To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

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08-29-2021, 04:11 PM
BCMtnHound

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

We should never refuse care to anyone

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The binary is easy. Whole lot of grey in between, from making one comfortable as the face their fate, to no stops back from the brink and beyond. Triage sucks.
08-29-2021, 04:37 PM
CascadeLuke

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Originally Posted by Harry

Just learned today that my brother’s SIL tested positive on Friday. (this would be the SIL of my brother’s BIL who has Long Covid…). Unvaxxed, lives in rural Georgia, belongs to a Baptist church that handles snakes and speaks in tongues, 2nd grade teacher at a private school (I.e. white people only.) Extremely fat, has anger management issues, and is a complete know it all about every subject under the sun.

Reason she got tested ? On Friday as she was getting off a cruise ship in Florida they pointed a temperature gun at her and detected fever. They made her get tested and bingo. Vax was required to get on ship. I know she is unvaxxed so obviously used a fake card. Isn’t lying covered by the Ten Commandments ?

I could honestly care less if she lives or dies at this point.

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Sounds like a standard RW selfish dirtbag. Hope they investigate her card and she gets charges.
08-29-2021, 04:52 PM
old goat

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Originally Posted by riser3

Ok. Yes, I could see myself saying that as a joke. In deadpan. Because I we're both smartasses. It was probably bad enough that I asked about cell service.
However. I assumed the chip folks above are serious. Because the news is not good these days regarding the Qtards. Mea culpa.

I'd guess making a joke. After all, the guy was getting the shot, so not seriously Q. How many cell reception jokes have their been on this forum.

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Originally Posted by Harry

Just learned today that my brother’s SIL tested positive on Friday. (this would be the SIL of my brother’s BIL who has Long Covid…). Unvaxxed, lives in rural Georgia, belongs to a Baptist church that handles snakes and speaks in tongues, 2nd grade teacher at a private school (I.e. white people only.) Extremely fat, has anger management issues, and is a complete know it all about every subject under the sun.

Reason she got tested ? On Friday as she was getting off a cruise ship in Florida they pointed a temperature gun at her and detected fever. They made her get tested and bingo. Vax was required to get on ship. I know she is unvaxxed so obviously used a fake card. Isn’t lying covered by the Ten Commandments ?

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Seems like handling snakes is more dangerous than Covid.

Re who gets care--there is a precedent. In the early days of kidney dialysis there were panels who decided who got to use the limited number of machines. Precedence went to young, people with families to support. If it ever comes to that I hope the decision isn't left up to providers in the trenches. The standards need to be made ahead of time with plenty of input--perhaps most of the input--from non-medical people.
08-29-2021, 05:07 PM
XXX-er

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Originally Posted by riser3

I do actually think they should be saved.

from Covid or themselves ?
08-29-2021, 05:10 PM
MagnificentUnicorn

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Originally Posted by old goat

I'd guess making a joke. After all, the guy was getting the shot, so not seriously Q. How many cell reception jokes have their been on this forum.

Seems like handling snakes is more dangerous than Covid.

Re who gets care--there is a precedent. In the early days of kidney dialysis there were panels who decided who got to use the limited number of machines. Precedence went to young, people with families to support. If it ever comes to that I hope the decision isn't left up to providers in the trenches. The standards need to be made ahead of time with plenty of input--perhaps most of the input--from non-medical people.

IME lay people don’t know anything and always push to “do everything” when it comes to their loved ones even if our interventions are hopeless.

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08-29-2021, 05:10 PM
XXX-er

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Originally Posted by DougW

Certainly in the US response to Covid has been very politized which is never good. In Canada I think its more bipartisan whackadoodleness with a tendency to be more from the right wing minded. But the highest correlation on whether one is a populist or not. Conspiracy minded people who go on about Big Pharma can be from either side of the political divide.

I've heard the same Anti-vax silliness on both sides of the line cuz Glen Beck is just a click away where ever you are but I just wonder if there is less of it up here cuz the death figures are no where near as bad ?
08-29-2021, 05:21 PM
Flounder

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Originally Posted by Kinnikinnick

Vax right wing media denier #10,000 dead as a doornail.

https://www.businessinsider.com/anti...m-covid-2021-8

Certainty purging a number of these right wing knuckleheads from the earth.

