Worst Alta poach I have ever seen.

**rideit** · 12-17-2007, 12:59 AM

uhhhh...did you watch the video?

**Crass3000** · 12-17-2007, 02:13 AM

Originally Posted by ruletherock

Why all the hate? I'm a snowboarder turned skier, and I don't see why people have these predisposed opinions that are usually just based on hardcore, idiotic biases. Snowboarding rules. Skiing rules, too. Different strokes for different folks.

When I go out west I couldn't agree with you more -- boarders are alot different out west in my experience. In the Minnesota it's a different story.

I guess snowboarders get on my nerves cause they act like their all revolutionary and look down on skiers. In Minnesota these little punks look at me like I'm an idoit for skiing. They literally give the skiers attitude. I don't get much cause I would beat their ass but the younger skiers get tons of crap. Skiing is REALLY uncool around here.

These little punks board around with bandanas over their face like their at some anarchist convention. They're little tools that listen to Green Day and think their hardcore. It's sad really.

Edit: I was at Solitude the other day and talking to a snowboarder on a shuttle that passed Brighton on the way to the 2nd Solitude base area. He said he didn't like going to Brighton cause the younger snowboarders act like little punks. I actually disagreed with him since I like Brighton and haven't got bad vibes there -- everybody was nice to me. But he just pointed out the window and said "thats what I'm talking about" as we passed a bunch of teenage snowboarders -- they really did look like a bunch of little punks. I guess the attitude must be out there too but I've never noticed it. The last time I was at Brighton the guy working at the shop told me to come back the next day so he could hook me up with a Brighton issue T-shirt since you can't buy the stuff that's like the employees get. Seemed like good people to me but there are alot of punks that make snowboarders look bad.

**Fear Of A Flat Planet** · 12-17-2007, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Crass3000

When I go out west I couldn't agree with you more -- boarders are alot different out west in my experience. In the Minnesota it's a different story.

I guess snowboarders get on my nerves cause they act like their all revolutionary and look down on skiers. In Minnesota these little punks look at me like I'm an idoit for skiing. They literally give the skiers attitude. I don't get much cause I would beat their ass but the younger skiers get tons of crap. Skiing is REALLY uncool around here.

These little punks board around with bandanas over their face like their at some anarchist convention. They're little tools that listen to Green Day and think their hardcore. It's sad really.

Edit: I was at Solitude the other day and talking to a snowboarder on a shuttle that passed Brighton on the way to the 2nd Solitude base area. He said he didn't like going to Brighton cause the younger snowboarders act like little punks. I actually disagreed with him since I like Brighton and haven't got bad vibes there -- everybody was nice to me. But he just pointed out the window and said "thats what I'm talking about" as we passed a bunch of teenage snowboarders -- they really did look like a bunch of little punks. I guess the attitude must be out there too but I've never noticed it. The last time I was at Brighton the guy working at the shop told me to come back the next day so he could hook me up with a Brighton issue T-shirt since you can't buy the stuff that's like the employees get. Seemed like good people to me but there are alot of punks that make snowboarders look bad.

so they have an "attitude" and look at you sometimes. oh and listen to green day. Scary stuff.

**seanhav** · 12-17-2007, 03:05 AM

the eloquent and self righteous intro proclaiming boarders have the right to board anywhere did not at all reflect the attitude of the athletes who partook in the poaching. i can't believe he mr. burton, after his semi-compelling argument in the intro, would follow up with riding over skis, spraying snow on skiers, slapping butts, pretending you don't know snowboards aren't allowed and saying "stein, we just poached your mountain, son." their antics on the hill were highly disrespectful to the skiers and the apparent disdain for the skiers would only hurt their 'revolution' to 'liberate' mountains that have a ban on snowboarding.

**KungFu Eddie** · 12-17-2007, 03:15 AM

I wonder if you could roll up to the lift on a split board and say "it's the newest technology in tele skis" and get away with it?

**gaijin** · 12-17-2007, 05:19 AM

stfu

I feel like I stepped back in time by 20 years.

**rideit** · 12-17-2007, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by seanhav

the eloquent and self righteous intro proclaiming boarders have the right to . i can't believe he mr. burton, .

There is no Mr. Burton, JONG.

**mojorisin** · 12-17-2007, 08:49 AM

Nobody at Alta gives a shit, save for a few decaying guests who literally live at the AL.

**jepilot** · 12-17-2007, 09:38 AM

I'd be pretty pissed off if the kids who snowboard in PA and at Hunter mountain came to poach Alta, but I'm guessing if it was someone like Rideit or Craig Kelly (RIP) I'd be stoked...the latter two would probably have too much class to do such a thing tho.

**boredboiseboy** · 12-17-2007, 09:43 AM

[QUOTE=Crass3000;1590521]When I go out west I couldn't agree with you more -- boarders are alot different out west in my experience. In the Minnesota it's a different story.

I guess snowboarders get on my nerves cause they act like their all revolutionary and look down on skiers. In Minnesota these little punks look at me like I'm an idoit for skiing. They literally give the skiers attitude. I don't get much cause I would beat their ass but the younger skiers get tons of crap. Skiing is REALLY uncool around here.

These little punks board around with bandanas over their face like their at some anarchist convention. They're little tools that listen to Green Day and think their hardcore. It's sad really.

[QUOTE]
I cant stand kids like that..Thats why I avoid terrain parks like the plauge.

