never had a really really good really really fresh bagel.

when it comes out of the original oven, there's about a 20 minute period when the outside actually is crispy.. in such an amazingly good way. that's when you eat the bagel. toast it at this point and you ruin it.

-steve

[WWCD]

there are those who have never had a really really good really really fresh bagel.

when it comes out of the original oven, there's about a 20 minute period when the outside actually is crispy.. in such an amazingly good way. that's when you eat the bagel. toast it at this point and you ruin it.

-steve

Fair enough.

But that window almost doesn't exist in Jackson. Outside of the magic time, I need my bagels toasted.

[steve]

Fair enough.

But that window almost doesn't exist in Jackson. Outside of the magic time, I need my bagels toasted.

i hear you.

even if you caught it in that window, it has to be a great bagel shop, and while I don't know for sure, I wouldn't count on jackson, or the entire state of wyoming for that matter, to have any. so toast away. or not, if the bagel nazi won't do it for you. (that does sound kind of funny)

[Tippster]

BTW - Dancing bear (if they're still open) in West Vail has great bagels. Owner is a "Nice Jewish Boy from Queens," so knows his shit. he also steams his bagels (rather than boiling them) before baking, ala Einstein bagels on the EC - so they're Fat, chewy, and not too dense.

Cue the "must be boiled" purists....

[Happy Fun Ball]

Advres, do you like your bagel toasted because it makes the bagel warm or because it makes the bagel crispy?

[steve]

Cue the "must be boiled" purists....

must. be. boiled., tippster.



steamed bagels... ugh...


-steve

[advres]

Advres, do you like your bagel toasted because it makes the bagel warm or because it makes the bagel crispy?

For the texture.

[Tippster]

must. be. boiled., tippster.



steamed bagels... ugh...


-steve

Unfortunately you need the good Bklyn yeasts for a good boiled Bagel, since it has to rise just right before boiling. Very few places get that right, so the steaming gives them a better texture than boiling (outside NYC.) There's ONE place in the whole DC area that does a good boiled bagel - Bethesda Bagels - and they've been doing it for ~30 years. They get all their yeast shipped from NYC, and by now have a very active airborne culture in their shop (serious.)

[steve]

Unfortunately you need the good Bklyn yeasts for a good boiled Bagel, since it has to rise just right before boiling. Very few places get that right, so the steaming gives them a better texture than boiling (outside NYC.) There's ONE place in the whole DC area that does a good boiled bagel - Bethesda Bagels - and they've been doing it for ~30 years. They get all their yeast shipped from NYC, and by now have a very active airborne culture in their shop (serious.)

i've always associated california bagels (blech) with steam, and NY bagels (yum) with boiling, because that's where i've been. i guess the ny bagel shops i go to have the right yeast.

BTW what do they do at panera bread? that bagel didn't even taste like a bagel.. so i don't count it as such. it tasted like normal bread shaped into a circle.

[Tippster]

Heh - like "Lender's" or "Thomas'" Bagels you get in the Supermarket. Just so fucking wrong.

[rideit]

Does anyone remember the Great Toaster Revolution, when some dude got caught lag-bolting a bunch of old toasters to the outside facade of PSB?
Funny shit.

I have always wanted to bring my own toaster oven, plug it in, and invite anyone to 'toast their own'.

And Tipp, unfortunately, due the the water/altitude/lack of humidity, the 'fresh' (warm) bagels still suck here, and have no 'bark' (crispy-ish exterior)..
The only way to simulate a real bagel is to par-toast it.

Jax was good, but still too baked, and not nearly enough boiled.

[Tippster]

Makes sense.

[Benny Profane]

I just want to chime in here by saying that a slightly undercooked (chewy) bagel is nicely improved with toasting.

[Mott the Hoople]

A bagel with "veggie" cream cheese and tomato. WTF? Real men eat donuts.

[Jer]

OK, I have a few gripes about Pearl Street Bagels in Jackson.

#1 - it's called a toaster. Learn it, use it, love it. Who the hell WON'T toast a bagel except for these douches?

#2 - Get some employees that care about helping the customer instead of how cool they look with their new lip piercing.

Case in point. I walk into the Jackson shop this morning. the place is packed but no one is in line. 3 people are behind the counter not doing anything and me waiting with my thumb up my ass.

At first I thought maybe they didn't know I was there but sure as shit, one of them looks me right in the eyes turns around and walks into the back room. WTF?

So I finally am being helped and I had a super hard order for the person to remember. Onion bagel, veggie cream cheese and tomato slices. This bubble headed ditz repeated the order, I confirmed and she continued to make my bagel while another made my coffee. I get into the office and find, NO TOMATOS ON MY BAGEL. Since it isn't a normal order you would figure she would remember to put the things on considering I am the only one in line and she repeated my order to me 2 second before making the fucking thing.

I guess I shouldn't expect much from some barely over teenage girl who probably went out to the bar for thirsty thursday, then got fucked in the ass by her boyfriend for valentines day.

It was 9:30AM so maybe she was still a little sore and hungover, bitch

/rant

I feel your pain, bro. Just the other day I was shopping for some 24k gold plated wheels for my Escalade (the black one, not the tan one) and not only did they not have them in stock, but they said the company who makes them isn't even shipping the next production run until MAY! So I had to settle for the shitty 14k wheels! Then I get home and find out that the douchebags who are installing my new granite hot tub won't be able to do it until LATE NEXT WEEK!!! Then I go to Starbux and they're all outta sprinkles for my half-caff latte!!! Last time I checked I was living in AMERICA, not some shitty third-world country like Italy! JESUS!!

Stay strong, adveres.

[Trashcan]

God damn Jer? No fucking sprinkles?!? I'd a gone postal on em, Starbuck wankers.

[Obstruction]

It's bagels you want? You should go on the Main in Montreal boychik.

[trainnvain]

She probably volcanoed the cream cheese mount too!! Goddanmit I'm really pissed now!!!

[Game Over]

montreal has some really fucking good bagels.

[rideit]

montreal has some really fucking good strippers.

That's what I read.