To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[ex-powderbroker]

Ol' mate didn't make it. At least he was worm-free when he passed.

Texas anti-mask ‘freedom defender’ aged 30 dies of COVID-19

the outbreeding part of idiocracy sure rings true.

[summit]

Preprint of pre-Delta mortality in children and young people in the UK
https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-689684/
1 in 20K CYP died of COVID in their dataset. The vaccine death rate is <<1 in 1M. This tracks with other complications which are vastly more common in cases of COVID illness than from vaccination. This is before considering the apparent (see below) increased virulence of Delta.

The vaccine reduces risk of infection, transmission, illness, hospitalization, long term sequelae, and death from COVID and these beneficial reductions are much greater than the risk of the vaccine.

At face value this preprint study shows what I have been saying all through this thread: even in the lowest COVID risk group, the vaccine is still safer than the disease risk and the best bet for the individual as well as society.

Here are some other articles:

Largest Real-World Pfizer Safety Study to Date shows excellent safety and that complications rates in vaccinated group are lower than in unvaccinated who get COVID.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-...ne-safety.html
https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2110475

MMWR a classroom Delta outbreak with a 50% attack rate on elementary students from an unvaxxed infected teacher:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7035e2.htm

6mo post infection 1 in 6 COVID survivors have a new neuro/psych dx:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...084-5/fulltext

Delta appears to be more virulent (higher hospitalization risk):
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...475-8/fulltext

[liv2ski]

40% of the American voting population: "Hold my beer."

Buddy, we need to ski together, I think we would have a bunch of laughs, as we kind of think the same way on a few topics.

[Harry]

as a stoner fishy ski bum

i approve of this messages

Love your hat !


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[skaredshtles]

Buddy, we need to ski together, I think we would have a bunch of laughs, as we kind of think the same way on a few topics.

You're payin', Mr. Moneypants.

[riser4]

The Struggle to Vaccinate Springfield, Missouri


Two nurses in Missouri said that some patients are suspicious of retractable needles, which make a clicking sound after the shot is administered. The patients asked whether that was the sound of a microchip being implanted in their arms.

That's it. There's no hope. Sigh.

[liv2ski]

[jono]

That's it. There's no hope. Sigh.

IDK, are you sure you wouldn't make that joke? I'd totally ask that question if I heard a click. And 9/10 I'd say it in a flat enough tone to get an immediate explanation of how there aren't really chips in there. 6/10 I'd act like that was news to me cause that's easier than explaining sarcasm to stressed out vax workers. Not saying I'd feel good about it.

[KQ]

IDK, are you sure you wouldn't make that joke? I'd totally ask that question if I heard a click. And 9/10 I'd say it in a flat enough tone to get an immediate explanation of how there aren't really chips in there. 6/10 I'd act like that was news to me cause that's easier than explaining sarcasm to stressed out vax workers. Not saying I'd feel good about it.

Yeah, I wondered too if it was factitious.

[riser4]

IDK, are you sure you wouldn't make that joke? I'd totally ask that question if I heard a click. And 9/10 I'd say it in a flat enough tone to get an immediate explanation of how there aren't really chips in there. 6/10 I'd act like that was news to me cause that's easier than explaining sarcasm to stressed out vax workers. Not saying I'd feel good about it.

Yeah, I wondered too if it was factitious.

Ok. Yes, I could see myself saying that as a joke. In deadpan. Because I we're both smartasses. It was probably bad enough that I asked about cell service.
However. I assumed the chip folks above are serious. Because the news is not good these days regarding the Qtards. Mea culpa.

[Self Jupiter]

4D chess for sure

[Kinnikinnick]

Vax right wing media denier #10,000 dead as a doornail.

https://www.businessinsider.com/anti...m-covid-2021-8

Certainty purging a number of these right wing knuckleheads from the earth.


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[ex-powderbroker]

are we running out of these rw radio hosts yet?

[seano732]

Vax right wing media denier #10,000 dead as a doornail.

https://www.businessinsider.com/anti...m-covid-2021-8

Certainty purging a number of these right wing knuckleheads from the earth.


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Paging ScaredShitles with the “THATS a shame” meme…..

[XXX-er]

yeah intelectualy you say to your self " what exactly is wrong with ridding the world of crayon-eating conservatives ? "

but maybe the tree hugging/ wanting to make the world a better place/ lefty in all of us thinks we should save them ?

from themselves ?

[toast2266]

Slippery slope between that and saying that if you willingly huck yourself of a cliff and get injured while skiing you should stay home and not burden the hospital system.

They're not equivalent. But once you start refusing healthcare to people, shit gets weird really quick.

[Salvelinusconfluentus]

Slippery slope between that and saying that if you willingly huck yourself of a cliff and get injured while skiing you should stay home and not burden the hospital system.

They're not equivalent. But once you start refusing healthcare to people, shit gets weird really quick.

Ok. But if you have to ration health care because there is literally not enough equipment, staff, supplies or space how do you choose? First come first serve? Most likely to survive?

And I thought the Republicans were all about personal responsibility...

You huck yourself off a cliff and break your leg. Person next to you was hit by a car while legally crossing the street. One dose of pain meds left.

Who gets it?

[Salvelinusconfluentus]

That's why hiding all the microchips in Horse Dewormer was a stroke of genius.

Heh.

[bagtagley]

Who gets it?

The COVID patient

[MagnificentUnicorn]

We should never refuse care to anyone


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[riser4]

yeah intelectualy you say to your self " what exactly is wrong with ridding the world of crayon-eating conservatives ? "

but maybe the tree hugging/ wanting to make the world a better place/ lefty in all of us thinks we should save them ?

from themselves ?

I do actually think they should be saved.

[neufox47]

Octogenarian aunt and uncle who are immuno compromised with lupus and has mesothelioma, respectively have fully recovered. Aunt was sick for about 2 weeks, very sick but no hospital or O2. Uncle had a very mild cough. Both had 2 dose mRNA.


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[Salvelinusconfluentus]

We should never refuse care to anyone


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I agree, assuming the resources to provide care are available.

My struggle is who waits? Who goes without when we don't have enough for everyone??

[DougW]

yeah intelectualy you say to your self " what exactly is wrong with ridding the world of crayon-eating conservatives ? "

but maybe the tree hugging/ wanting to make the world a better place/ lefty in all of us thinks we should save them ?

from themselves ?

Certainly in the US response to Covid has been very politized which is never good. In Canada I think its more bipartisan whackadoodleness with a tendency to be more from the right wing minded. But the highest correlation on whether one is a populist or not. Conspiracy minded people who go on about Big Pharma can be from either side of the political divide.

[Harry]

Just learned today that my brother’s SIL tested positive on Friday. (this would be the SIL of my brother’s BIL who has Long Covid…). Unvaxxed, lives in rural Georgia, belongs to a Baptist church that handles snakes and speaks in tongues, 2nd grade teacher at a private school (I.e. white people only.) Extremely fat, has anger management issues, and is a complete know it all about every subject under the sun.

Reason she got tested ? On Friday as she was getting off a cruise ship in Florida they pointed a temperature gun at her and detected fever. They made her get tested and bingo. Vax was required to get on ship. I know she is unvaxxed so obviously used a fake card. Isn’t lying covered by the Ten Commandments ?

I could honestly care less if she lives or dies at this point.


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