Yeah but when a little cuban chick is happy and horny there's few things better! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by snowsprite
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Yeah but when a little cuban chick is happy and horny there's few things better! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by snowsprite
Actually the monthly magazine they send you when you join the NRA has a section where they list these types of stories and they generally have at least 6-10 of these stories every month. You know, in case you were looking for more. :biggrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by philippeR
I have to agree with this (the over-compensating part). Most of you guys live in the safest burbs in the country/world. What are you afraid of?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blashyrkh
Sex predators?
Most kids get snatched outside the home, better to teach them self defense and to scream and fight any strangers who try to abduct them. Get your woman into a self defense course and encourage her to grow some biceps.
Robbery?
It's just material things that can be replaced. Get a good homeowners/renters insurance. Backup your computer, and get a safe.
Any breed over 45 pounds will give a burglar pause.Quote:
Originally Posted by hutash
^^ Quoted for truth. If you have kids, participating in the training and care of a dog will enrich their lives in many more ways than target practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by powder11
Mc Posers story is more of an issue with people failing to act, than some hero with a handgun. If 1 or 2 people just bumrushed the guy, it would have given the wife a chance to flee. Instead they stood by, just looking.
What you want is a Mossberg 500 pump. Cut the barrel down to about 2inches past the magazine. 00 buckshot. (This may be illegal, look up shotgun barrel length requirements federal and state firsthand...but as short as possible) There is nothing better for home defense. Period. You simply can not miss, and hopefully you never have to fire. Avoid that .22 idea. The last thing you want is someone that's been shot 13 times with your .22 beating you to death before they call the ambulance. Do not use a high powered hand gun such as a .357 or .44 magnum. You've got family, and you've got walls in your house, a magnum pistol doesn't care too much about walls.
Loaded or unloaded? Depends. It will take you longer to get it loaded in the event of an emergency, but on the other hand nothing gets a thief running like the sound of a shotgun being filled with shells and ratcheted. With kids in the house the most important thing is that they understand what firearms are, what they do and what the consequences of their misuse are.
A child that's only seen a firearm on television may pick up and play with a handgun that he/she finds simply because they don't understand their purpose and the danger they pose. A child that's been raised with gun-safety in mind and understands how to use and respect a firearm is much less likely to hurt themselves or another playing around. It's a tough judgement call.
So I guess in my opinion: Cut down shotgun (don't leave the house with it, not entirely legal) up high away from a child's reach with ammo close by but also high up and secure. Children in the house should know: Where it is, that it is not to be touched and what the consequences of pointing a firearm at another human being are. Once again playing devil's advocate to myself here...if you yourself are new to firearms introducing one to your house may be a bad idea in general.
Also, check your local/state laws regarding the use of guns in home defense.
I live in Massachusetts, in this state we are under "Duty to Retreat" law. If someone breaks into my house, and they start raping my wife, it is my duty to retreat. I'm not married, but that's an example.
To harm a person that has broken into your home regardless of their actions or intent:
"The defendant had first avoided conflict and secondly, had taken reasonable steps to retreat and so demonstrated an intention not to fight before eventually using force."
More reasonable states have what's called "castle law" where you are allowed to stand your ground if being threatened in your own home, car or place of business. It'd be a good idea to find out where your state stands on this issue, as it'll make a difference should worse come to worse someday.
My thoughts anyway.
No. I just happened upon it. Why would I dig for these? Gun owner =! Gun Nut...Quote:
Originally Posted by philippeR
Maybe if you frenchmen acquired some firearms you wouldn't have to surrender or lose almost every time conflict erupts. ;)
Tracy, I agree, this was posted more out of my disgust over the inaction of the bystanders, rather than respect for the gun owner, but, without the gun owner, the outcome doesn't sound very positive.
Your scenarios are logical, but what you have to remember is that when someone enters your home, you don't have a "magic preview" button to see what their intentions are. Personally, I would rather kill the intruder and face the judgment of the law, than take my chances trying to determine what his plans are.
13, why would they need to find him? Sometimes a hero doesn't want recognition for doing the right thing.
If you decide to arm yourself in your car don't get caught speeding!
On a more serious note I feel as long as everyone in the house is taught and has learned to respect firearms there's no reason not to have a shotty for home defense. I wouldn't suggest a rifle or handgun for the same reason others have listed. You're much less likely to blow through a wall with some heavy birdshot than you are with a highpowered rifle/handgun round.
That said I'm a skeet shooter and occasional hunter so we have a bunch of shotguns locked up in the safe in our house but it's so far away from the bedroom that I'd have a hard time sneaking past the thieves to get to the guns. If you wanted to use it for home defense I'd get a small safe and keep it in the closet or just keep a trigger/action lock on it so that you could get to it quickly.
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Originally Posted by philippeR
This took me about 30 sec;)
"In 1997, he said there were about 440,000 violent crimes and 9,000 murders committed with guns. By contrast, there were over 2 million violent crimes prevented through the use of guns. The media, Lott said, focus on the former category because it produces an actual victim or a dead body. The latter usually produces no rapist or murderer or actual crime. He said the media’s emphasis on the bad things that happen with guns causes the public to think that guns are more of a problem than a solution. After the Atlanta day-trader attack in the summer, which was widely publicized by the media, Lott said there were three incidents in Atlanta within ten days where citizens used guns to stop similar attacks. "Those get very little attention," he pointed out."
Edit: This might be of interest to the OP:
"Another misleading claim is that 13 children a day die from guns. But these "children" can be up to 19 years of age. Nine of those 13 deaths a day involve 17,18, or 19 year-olds --"
http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A3207_0_2_0_C/