Questions for shmoesmith.

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Originally Posted by 13

i think it's time for the big shots at bc.com to call a meeting with their employees.

you have my personal information over there -- name, address, email, CC#. should i be concerned this information will be handled carelessly like demolition woman's reputation was? she was one of your own, for crying out loud -- a sister in riding and a fellow employee.

i'm definitely going to remember this episode and the horrible taste left in my mouth the next time i'm clicking through backcountry/steepandcheap/tramdock/dogfunk.com.

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do you even know if its someone at backcountry? maybe you should get those facts straight before you go slandering their good name :nonono2:

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Originally Posted by rideit

Jena se Qua?

Is that some ebonics little girls name?

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I spewed coffee on this one.

The cliche he was trying to quote is "je ne sais quoi." Literally, "I don't know what."

Savoir faire is more ambiguous, literally, "to know to do." Obviously it's an idiom, I've just forgotten what the idiom means. Where's phillipeR when you need him...

I know, I lived in france for a few years....but that shit was funny!
(the phrase has come to mean 'a certain something, undefineable' outside of the literal translation)

Savoir Faire, IMO, means to have a certain panache in how somone approaches an action, an adroitness based on intimate knowledge. I am sure there are subtle differences depending on context.

Concerned Mormons should stick to their day jobs...

http://www.toniwells.com/Images/b_mormons2.jpg

that way they don't look so silly.

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Originally Posted by InspectorGadget

it's slippy's way of confirming that he really doesn't know shit about the French language.

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Yahoo Answers for Je ne se que (one of their spellings): The way it's used is to allude to mystery or a style that can't be duplicated.

I'm still an idiot, but I'm not a moron. Que lastima for me.

je ne sais quoi

Asphinctersayswhat?

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Originally Posted by powbmps

Asphinctersayswhat?

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http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k2..._m13/Garth.jpg

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Originally Posted by bklyn

Of course there's more than meets the eye here. Although so many have hopped up on the high horse, inside their brain everyone who knows this story has speculated as to why it happened.

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that is true, of course, but it is also irrelevant. we cannot avoid our tendency to be curious - it's what makes us human. But we can also choose to say that the details are none of our business.. and set aside the curiosity.

so in my case, a part of me really wants to take doug up on his offer to get the details via PM, especially after viewing that powerpoint presentation with all the photographs. I was really emotionally struck by that. But I'm not going to, because it really is none of my business and I've got nothing to gain by knowing and he has nothing to gain by telling me. it would therefore be tasteless an inappropriate for me to ask for it in private. to try to bring it out in public would be downright wrong. So I deny my desire to do so, just as I deny myself that extra scoop of ice cream, deny myself the pride of winning an argument, deny myself a night out with friends if it means neglecting responsibilities.

I think it's very unfortunate that concerned maggot was unable to do the same, and then this crap goes down as a result. The worst part is he knew what he was doing - it was wrong to do it, or he would have done it by his regular username. Yet he did it anyway..

Je ne sais quoi = what Rideit said.
Savoir faire = know how.
Jena Sequa = Mormon pornstar.

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Originally Posted by bklyn

If you're a skeptic and a cynic, don't be so quick to put up your cash...

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Word.

I have long suspected the over-generosity and willingness of maggots to throw money at each other would blow up like this. It's unfortunate that it happened surrounding such a tragic event. We all have our own problems that we must take care of. The only time i have ever donated was to send Marshal to the summit, because he is one of my best friends, and even that was half because I owed him lunch and a beer. I have been following this out of sympathy, but gave no money. As far as I have seen, Shmoe has not solicited a dime. He has only asked for emotional support - you have all just given freely, for which you should be commended. But, when you gave money, you didn't ask for the details (did you expect them to be pretty?). Why ask now? If a lesson was to be learned on his behalf, Shmoe is learning it in the most difficult way. Leave it at that. If you feel your money was not well donated, then be more discerning in the future instead of being so quick to jump on the "nice guy list."

I give only my condolences to Shmoe and the families and friends affected by DW's death and am sick at the sight of this thread.

