Useless Binding War #101407

**Chris Knight** · 10-08-2007, 01:55 PM

06/07 190cm DPS Lotus 120s Red Stripe currently mounted with Red/Black 916s
07/08 195cm PraXis Powder Black Smoke graphic

07/08 Marker Duke
06/07 Ninja Black 916s

You know the game, match em up or suggest an alternative.
Because, hell, why not?

**cj001f** · 10-08-2007, 01:56 PM

200 Lotus 138s and Dynafit TLT Speed Lite

**Chris Knight** · 10-08-2007, 01:59 PM

Eh, okay, slightly relevant info:

Live in CO, but travel in west a few times per season for big storms.
Have other alpine mounted skis, including 193cm 03/04 Big Daddy as "next biggest."
Tour a fair amount, but rarely long/epic tours, mostly laps and half days.
This will be the only touring setup for wintertime.
I do own Dynafit compatible boots.

EDIT: heh, cj, sell it all and replace? Pretty high transaction cost...

**Rontele** · 10-08-2007, 02:03 PM

Dukes on Lotus; 916s on Praxis.

OR Dynafits for the Lotuses.

**cj001f** · 10-08-2007, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Knight

Live in CO, but travel in west a few times per season for big storms.
Have other alpine skis, including 193cm 03/04 Big Daddy as "nearest."
Tour a fair amount, but rarely long/epic tours, mostly laps and half days.
This will be the only touring setup for wintertime.
I own Dynafit compatible boots.

I dunno about the binders, but if I were a chica I'd go on a date based on that personal ad.

/thrunt

**Chris Knight** · 10-08-2007, 02:09 PM

Pina coladas and walks in the rain?

**Chris Knight** · 10-08-2007, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rontele

Dukes on Lotus; 916s on Praxis.

Devil's Advocate: Lotus 120s have sidecut and no camber, much better for catwalks and inbounds.

Argue with me.

**summit** · 10-08-2007, 02:17 PM

Dukes + Lotus
916s + Praxis

it's a no brainer

**Rontele** · 10-08-2007, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Knight

Devil's Advocate: Lotus 120s have sidecut and no camber, much better for catwalks and inbounds.

Argue with me.

You have to take whatever I say with a grain of salt as I haven't been on alpine bindings in five seasons.

But Dukes + Praxis would seem like a chore to climb with.

**Chris Knight** · 10-08-2007, 02:41 PM

Originally Posted by Summit

Dukes + Lotus
916s + Praxis

it's a no brainer

Yeah, I know. I was just looking for an entertaining internet fight.

How about Dukes on both?
Tele on the Loti, Dukes on the PraXis?

Eh. Ok, so I'm obviously dying here, waiting for the season to get going.
Like I live anywhere where there's snow anyway.

I should just give up skiing and take up curling.

**Conundrum** · 10-08-2007, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Knight

Devil's Advocate: Lotus 120s have sidecut and no camber, much better for catwalks and inbounds.

Argue with me.

120s are more versatile and lighter.

You want to change skis inbounds, you go to the car and and then ride the chair back up.

Conditions change or you run into firm snow back country, it's not so easy.

I would rather hike with 120s and get stuck on firmer snow bc on 120s.

**lemon boy** · 10-08-2007, 02:45 PM

Dude, both of those should get some linkenz.

While keeping the 120s to 1 drilling would be nice, IMVHO they'll tour better than a true rockered ski, I can only guess at the hell that is the 'duct on rocker/reverse skis.

Therefore, 120s+dukes.

And then sell the 916s to finance a second set of dukers for the praxii.

You know the rule, alpine bindings on funshapes are dumb b/c eventually you will want to tour on them.

And, you still are going to need a non-funshape touring option, please tell me you didn't offload all of the sugar daddy based options.

**marshalolson** · 10-08-2007, 02:45 PM

i'd say pop the dukes on the praxxis. if they are terrible to tour on, then switch it around. no reason to pull perfectly good bindings off of the 120's at the moment. unless you want to tele those. but well, you'd still want dukes on the praxxis at that point anyhow.

right?

**Chris Knight** · 10-08-2007, 02:55 PM

Heh. Now we're getting somewhere...kinda?

Summit, cj, and Conondrum say Dukes with 120s.
Marshal says Dukes on PraXis
LB says Dukes on both (or Tele on both)

So? Like moths to a flame...

**Conundrum** · 10-08-2007, 03:05 PM

That was devil's advocate. I didn't read the part about 120s already mounted.

916s on both and send it. Trekkers/skins optional.

**Rontele** · 10-08-2007, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Chris Knight

Heh. Now we're getting somewhere...kinda?

Summit, cj, and Conondrum say Dukes with 120s.
Marshal says Dukes on PraXis
LB says Dukes on both (or Tele on both)

So? Like moths to a flame...

Thanks for leaving my vote out, Dick.

I guess my opinion doesn't matter. Which is a shame because Lemon Boy is still living in an altered universe where the Linken is actually a good binding

**lemon boy** · 10-08-2007, 03:14 PM

Ha ha, yoss is all perplexed.

Another option is to make a firm decision to slap the dukes on the 120s and to ski those hard for a month or two to see how you like the whole duke shebang. If it really works all over for you then putting those on the praxii also would make sense (btw - I think that over some of the other people here that provided there's no fuckup with them or thing you hate, you of all people are a strong candidate for using them as true "everyday" bindings). Marshal's point is probably the more sensical version of that equation though.

As for rontele- at least I don’t get stuck with all of the panty wringing whiney decision making process you're stuck with. There is never a doubt as to what to mount, never a doubt what setup to use and never a worry about pre-release. Of course, Yoss is a big grandma and always skis R8s like it is 1993 or something.

**Chris Knight** · 10-08-2007, 03:15 PM

Ha! That's pretty funny Ron. Whoops!

Well, I'm glad we got this all straightened out, now I can go out and badly thrash through some mediocre terrain with expensive gear that I don't really need.

**Chris Knight** · 10-08-2007, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by lemon boy

Of course, Yoss is a big grandma and always skis R8s like it is 1993 or something.

Woah there big fella, I'm up to 1997 at least!
I wiggle turn on R8s with mid-fats (teledaddys) now.

**doublediamond223** · 10-08-2007, 03:18 PM

Nice sig D...........christ.

**lemon boy** · 10-08-2007, 03:22 PM

Well at least you've properly categorized your skis.

**Rontele** · 10-08-2007, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by lemon boy

As for rontele- at least I don’t get stuck with all of the panty wringing whiney decision making process you're stuck with. There is never a doubt as to what to mount, never a doubt what setup to use and never a worry about pre-release. Of course, Yoss is a big grandma and always skis R8s like it is 1993 or something.

I have no panty wringing decisions. Inbounds ski = HammerHeads, touring skis 01s, but with the pre-loaded cranked down.

The only tough decision I am currently wrangling with is which color HammerHead (blue or black) to put on my Iggies.

**lemon boy** · 10-08-2007, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rontele

The only tough decision I am currently wrangling with is which color HammerHead (blue or black) to put on my Iggies.

a travesty either way.

**Rontele** · 10-08-2007, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by lemon boy

a travesty either way.

Please. You are just having second-class plate binding envy, LB.

**lemon boy** · 10-08-2007, 03:43 PM

with six of the best telemark bindings on six of the sickest big mountain rides ever produced I don't think that envy has anything to do with my quiver...other than what people feel when they review its hulking radness.