Where’s that “justify atheism” thread? I’m starting to think there just may be a god, and she’s got a pretty good sense of humor.
08-29-2021, 06:15 PM
XXX-er

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Originally Posted by Flounder

Where’s that “justify atheism” thread? I’m starting to think there just may be a god, and she’s got a pretty good sense of humor.

Probably also a person of color, that would really fuck up the cons belief system
08-29-2021, 06:16 PM
old goat

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

IME lay people don’t know anything and always push to “do everything” when it comes to their loved ones even if our interventions are hopeless.

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Yes. Before people start talking about denying care they should be talking about pulling the plug sooner when chances of survival are minimal. Maybe that's already happening--I'm armchair doctoring here. Unfortunately these are decisions that have to be made by the treating team, not by panels.
08-29-2021, 07:52 PM
riser4

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

from Covid or themselves ?

Yes.
08-29-2021, 08:09 PM
Adolf Allerbush

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Originally Posted by XXX-er

Probably also a person of color, that would really fuck up the cons belief system

Isn't it relatively well established that Jesus was Arabian in appearance?
08-29-2021, 08:13 PM
mcski

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Isn't it relatively well established that Jesus was Arabian in appearance?

I thought he was a gardner
08-29-2021, 08:21 PM
Adolf Allerbush

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Originally Posted by mcski

I thought he was a gardner

Carpenter?
08-29-2021, 08:26 PM
XXX-er

Also did some fishing and hung out with Shady women,

could be a lot of guys in the Valley
08-29-2021, 08:34 PM
KQ

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Isn't it relatively well established that Jesus was Arabian in appearance?

Mormon Jesus is blonde and blue eyed
08-29-2021, 08:55 PM
TBS

^^^And with a very stern countenance…
08-29-2021, 09:18 PM
MagnificentUnicorn

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Originally Posted by mcski

I thought he was a gardner

Like related to Earle Stanley?

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08-29-2021, 09:36 PM
old goat

Since the area of what is now Israel and the West Bank was conquered by Alexander in 332BC and since the area later came under Greek rule it would not be surprising if Jesus had some non-Semitic blood and a less Semitic appearance. (Alexander was considered by Jews to be a benign ruler, at least compared to previous conquerors. Alexander is one of the few non-Old Testament names Jews traditionally gave their children. Of course nowadays it's more likely for a Jewish girl to be named Alex than a Jewish boy.)

Under the Greeks some Jews did not circumcise their children, which led to severe divisions in Jewish society, not unlike the divisions between pro and anti vaxers today. And now we're back on topic.
08-29-2021, 09:43 PM
rideit

Slow down, OG, you are talking a mohel a minute.
08-29-2021, 09:54 PM
KQ

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Originally Posted by rideit

Slow down, OG, you are talking a mohel a minute.

🤣
08-29-2021, 10:00 PM
Adolf Allerbush

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Originally Posted by rideit

Slow down, OG, you are talking a mohel a minute.

Classic... hilarious. Well played
08-29-2021, 11:56 PM
rideit

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I made that up all by myself…

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08-30-2021, 08:36 AM
Jethro

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Originally Posted by KQ

Mormon Jesus is blonde and blue eyed

https://m.facebook.com/awakenwithjp/...1C&ref=sharing
08-30-2021, 09:11 AM
KQ

Vehement anti-vaccine rocker Eric Clapton has put out what appears to be a musical rant against pandemic restrictions and vaccines.

https://youtu.be/dNt4NIQ7FTA

‘This Has Gotta Stop’: Eric Clapton Releases Apparent Anti-Vax Anthem
08-30-2021, 09:15 AM
Kinnikinnick

What the actual fuck?

https://ohiocapitaljournal.com/2021/...-cdc-warnings/

Ohio judge orders hospital to use Ivermectin for covid patient.

How is that even legal? Its not approved by the FDA for that use

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