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Originally Posted by powder11

do you even know if its someone at backcountry? maybe you should get those facts straight before you go slandering their good name :nonono2:

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There's been a whole lot of folks hanging themselves in this thread.

bklyn - It's hard to tell who has the highest horse.

Trojan horse?

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Originally Posted by bklyn

Concerned Maggots revealed no big secret - except the hypocrisy behind the mask some people are wearing here in the guise of the "maggot community". Posting on a message board does not make you instant friends forever and trying to pretend it's that way with everyone you meet encourages people to be fake. Most likely, Concerned is a person(s) who knows Schmoe and could take a 20 minute drive to ask the hard questions face to face - and get all the answers. What's missing is the balls to do so, or write this up under their own names.

Of course there's more than meets the eye here. Although so many have hopped up on the high horse, inside their brain everyone who knows this story has speculated as to why it happened.

Maybe they were looking for the clue, the something they could have done to avert disaster. Maybe they saw themselves in what happened and did some personal soul searching. Maybe it was analytical, so they looked at the "facts" and in their mind 1+1 <> 2. Maybe they sat in judgment and made themselves feel better about their own lives, or maybe they were looking to place blame.

If you're a skeptic and a cynic, don't be so quick to put up your cash...

Too many people here love to see "paypal sent" next to their username. It's won't assuage the guilt of not being a friend to them before and your coin doesn't mean shit if it comes with conditions or worse yet a spiteful tax.

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This needs to be on another page.
I really wish I had Trayc's ability to translate thoughts into words.

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Originally Posted by slippy

I kinda always held this place with suspended disbelief....I mean half the people I've met from here have been dicks to me, despite what the welcome wagon says. A bunch of others have been dicks to me only online, which is also awesome. I ain't perfect myself, but y'all should just stick to skiing and joking around...it's a SKI forum.....no offense to the nice peeps I've met. This place is no different that any other retarded forum around, although I know you guys are in fucking love with it. That's my opinion after this mess....and there's the disclaimer. Even the jokes have fallen off lately with all the rookies....at least the TRs will keep me here. And the bike forum. And the padded room. Fuck, I'm stuck.

Roo, if you're a dick when I finally meet you, I'm gonna pee on your shins.

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Dude, who the fuck has been a dick to you?

No one who has any idea who you are, I bet. But wait... no one knows who you are. You even pull your hat down so no one can see your face in your POWDER profile, and yet you're surprised you don't get treated like royalty.

Odd.

edit: ok that was harsher than necessary, but seriously, who has been a dick to you in person?

are you kidding me? i was at backcountry.com today checking out the sale.

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Originally Posted by powder11

do you even know if its someone at backcountry? maybe you should get those facts straight before you go slandering their good name :nonono2:

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exactly. i didn't hide behind a cowardly alias and spray off a bit of my own tasteless satire mocking the all-too-familiar turd slingshotting on tgr and powdermag before it. dodging the loamy, stinking, steamy piles that get launched has happened before -- CM (cum muncher) just reset the bar to an all-time low and of course people are up in arms about it.

shmoesmith handled cum muncher's inquisition pretty fucking well under the circumstances -- if he gets through this, he'll manage just fine. he's got my back and the maggots, which is 99.99% more support than cum muncher has.

this is an all time low.

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Originally Posted by P_McPoser

this is an all time low.

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Why?

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Originally Posted by iceman

Why?

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Seriously?

The jackass who started this thread is clueless, heartless and tactless.

Shmoe didn't ask for the money.

Everyone gave of their own free will.

Nothing that could emerge will change the fact that his wife committed suicide.

Why anyone would think that the gossipy details preceding her death would somehow entitle us to "answers" is beyond my ability to comprehend.

This is so beyond the bounds of basic human decency that your inability to see why this would represent an all-time low makes me sincerely question your upbringing and intelligence. In what fucking world is this type of shit acceptable? It absolutely blows my mind that not only would someone post this shit, but that others in this alleged community actually view as within the bounds of acceptability.

To the tubestick who started this abortion, and all of those who explicitly or implicitly encourage this via your words or your silent acquiescence, you are all beyond the pale. This crap has no place in a civil society.

