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Well damn.Quote:
Originally Posted by ZipFit_Jeff
A bit of a sad day, killing old zips, but a fruitful harvest for filling new zips!
How did they die?
13 seasons and 700+ daysQuote:
Originally Posted by DoubleBogey
Well done
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Originally Posted by DoubleBogey
I don’t think I have had a single piece of gear, either skis or bikes, that saw more use and produced more enjoyment than those liners. Sad to cut them apart, but I’m glad the magic they possess will live on in my new zips.
They’re not cheap but I don’t think there’s better value out there. Not only the durability but the performance upgrade as well.
Finally bit the bullet and bought a pair for my Radical Pros. Coming from an Intuition, I'm pleasantly surprised at the ROM, especially while striding forward. Hoping the comfort is more than enough to take my mind off the extra weight.
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Originally Posted by mb7cbc
You’ll love it. Maybe save a crappy liner for when you don’t care about skiing and just want light, but since you’re in Radical pros you’ve already made the decision to put function over weight. And you’ll never be able to ski a crappy liner again, so just toss it.
Does anyone have a feedback on whether the GFT being less warm than intuitions holds true in warmer conditions? Are they any better or worse in mega warm, sweaty swamp foot inducing temps?
GFTs are less breathable. I don’t notice it so much during the tour, but I’ve had 12-hour spring days where I pulled my liners off at the car and my feet/lower legs looked like they’d been in a hot tub for too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaster
Not something I notice while skiing or really think about afterwards though.
Same. Feet get wet for sure. No issue though. Biggest difference is the GFT doesn’t feel super soft and loose when it’s warm.
Weight, price and temperature regulation are the three things Intuition has the GFT beat on. Durability, skiability (compared to other tongue liners), fit tweaking are in the GFT column. I have boots the GFT simply will not fit in either (TLT 6).
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Bump for 24/25 season - anybody in the know have any info on any updates to the GFT for this season? TIA
Is everyone just paying retail here? It's looking like I'll need a GFT and a Gara LV or Corsa for new inbounds boots (Lange ZR). Hard to stomach $1000 in liners...
I found mine on ebay new but Zipfits might be the only thing I'd pay retail for in skiing, considering the performance and the amount of days you can get out of themQuote:
Originally Posted by auvgeek
Is there anything inherently bad about just getting in the liners while they're in the boots and not using the "world cup" technique to get them on? I have Atomic Hawx xtd and just picked up some lightly used GFTs, with the way the shell overlaps it is a huge PIA trying to get them on with that Zipfit recommended technique at home, can't imagine it's any easier out in the cold getting ready to ski...
You risk pushing some of the cork around the achilles into your heel pocket (which would then push your foot forward in the boot) but I don't think you'll actually damage or cause excess wear anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by vermontana
I've actually found it easier to "world cup" my garas in to my XTDs than it is to go the normal way with the stock liners. I put some PTFE tape on the boot board and inside the rear of the cuff to reduce some friction when stepping in. Just gotta hand spread the lowers a bit to assist.
Ah okay - well probably best to avoid that and keep the heel pocket molded as it's meant to be. Appreciate the tips, will try that PTFE tape.Quote:
Originally Posted by FullStop
Anyone get a better view of the lighter-weight touring liner yet? I've seen some black/red liners floating around IG but can't tell for sure if they're the new ones. Who's got the scoop?
I could see you wearing the neoprene in the heel prematurely.Quote:
Originally Posted by vermontana
I saw a version. It definitely wasn’t the final layout.Quote:
Originally Posted by bthomson22
This was my thought too. Taking them off while leaving the zips in the shells is what forced my 12 year old all leather world cups into retirement. I imagine leather is more susceptible to this than neoprene.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenBC
“Who wants a life imprisoned in safety?” - Amelia Earhart
Posted up on the Mimic liner forum but crickets - has anyone been able to compare these to the Mimic Pro XTD or Backland Pro liners? I have always had to result to a larger boot due to chronic neuromas, hoping to find something that can help keep my heel locked in without having to use heel inserts to take up volume. This typically causes me to have more neuroma issues due to more pressure being placed on the ball of my foot.
