Ceiling Goverment Watches You Masturbate

[Rontele]

Our biggest ally in this fight is the 10th Amendment. The federal government is forbidden by the Constitution from commandeering the States to implement federal programs such as this. See, e.g., New York v. United States.

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[adam]

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What the fuck?

[Free Range Lobster]

David, why are you in this thread? There are no helicopters or bombs?

[Jer]

They're grounded today.
So I'm annoying the T.L.A., as they apparently prefer to be known.

[Buzzworthy]

David, please lay off the LSD.

[Odin]

This thread has been one big tease!

Where is the link between rfid's and masturbation? Roofies? It's roofies isn't it.

[Free Range Lobster]

They're grounded today.
So I'm annoying the T.L.A., as they apparently prefer to be known.

Oh.
Right.
Carry on.

[powpowpowderwheels]

I think it's just the ID cards that will have the chips implanted in them...

Does it really matter? Where are you ever without your driver's license?

[seldon]

Our biggest ally in this fight is the 10th Amendment. The federal government is forbidden by the Constitution from commandeering the States to implement federal programs such as this. See, e.g., New York v. United States.

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Yeah, and the federal government couldn't possibly use similar powers to institute nation-wide drinking ages or anything like that.

[AfroMullet]

have you seen google earth?
the government can look into your fucking sunroof and see your lonely self masturbating if they really want to. worry about something that matters.

[smalls]

according to the army grunt sitting next to me, all military IDs already have RFID chips.

which means that this is obviously big brother's plan to prepare us all for an increasingly militaristic society.

[Chainsaw_Willie]

Does it really matter? Where are you ever without your driver's license?

That's exactly the point. While I don't have anything to hide, that doesn't mean my pattern of activities might not appear suspicious to some authority someday. I neither want nor need anyone actively recording my presence in the 7-11, or the bathroom at McDonalds, or the grocery store, or the gas station, or anywhere else. Where I go, when, and for what purpose is my business and my business only. I am not a criminal and I resent being treated like one just on the off chance I might someday do something the powers that be don't like.

Consider also that if these RFIDs get into money AND your ID it will be possible to track that money wherever it goes. If I pay a friend for doing some work around my house it's entirely possible the fact that $XXX dollars just changed posession from myself to him could be tracked by some agency. The monitoring agency will not know why I gave him the money. Maybe he also deals drugs and when he's caught I'll be investigated as well.

Also note the picture that's posted above, the little box with the antenna on it - that's the reader. The transmitters are much smaller.



Description of above device:
http://www.iautomate.com/t501.html

Keep in mind that these are low-cost commercially available units and that as technology progresses they will continue to get smaller and smaller. The one pictured above could easily be used as an ID card just by reducing it's size only fractionally and imprinting the picture and other text on the outside of it.

Now every time you come within 200 feet of a federal building, school, bank, post office, <wherever>, your presence will be recorded and entered into a database somewhere.

Furthermore, a larger, more powerful reader will be able to read a smaller and more compact transmitter at even greater distance. It sounds like science fiction but it is not out of the realm of possibility that such technology will soon allow the tracking of your movements 24 hrs. a day by satellite. All of this paid for with taxes, by the way. Is that what you want your government doing with your money? Will it really stop suicidal fanatics from blowing up buildings? Perhaps, if the technology eventually reaches the point of sophistication and ubiquity to where the acquisition of components for bomb making would automatically trigger an alarm. But at what price to freedom overall?

Thomas Jefferson was a great visionary. You may argue that what he said was said in a different time and a different world which created different circumstances, but I still believe in his vision of freedom and applaud his understanding of it's inherent risks.

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it. "

"Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add 'within the limits of the law' because law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual."

"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground. "

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

[MeatPuppet]

^^^Exactly right. Well said CW.

[Nate Dogg]

I'm really just here to test out my new Summit inspired sig....but I agree with Summit, Chainsaw, etc. that this is a dangerous idea and in no way do I see the benefits outweighing the potential risks (based on the limited information I have seen).

[BmillsSkier]

New drivers license looks like that?



Think of the money to be made selling man-purses or orthopedic wallets

Not sure if this will work with Costanza wallets

[skilife]

"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither"

Benjamin Franklin

[phUnk]

I'm covering my penis with tin foil right now, just cause!

I'm putting my penis up against the monitor.

You guys reading that OK?

[Chainsaw_Willie]

"Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither"

Benjamin Franklin

Indeed. Mr. Franklin is another of my favorites.

If we could harness the power generated by our founding fathers spinning in their graves, the Gores wouldn't have to spend extra for green credits.

[Free Range Lobster]

I'm putting my penis up against the monitor.

You guys reading that OK?

sloooow pitch.

[Jer]

Okay, I'll swing ...

"No, my monitor's resolution isn't fine enough to pick out such small details."

[splat]

Did anyone mention that hiways will have monitoring stations that will track your movement?

This shit has been in the works for a long time. They were just waiting for the society to get dumbed down enough to swallow the pill. I had a vid about this ten years ago that went into all the ramifications of it. When I told my friends about it, I was glibly written off. In the movie, they said the early version had a 6.66mb memory. If only the Christian Right, represented by Pat Robertson, would latch onto the religious implications. But, as a man of God, he's too busy condoning assassination. Who better to do the devil's work?

[Free Range Lobster]

Country is already on its way to hell in a handbasket, might as well seal the deal.

[Jer]

Nah. They canned the monitoring stations long ago - too big, too obvious, too vulnerable.

All U.S. cars post-2008 will have a standardized "black box" built in, ostensibly to track performance stats - location, speed, direction, tire pressure, fuel consumption, weight in each seat, rhythmic bouncing, choice of radio station - you know, the basics.

Any cell phone within range will read the info and upload it to the [TLA] net. Traffic violations will be detected by comparing speed + location + street map, and fines will be billed as extra minutes on your phone bill.

Edit: This proposal has many beneficial aspects that the original poster has failed to note.
For example, citizens will no longer be subjected to aesthetically displeasing, obtrusive and somewhat discomfiting surveillance cameras.
Furthermore, when vehicle performance parameters deviate from manufacturer's specifications, the driver will be promptly notified via text messaging and directed to the nearest certified vehicle maintenance and repair establishment.
Salutary channels of radio communication will automatically be suggested to fit the needs of the driver and passengers.
We expect that this proposal will result in the accrual of significant economic and moral benefits to the general populace.

Last edited by TGR Admin : Today at 09:15 PM. Reason: because the TLA said to.

[Chainsaw_Willie]

splat, the infrastructure for that system is already being put in place here in Washington.

If you drive I-90 east of Snoqualmie pass, look at the pavement. You will see a pattern of three hashmarks at every seam in the concrete in one lane, both Eastbound an Westbound. The groups of three are at the same width and position as the tires of the average passing vehicle. The hash marks were created when the DOT embedded small sensors in the existing concrete at these spots. The small article in the newspaper at the time explained that these sensors were designed to be used for an experimental auto-guidance system that would allow for driverless cars. Of course, there are many other uses to which they could be put.

[adam]

What in the hell is TLA and why is TGR being their bitch?