To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

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08-19-2021, 10:15 PM
rideit

KQ, this guy belongs in WW!

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ight-mandates/
08-19-2021, 10:17 PM
rideit

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Originally Posted by Mazderati

This guy literally let his politics and religion kill him. It's possible he is otherwise alive today. Mind-bending.

https://www.wyff4.com/article/greenv...d-19/37350500#

“Bless his heart”.
08-19-2021, 10:45 PM
bennymac

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...eacfe2be8e.jpg

Unvaxxed parents of 4 make dying wish that their kids get vaccinated. If only fuckfaces weren’t out there (and in here) spreading seeds of doubt in the public in order to score political/internet/ego points.
08-19-2021, 11:07 PM
Skidog

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Originally Posted by huckbucket

There's nothing to assess at this point. The performance to date is uninterpretable given the n. All hype until a controlled trial is completed. Can't be used with patients on vent. Mechanistically, it's also difficult to predict the potential of this approach given that exosomes as a drug delivery mechanism is essentially novel. Theory is that it will reduce CRS.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/...&draw=2&rank=3

Wait for the results from this study.

"I still contest the best approach is to not get COVID in the first place"

Yes, for many, many reasons. It's not even an argument really. Case in point, people are taking about the option to receive Regeneron's antibody cocktail (REGN-COV2) versus getting the vaccine. Not sure people appreciate that getting REGN-COV2 requires an infusion.

And isn't pretty "experimental" as well? I mean it's all so weird.

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08-19-2021, 11:09 PM
Ted Striker

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Originally Posted by Bronco

This happened yesterday afternoon in the Seattle suburb of Everett. Can someone enlighten me as to why they are protesting at at hospital?

https://twitter.com/ogvanniphoto/sta...744260/photo/1

Same time, same story in front of St Joe's up in Bellingham. As for the why, Facebook.
08-19-2021, 11:13 PM
Skidog

Again, back with my simple "samples".
Spent week with family and kids at the beach in NJ. Only one non vaxxed, my 9 yr old. Did the boardwalk thing each night, out to dinner one night, beach daily. Rides, interaction with other kids (we dont know met on beach) that were for sure under 12. Whole week no masks (I wore mine in stores as a courtesy mostly). Guess we will see if the little guy gets sick.

ETA: this is 0 cases in my household of 4 since patient zero.

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08-19-2021, 11:15 PM
Adolf Allerbush

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

Same time, same story in front of St Joe's up in Bellingham. As for the why, Facebook.

Zuc interviewed on CBS or NBC, can't remember which, but was asked if he knew the number of times misinformation/disinformation was disseminated to the masses via his platform and he said they didn't have that number. Isn't that sort of what they do, crank the numbers on how many clicks shit gets and what people gravitate to? To act like they don't have it or that it's impossible to figure out is bullshit. anyhow, yeah, FB is really doing great stuff for society.
08-19-2021, 11:24 PM
Ted Striker

Just like the president of American Airlines probably doesn't know off the top of his head how many pounds of fuel are burned by the A321 between JFK and LAX, but every airbus pilot and dispatcher clearly does.

That plausible deniability sure comes in handy.
08-19-2021, 11:27 PM
rideit

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

. anyhow, yeah, FB is really doing great stuff for society.

I, for one, can surely sleep better knowing that my friend Tracy used homegrown Zucchini when she tried to make gluten/wheat free pizza crust.
08-20-2021, 12:12 AM
Adolf Allerbush

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

Just like the president of American Airlines probably doesn't know off the top of his head how many pounds of fuel are burned by the A321 between JFK and LAX, but every airbus pilot and dispatcher clearly does.

That plausible deniability sure comes in handy.

Ha! I don't think it was the actual number, but more of a "do you know the number" and his answer was that it was unknowable. Seems like bullshit.
08-20-2021, 06:13 AM
huckbucket

Wondering what sort of drugs produce this sort of human. Asking for a friend.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video...WoS.mp4?tag=12
08-20-2021, 06:29 AM
funkendrenchman

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Originally Posted by Skidog

Again, back with my simple "samples".
Spent week with family and kids at the beach in NJ. Only one non vaxxed, my 9 yr old. Did the boardwalk thing each night, out to dinner one night, beach daily. Rides, interaction with other kids (we dont know met on beach) that were for sure under 12. Whole week no masks (I wore mine in stores as a courtesy mostly). Guess we will see if the little guy gets sick.

ETA: this is 0 cases in my household of 4 since patient zero.

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This should be a published study. Such good data.
08-20-2021, 06:45 AM
MagnificentUnicorn

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Originally Posted by rideit

KQ, this guy belongs in WW!

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...ight-mandates/

Klickitat county is likely worse than WW when it comes to idiot redneck freedumbz

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08-20-2021, 06:53 AM
Vt-Freeheel

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Zuc interviewed on CBS or NBC, can't remember which, but was asked if he knew the number of times misinformation/disinformation was disseminated to the masses via his platform and he said they didn't have that number. Isn't that sort of what they do, crank the numbers on how many clicks shit gets and what people gravitate to? To act like they don't have it or that it's impossible to figure out is bullshit. anyhow, yeah, FB is really doing great stuff for society.

