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    The United States government passed a bill called "THE REAL ID ACT" which will require all states to issue their citizens a national id card with an RFID (radio frequency identification) chip implanted in them. The national id cards will replace old driver licenses and state/photo id cards. To make sure every state agrees to this the government stated that "any state that does not meet the standards set forth in the real ID act will lose all of it's federal funding".

    After may 11, 2008 anyone without this national ID card will be unable to board an airplane or AMTrack train, open a bank account or enter a court house or national park and much more for that matter.

    The government does not openly describe the use of RFID chips by name-they attempt to hide the fact that they will be keeping tabs on us all with this chip. Here is what the law says in regards to the RFID chip:

    A common machine-readable technology, with defined minimum data elements (the details of which are not spelled out, but left to the Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of Transportation and the states, to regulate).

    These RFID chips can be tracked anywhere at any time through you clothes, purse and walls. RFID chips have been in use in several commercial products on the market today (Gilette mach products & Philadephia cream cheese packaging ). There has been talk of using it in money in the future. This would mean every time you obtain money from a bank or store it would be ran through a scanner and the rfid chip will be updated stating the money is in your posession. When you later spend the money at a store the rfid chip will then allow the government to know when, where and what you spend your money on.

    Here are links to reputable news articles

    http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/08/12/ra...ids/index.html

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...-changes_x.htm

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    This is being fought very heavily by most of the States. The costs involved in implementing this are massive and the federal gov't is providing little or no funding to offset those costs.
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    If they try to cut me open and stick some chip in me. I'm moving to somewhere else.

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    Looks like I'll be microwaving my new drivers license.

    "Gosh sir, I don't know why it doesn't work."

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    will I still be able to get my ski pass?

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    No way a chip is going to be implanted in anyone. I'm calling it now. Not going to happen.

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    I think it's just the ID cards that will have the chips implanted in them...
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    Quote Originally Posted by runethechamp View Post
    I think it's just the ID cards that will have the chips implanted in them...
    for now...

    we are implanting RFIDs in pets and stock animals...

    you are next... i guess it is less unsightly than a barcode. Futurama had it right.



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    Last edited by Summit; 02-27-2007 at 04:47 PM.
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    As Odin once said, Testify!
    "All God does is watch us and kill us when we get boring. We must never, ever be boring."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Looks like I'll be microwaving my new drivers license.

    "Gosh sir, I don't know why it doesn't work."
    Lets sum this up.
    You ruin license.
    The cop instead has to run your license number which is just going to bring up the same shit anyhow instead of scanning it.
    This makes him pissed because he has to waste time because of your conspiracy theory ass.
    Your speeding ticket gets bigger.

    Fabulous idea.

    Thats right.
    Fabulous.

    The RFID is a fantastic idea in thwarting fake ID's and stopping illegals.
    It can hold enough data for your mug shot etc. and is VERY difficult to forge.

    Quote Originally Posted by adam View Post
    These RFID chips can be tracked anywhere at any time through you clothes, purse and walls.
    Not easily. Most have a very short range.

    This would mean every time you obtain money from a bank or store it would be ran through a scanner and the rfid chip will be updated stating the money is in your posession. When you later spend the money at a store the rfid chip will then allow the government to know when, where and what you spend your money on.
    And all the gov has to do now is say "hi bank, give us his withdrawal info" or "hi credit card company, give us his purchase history". Where exactly is the difference? Oh, right. There is none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Free Range Lobster View Post
    Lets sum this up.
    You ruin license.
    The cop instead has to run your license number which is just going to bring up the same shit anyhow instead of scanning it.
    This makes him pissed because he has to waste time because of your conspiracy theory ass.
    Your speeding ticket gets bigger.

    Fabulous idea.

    Thats right.
    Fabulous.
    Speeding ticket is tied to the speed you were tagged at. OTOH disabling the RFID chip prevents tracking my location and activities. Remember these RFID chips can be scanned at long distances. National, state, and local governments as well as corporations and small businesses could put a scanner up at every store, intersection, etc... maybe only .gov can cross reference that to your biometric data and police record, but it makes you automatically trackable in a surrepticious manner.

    Wait till we see RFID-Presence activated IEDs in foreign countries... nice way to make sure you hit Americans (btw they are already planning on putting RFID chips with biometrics in new passports)

    Wait until ID theft is as easy as walking by you with a suitcase and scanning your RFID.
    Last edited by Summit; 02-27-2007 at 04:58 PM.
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    skiing is hiking all day so that you can ski on shitty gear for 5 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Summit View Post
    Remember these RFID chips can be scanned at long distances.
    My father worked on TIRIS which is one of the most well known RFID's in the world. Infact Europe is HUGE (hudge) on using these to track livestock. (bwah)
    They have a range of about 5 feet. You can't track RFID's "long distance".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Free Range Lobster View Post
    Not easily. Most have a very short range.
    How in the hell do you know the tracking capabilities of the goverment's devices?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam View Post
    How in the hell do you know the tracking capabilities of the goverment's devices?
    Do you even know what RFID stands for?
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    Shit, they can do all of that tracking your cell phone usage.
    And everyone has one of those!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rideit View Post
    Shit, they can do all of that tracking your cell phone usage.
    And everyone has one of those!
    Quick! Wrap it in tinfoil!
    wooooooooooo!

    ISPs by law keep records of your activity on the internet. WAWAWEEWOW
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    radio
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    I'd let Condi Rice watch me masturbate. Is she in on this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Free Range Lobster View Post
    My father worked on TIRIS which is one of the most well known RFID's in the world. Infact Europe is HUGE (hudge) on using these to track livestock. (bwah)
    They have a range of about 5 feet. You can't track RFID's "long distance".
    You've done it now - Summit's going to get all nerdy on us.

    When he pauses for breath can you ask him if I should take the battery out of my garage door opener when I want to avoid being tracked by satellites while speeding on the freeway?
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    And to think I was losing faith in the public school system.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFID

    edumucation for you.

    active RFIDs only have a range of about 300 feet max, and they're large (think bigger than your speedpass)

    an RFID that will be stuck in your passport and/or would be stuck in your license just has menial data and has to be very close to the reader to be read.

    Quote Originally Posted by PNWbrit View Post
    When he pauses for breath can you ask him if I shoud take the battery out of my garage door opener when I want to avoid being tracked by satellites while speeding on the freeway?
    Infact, you ever wonder why Walmart puts those HUDGE RFIDs on stuff? OoooOOOOOEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOO Time for more tin foil.

    Infact, here's a TIRIS:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven S. Dallas View Post
    I'd let Condi Rice watch me masturbate. Is she in on this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odin View Post
    Ann Coulter with a pair of hedge clippers slowing opening and closing.
    I'd give that yummy exoskeleton the business like POW! But I'd like to keep my johnson, if possible.

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    I'm covering my penis with tin foil right now, just cause!

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    RFID = Run For it Dumbass!

    that said, i'm a little worried about what could be pulled off a passport, id, or credit card w/ RFID.

    Pick-pocketing would no longer be necessary, just stand next to someone - where's the art in that?
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