**otter** · 12-17-2007, 10:00 AM

I think that snowboarding is very cool. I have photographed some sick riders that blow my mind with their skills, but the thing that bugs me is the attitude that is "in your face". That Deer valley clip was lame. Riding over their skis and slaping them on the but was just plain stupid. Prove how cool snowboarding is by your riding and not how stupid you look on the hill.

**JerseyDave** · 12-17-2007, 12:10 PM

Ha Ha. Snowboarding is over. Skiing is the new "snowboarding".

**nurbs** · 12-17-2007, 01:14 PM

bwahaha , MRG apparntly took the Poach better than Toas

splitboard anyone?

taken from http://www.mikeriddellphotography.com/mrgburton/

**westcoastmatt** · 12-17-2007, 02:12 PM

Did you ever think the reason that they wear the bandanas over their faces and such is because it does annoy you grandpa?

**stump832** · 12-17-2007, 02:30 PM

Nothing says "rad" like poaching a run-out. Those guys were sick!

**DharmaBum** · 12-17-2007, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by otter

I think that snowboarding is very cool. I have photographed some sick riders that blow my mind with their skills, but the thing that bugs me is the attitude that is "in your face". That Deer valley clip was lame. Riding over their skis and slaping them on the but was just plain stupid. Prove how cool snowboarding is by your riding and not how stupid you look on the hill.

Not being a violent person and all, I have to admit that my first thought when I saw them riding over skis and butt slapping was how fun it would be to take one of them down after they did that to me. All in good fun of course.

That said, the patrollers who chased them down and tackled them probably went a little too far as well (but they looked like they were enjoying it too!).

Personally, I don't care where people snowboard or where people ski, but any attitude that disrespects anyone else on the hill is going to get my fire burning. Run over my skis on purpose, on a board or skis, and we are going to have issues.

Just a thought...if someone gets hurt by one of these poachers, could Burton be liable?

**Art Shirk** · 12-17-2007, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Crass3000

When I go out west I couldn't agree with you more -- boarders are alot different out west in my experience. In the Minnesota it's a different story.

I guess snowboarders get on my nerves cause they act like their all revolutionary and look down on skiers. In Minnesota these little punks look at me like I'm an idoit for skiing. They literally give the skiers attitude. I don't get much cause I would beat their ass but the younger skiers get tons of crap. Skiing is REALLY uncool around here.

These little punks board around with bandanas over their face like their at some anarchist convention. They're little tools that listen to Green Day and think their hardcore. It's sad really.

Edit: I was at Solitude the other day and talking to a snowboarder on a shuttle that passed Brighton on the way to the 2nd Solitude base area. He said he didn't like going to Brighton cause the younger snowboarders act like little punks. I actually disagreed with him since I like Brighton and haven't got bad vibes there -- everybody was nice to me. But he just pointed out the window and said "thats what I'm talking about" as we passed a bunch of teenage snowboarders -- they really did look like a bunch of little punks. I guess the attitude must be out there too but I've never noticed it. The last time I was at Brighton the guy working at the shop told me to come back the next day so he could hook me up with a Brighton issue T-shirt since you can't buy the stuff that's like the employees get. Seemed like good people to me but there are alot of punks that make snowboarders look bad.

I like to make fun of boarders too, but there is the obvious contingent of skiers who fall into the same category. There was a "posse" of skiers at Crystal yesterday with bandanas over the face, baggy pants, had no poles, sported wide twin-tips, and they were straighlining little steeps, doing flippy spinny shit on the flats and yelling at people on the chair. I didn't have the urge to beat down any boarders yesterday, but some of the skiers are getting rough to deal with.

**Mr. Altagirl** · 12-17-2007, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by westcoastmatt

Did you ever think the reason that they wear the bandanas over their faces and such is because it does annoy you grandpa?

Says the guy with an avatar of Glen Plake, kind of ironic isn't it?

The only real poach @ Alta would be for a rider to rip down High Boy; if they could do it on a pow day before opening, even better. If they were injured while control work was going on, even betterer. Everything else is ridden all the time, not a big deal and nobody really cares. Some jackass's slapping newbie's on a beginner run while flashing gang signs and talking smack deserve a skier/snowboarder confrontation much worse than the Taos Patrol gave out on their hill.

**Tap** · 12-17-2007, 04:52 PM

blah blah blah blah blah

ride pow

**depressed skier forced to be LA** · 12-17-2007, 04:58 PM

Burton is dumb for egging this on...something about a company promoting illegal activities just doesnt seem like the way to go about it. I am a skier and could care less if snowboarders are around...as long as they dont screw up the bumps anymore

**Tye 1on** · 12-17-2007, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by rideit

There is no Mr. Burton, JONG.

not in that vid, but....Jake would take exception to that as a general statement...Wonder if he's even still with the company.

**ski_adk** · 12-17-2007, 04:59 PM

Well, this marketing ploy has certainly worked. Burton's getting tons of free press and viral marketing. The ski-only areas are making out pretty decently too.

**kidwoo** · 12-17-2007, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tye 1on

not in that vid, but....Jake would take exception to that as a general statement...Wonder if he's even still with the company.

His last name is Carpenter.

**iceman** · 12-17-2007, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by Tye 1on

not in that vid, but....Jake would take exception to that as a general statement...Wonder if he's even still with the company.

No, he's zinging you with the inside info, bro. "Burton" is Jake's middle name, his real name is Jake Carpenter.

edit: damn, five minutes late.

**Sidaman** · 12-17-2007, 05:29 PM

Wasn't Alta one of the first resorts to allow snowboarders, then changed the policy due to the layout of the mountain - lot's of hiking, plenty of flat areas, etc.?