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Originally Posted by Ted Striker

Just like the president of American Airlines probably doesn't know off the top of his head how many pounds of fuel are burned by the A321 between JFK and LAX, but every airbus pilot and dispatcher clearly does.

That plausible deniability sure comes in handy.

You can be sure Zucz' minions update him on the $$$ made from ads on these types of posts.
08-20-2021, 07:35 AM
Danno

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Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush

Ha! I don't think it was the actual number, but more of a "do you know the number" and his answer was that it was unknowable. Seems like bullshit.

It's bullshit but it's not. How do you quantify disinformation/misinformation? Some posts are easy, sure, but some aren't. And some you may say are and someone else might say are not. It's not a simple objective what does 2+2 equal question. So yeah, even with all their number crunching, it is an unknowable number. Which is not the same as saying that FB has no idea what it's doing or has no role here, I am not defending Zuck at all.
08-20-2021, 07:53 AM
wooley12

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Originally Posted by huckbucket

Wondering what sort of drugs produce this sort of human. Asking for a friend.

https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video...WoS.mp4?tag=12

Catecholamines. 20+ years of hearing and seeing the propaganda preaching hate and lies 24/7. Studies have been done on how it alters the brain. I've studied it. You're welcome.
08-20-2021, 08:04 AM
Benny Profane

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Originally Posted by Dexter Rutecki

JFC, my neighborhood (based on zip code data) is 93% vaxed. At my daughter's school yesterday they did 702 covid tests and got 702 negatives (I'm guessing 99%+ vaxed). I don't understand what the fuck is wrong with the rest of the country.

You have no black or Hispanic people in the neighborhood, obviously.

26% of young blacks in NYC are vaccinated. Not the white trash that CNN likes to rail against, but, core Biden voters.
08-20-2021, 08:07 AM
Benny Profane

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Originally Posted by rideit

Are any of you decent cartoonists? I have an idea for a New Yorker style cartoon with St Peter at the pearly gates, asking for proof of vax, and (sort of) apologetically turning the morons away…

I've seen that somewhere.
08-20-2021, 08:07 AM
jono

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Originally Posted by Danno

It's bullshit but it's not. How do you quantify disinformation/misinformation? Some posts are easy, sure, but some aren't. And some you may say are and someone else might say are not. It's not a simple objective what does 2+2 equal question. So yeah, even with all their number crunching, it is an unknowable number. Which is not the same as saying that FB has no idea what it's doing or has no role here, I am not defending Zuck at all.

Those are the semantics Zuck relied on, but he knows perfectly well that unknowable numbers like these can be bracketed to a range. That's his bread and butter. They've definitely identified the maximum and minimum in some way (probably many ways) and he's been briefed. Maybe not in the last two hours, so I'm sure he can hide behind that, too.
08-20-2021, 08:43 AM
Ted Striker

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Originally Posted by jono

Maybe not in the last two hours, so I'm sure he can hide behind that, too.

With all that money, I would've thought he had a better battery.

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08-20-2021, 08:45 AM
riser4

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Originally Posted by jono

Those are the semantics Zuck relied on, but he knows perfectly well that unknowable numbers like these can be bracketed to a range. That's his bread and butter. They've definitely identified the maximum and minimum in some way (probably many ways) and he's been briefed. Maybe not in the last two hours, so I'm sure he can hide behind that, too.

And he has two main reasons for being soft on disinformation. The money. It fits with his beliefs and or desired outcomes.
08-20-2021, 08:53 AM
Danno

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Originally Posted by jono

Those are the semantics Zuck relied on, but he knows perfectly well that unknowable numbers like these can be bracketed to a range. That's his bread and butter. They've definitely identified the maximum and minimum in some way (probably many ways) and he's been briefed. Maybe not in the last two hours, so I'm sure he can hide behind that, too.

Oh, I totally agree with you. He's not innocent. But if he were under oath, he wouldn't be committing perjury.
08-20-2021, 08:54 AM
riser4

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Originally Posted by Danno

Oh, I totally agree with you. He's not innocent. But if he were under oath, he wouldn't be committing perjury.

Correct. That slimy bastard.
08-20-2021, 09:04 AM
KQ

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Originally Posted by MagnificentUnicorn

Klickitat county is likely worse than WW when it comes to idiot redneck freedumbz

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Yanno.... we've got a share of citizens against mandates and vaccines but by and large the powers that be here are all for following and enforcing the Govenor's orders. Unlike Tri-Cities our city council, mayor and county health have been onboard and done everything they can to help the community and businesses find ways to get through this. I really don't get that NPR snippet that MTM posted in the Scenic Washington thread. I follow the local news closely and have not read anything like that. Tri-cities and Umatilla yes but not here. The universities and wine industry keeps W2 County pretty solid purple so we are more balanced than some in EWA.
08-20-2021, 09:05 AM
jono

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Originally Posted by Danno

Oh, I totally agree with you. He's not innocent. But if he were under oath, he wouldn't be committing perjury.

And if the person asking had him under oath they should know to add the nuance since he's definitely not going to do it. At this point any journalist who doesn't expect him to answer like a hostile witness has no right to be interviewing him.

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