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Originally Posted by iceman

Why?

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Because those who contributed did so not caring what the whole story was (it seems). I don't give a shit what the whole story is, the man lost his wife, that's all I need to know.

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Originally Posted by Tin Woodsman

To ... those who ... implicitly encourage this via ... your silent acquiescence, you are all beyond the pale.

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Phew! Lucky I already replied in this thread. So that's what David Witherspoon was up to - at a later stage he's going to reveal who viewed this thread without protesting and out them.

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Originally Posted by steve

so in my case, a part of me really wants to take doug up on his offer to get the details via PM,

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Yeah, me too. Same part of me that occasionally enjoys celebrity gossip. Still fighting it successfully, though.

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Originally Posted by steve

especially after viewing that powerpoint presentation with all the photographs.

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Huh? What powerpoint?

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Originally Posted by Toby

Phew! Lucky I already replied in this thread. So that's what David Witherspoon was up to - at a later stage he's going to reveal who viewed this thread without protesting and out them.

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Honestly - the type of shit that is contained in the thread starter is no laughing matter. It's so fucking dark and just plain wrong - the author should have just put up a video of himself torturing a puppy and that might have ben easier to see. If your moral compass doesn't point directly towards due "Fucked Up", then you should be looking in the mirror instead of wisecracking b/c it took me to point it out.

Silence is not necessarily equal to acquiescence.

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Originally Posted by rideit

Je connosait Mucho de la langue francais, verdadly.

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Mastery of the french language is like a metrosexual cry for help BTW.

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Originally Posted by Tin Woodsman

Honestly - the type of shit that is contained in the thread starter is no laughing matter.

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You want it serious? WhiteLight spelled out my message:

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Originally Posted by WhiteLight

Silence is not necessarily equal to acquiescence.

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Humour is often an effective way to deal with grief and/or heavy situations.

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Originally Posted by Plakespear

I agree with the sentiments of many here who have stated that this is the worst thing they have ever seen on this site. When shmoesmith lost his wife, that was by far the wosrt news I have ever recieved on this board. Qustioning the morals and personal life of someone who is need of help is truly in poor form.

Over the last few years I have recieved probably $10k myself in donations and gifts from the Maggot community (granted, probably at least $1500 of that has been in beer, but nonetheless...) Has there ever been a thread where someone has asked me for a note from my doctor before donating? Think about this, when I first got sick, I had probably only met 5 or 6 people from this site, and none of them were people I would consider to be friends at the time. The next thing I know Yossarian is calling me up teling me to read a thread. Not once did anyone ask me for proof of my medical condition, or even question it.

Shmoesmith, from what I can gather, had many friends who personally knew him from TGR when this tragedy happenned, some of whom were by his side immediately after it happenned.

As far as CM's questions go, here are my opinions on the matter:



I think he has been pretty damn honest with such a personal matter


That's none of your fucking business.

That's none of your fucking business. All I know is that a divorce would be better than a death.


That's none of your fucking business. But why would he lie about something like this?


Oh, really? This shit is exactly what makes a bad situation worse.


Should the guy have to tell his whole, difficult story to the world. This is a very private matter, i.e. NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS.



Yes. I actually sent him a pm about this subject. It's a funny thing to be offered a ton of money from strangers. All I can say is that this gives me a glimmer of hope for our fucked up society.

CM, does it matter why DW did what she did? If you think this is some sort of punishment for leading what you think is a sinful lifestyle or something, you are fucked in the head.

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What he said Now go fuck yourself, CM. You fucking asshole motherfucker.

Hang in there, Doug. Hopefully you're not reading this bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Mrs Roo

Big Trev and Agent Gordon are kick ass cats. They'll inflict some claw damage if there are any attempts to piss in their direction.

Agent Gordon is ACTUALLY a ninja.

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Is this him?

http://feckoff.net/coppermine/albums...0001/ninja.jpg

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Originally Posted by Plakespear

All I can say is that this gives me a glimmer of hope for our fucked up society.

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This place ain't utopia, but it is a little slice of heaven.
Shit happens. Sometimes it hits you in the face.
Don't let anyone put a dimmer on your glimmer.