Anyone been able to compare the two? Or has anyone used a gft in a Backland XTD? How is it getting in the boot with the gaiter?
I’ve used my GFTs in Hawx XTD and Backland XTD and they are better in every way than the stock liners for my uses (relatively short tours, care more about boot fit and heel hold on the down than ROM and weight on the up).
If you look in the Backland XTD thread there is some chatter about GFT interfacing with the gaiter, and there is more in this thread back on p. 10, including my method (which I think works well). Short answer is that they place nice for the most part, its just a little fiddly getting in, and it can take a few tours to get a hang if it. Once you’re in they work great.
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Awesome, thanks for the input! Were you in a Mimic Pro liner prior or just the standard stock liner?Quote:
Originally Posted by waxloaf
I was in the stock liner in the 2022 hawx prime xtd 130, which i know has mimic. But not sure about mimic pro; I don’t know the various iterations of liners well since im always in zips pretty much
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All good. The Pro’s have the foam injection ports (similar to Zipfit cork but obviously a different density and design). Sounds like you just had the standard molded foam liners.Quote:
Originally Posted by waxloaf
Exactly. Skinny heels and ankles have me looking at Zipfit, but I also have Raynauds so warmth matters and I’m too much of a weight weenie to be able to stomach a >500g liner.Quote:
Originally Posted by zion zig zag
This future hybrid cork-foam liner sounds perfect.
Anyone use the GFT with a Scarpa 4 Quattro? I’ve been using GFT’s in a Lange XT3 Tour Pro since 2021, and just bought replacement shells - Scarpa 4Q Pro’s. I have pretty much a perfect fit with the GFT + 4Q, but getting my GFT-clad foot into the boot is a nightmare.
I plan to use UHMW tape in the clog, but I’m not sure how to prevent the rubber stalk thing at the top of the fabric heel gaiter (see pic) from getting caught under my heel. A boot horn sort of works, but juggling another piece of plastic makes it harder to spread the cuff overlaps and pry up the tongue. Also, I don't want to have to rely on a boot horn as I won't have one on me when touring...
Thoughts?
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Maybe not the answer you're looking for, but why not bring your boot horn touring? I can't get my GFTs into touring boots without it. It weighs nothing and doesn't take up room in the pack.
Read up in the thread - there are a bunch of tips on how to deal with a gaiter and the GFT
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That may be what I'll have to do. I'd rather not be dependent on the horn, though. Also, these boots are a challenge even with the horn with the four overlapping pieces of shell, tongue, and clog. Ideally, I'd be able to extend the stalk to the top of the shell so my heel stays in front of the stalk and gaiter while I pry the overlaps from the front of my foot. I plan to try to extend the stalk by sandwiching it in UHMW tape, but I doubt it will hold...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jongle
Not a good touring solution, but to get in my Lupo Ti I use an extra tongue as a boot horn.
Works great, and flexes open the back cuff a very small amount.
Not sure if you've tried this (or if it'd even work w the quattro), but I'm able to get my GFTs into my Scarpa F1 LTs a lot easier through the gaiter by opening up walk mode, and dropping the cuff down parallel to the ground, then stepping in through the gaiter using a boot horn...
Also to note, happy to report that my GFTs seem to fit into my Hawx XTD and the F1s similarly, still need to mess around with the ankle pouch cork but very impressed with comfort and performance so far with some early season touring.
Not to be a total naysayer, but I’ve never understood who would want to use the same sweaty boot liner for over a hundred days.
Do people have some sort of cleaning routine that takes away the bacteria and sweat?
Boot dryer?.. I use one that has optional heat (always turned off) and my liners have little to no funk with probably around 150 days.
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Yeah, I have a couple of pairs of Zipfits (Freerides and GFTs) with 50–100 days on each, and there is zero funk. I use a boot dryer, but even so, Intuitions would be funky by now even with regular drying.
I do a spritz of disinfectant/deodorant spray each day and have nifty little sacks of cedar shavings that do the drying. Helps with the funk on intuitions anyway
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