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

Is this him?

http://feckoff.net/coppermine/albums...0001/ninja.jpg

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:D

Agent Gordon is far scarier. He's a ninja agent after all.

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Originally Posted by splat

Don't let anyone put a dimmer on your glimmer.

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.....or some poo in your shoe

.....or some roo in your shoe

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Originally Posted by alpinedad

Huh? What powerpoint?

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it was shown at her funeral and then posted here somewhere..
It would take a few minutes to find it... which I'll take later this afternoon if nobody knows it offhand.

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Originally Posted by steve

it was shown at her funeral and then posted here somewhere..
It would take a few minutes to find it... which I'll take later this afternoon if nobody knows it offhand.

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Never mind -- found the thread. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by iceman

Dude, who the fuck has been a dick to you?

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It was me, I saw him in the credits for some Travis Rice show on MoJo and I flipped him the bird and sent him dirty thoughts. I'm fucked up like that.

why not just out the thread strater someone must know

Funny to me how some of the residents of the home of the self righteous get their shit all twisted as soon as they hear a few baseless, hollow gossip bits about someone they've probably never even met. Or maybe you have met him? Maybe you and he are best friends? Still - busting someone out at the lowest of low times in his life, defaming his private business and pissing on his dead wife's grave? :nonono2: That's just sick. What the hell is this? TGR-reality tv? Come on. Are you THAT obsessed with the nuances of "some guy" on the internet's private secrets? Would it change your life any even if he did come out and punch you in the face with the cold truth? Would you sleep better at night because of it? Would you want your money back? How about the warm fuzzy and the bullshit internet-good-karma you got that went along with your monetary donation? So much for giving with a cheerful heart. :rolleyes:

Answers? How about you fuckers drag a few of your own skeletons out of the closet first.

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Originally Posted by BLOOD SWEAT STEEL

How about you fuckers drag a few of your own skeletons out of the closet first.

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I killed a bunch of people a while back. Also, I still listen to A Flock of Seagulls on a regular basis.:eek:

Seriously - Chris Gephart got outed. CM is easily a much more gigantic douchebag than CG could ever hope to be. I don't know a whole lot about computer stuff, but how hard can it be?

I can kinda understand CM. Not the money thing as that is just being a controlling prick. The question part just because too much information was given. Anything past suicide and depressed is too much. For me anyway. The curious part of my brain went " what the fuck". The logic part of brain wants to make sense of something that cannot be made sense of. Some brains start working overtime. And in this case ask questions that should not have been asked.

In hindsight info was given that should not have been. Shoe wanted to share, which is fine the problem is that some people didn't respect that was all he was willing to share.

For you that are curious chew on this. When I was in first year university I stayed at a smallish residence ~ 120. Second term a guy who was graduating that year committed suicide. Had finished off all work on projects and stuff. Was an A student glee club type of guy. Seemed to have lots of unattractive girls that he hung around with. Its entirely possible that this guy was still a virgin

Ok this is how he did it. He locked himself in a wooden garden shed. Dosed the shed with gas and lit the shed. Just think the planning that went on to kill himself the most painful way possible. That is so fucked up that I for one cannot comprehend it. The imagery of the whole thing is worse than any horror movie. Just think of the message that he sent to all those close to him and family.

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Originally Posted by str8line

This thread is by far the worst thing I've seen on this forum. Everyone who has not come out strongly against it ought to be ashamed.

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Then I'll put in my .02.

I'm at a loss for words. In one strange way, what lph said over on page 2 makes a good point, however what Beaver said about the hookers and the blow - I'm all for that too.

I could care less what he spends our money on. However, I would hope he would use it for funeral expenses, taking a little time off work to grieve, and finding a new place to live - things he's expressed are on his agenda.

Personally speaking, I think Doug disclosed too much information to this community when he said what the police told him the day after she died. We have no right to know that!! Sure, it tipped my curiosity a bit, but it doesn't cancel out what happened to his wife - and that's the whole point here. It's a tragedy.

My sincere condolences to you Doug. "Concerned Maggots" is a fucking tool for even thinking he was in the majority by posting those questions.