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11-02-2006, 12:05 AM
phUnk

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Originally Posted by be

The catch is that they make their money on SAC via a mark up on the shipping. They are barely covering their cost and making some minor margin on the product at that steep of a discount, so they need to make money somewhere and that's on shipping. The stuff you are balking at paying shipping for is still selling out, so why would they bother discounting?

I didn't read this entire thread, because I was busy pimping out the IM Alerts, which are FAF (Fast As Fuck) now, but I can tell you that you are incorrect.

SAC is about moving a lot of one item at a time. Look at the shipping for all the items in a week and you can see that they are, on average, pretty spot on considering warehouse picking, the packing material, the receipt, the label and what we pay the shipping companies.

Also, to the OP, perhaps a SAC suggestion thread would do better on the SAC forums? You can also request exactly what item you'd like to appear on SAC next, because that always gives us a good laugh. :the_finge;)
11-02-2006, 12:10 AM
rideit

Hunh, I done didn't know there was a SAC forum. I'll have to whine over there. (but I bet more people are viewing it here!!) Are you coming to Fruita, Phunk?
11-02-2006, 12:57 AM
Cirquerider

This issue has been discussed, debated and has become cliche on the sac forums, gearaddict.com and a half dozen sites all centered around SAC. Its kinkd of like the ultimate SAC jong question, so, yeah; post it there. We never get tired of hearing it. SAC Sheriff, RJ Redundant and others have all explained why its not going to happen. I stil don't know what PhUnk's alias is over there, or at least I haven't paid attention.
11-02-2006, 01:01 AM
rideit

Well, once again, I am sure more people have viewed it here. There is power in numbers. I do think a lot of valuable opinions have been expressed in this thread regarding the effect of shipping cost on purchase frequency, and I would assert that anyone in marketing would find that valuable, no matter what the source of the input. I see many, many thousands in lost sales based on the 10% who comment on this as compared to the 90% who feel the same, and don't post....and that is truly talking turkey. Just ask your accountant!
11-02-2006, 01:11 AM
bossass

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Originally Posted by BLOOD SWEAT STEEL

x2. WTF?

Shipping costs what it costs, and is independent of the cost of the item being shipped. SAC shipping rates are spot on, not jacked up in any way. Regardless of where you buy item "X," you're going to pay either 1: sales tax, or 2: shipping. Go where the price is best and the shipping price is within reason. I commend BC for not profit shipping like a good percentage of online retailers do.

x3. This should be called the Sandy Vagina thread. SAC shipping is spot on as the weas said. The priority option is usually cheaper for one item, if it's small. The thing I'm impressed with for SAC shipping is for ordering multiple of the same item, the shipping cost only goes up a small percentage. So, when I ordered the bottle opener Reef sandals for my girl, my brother and father for christmas, the shipping went from like $5 for one pair, to $7 for three. Very reasonable. If you need to, buy more than one and sell for a very small profit to cover your shipping. Otherwise quit bitching, cause these guys are hooking you the fuck up. The holding idea would be great in a world where I didn't have to work and heli skied all winter. But in the real world, these guys are moving thousands of products a day for uber cheap and I can only imagine what kind of logistic nightmare combining shipping on different items would be.
11-02-2006, 01:23 AM
rideit

Hmm. I have only ordered one item from SAC, and the shipping was $17.00 for one pair of sunglasses...that would have cost $2.50 to ship from USPS. The difference between $17.00 and $2.50 is....profound. And I generally don't pay retail, so the 'huge hookup' was pretty close to pro-form. I appreciate immensely what they do...trust me. But any system can be improved, to the benefit of both consumer and supplier. And that is a 'sandy vagina' issue that affects both parties...a little lube could make the 'act' more desireable for both. Mutual satisfaction is a recipe for success!
11-02-2006, 01:38 AM
bossass

Are you in ID or CAN?

I don't know why they hate you, but my USPS shipping on a $28 nixon watch recently was $5.50 priority (they only ship priority, which is $4.10 at the cheapest). Very reasonable. That's consistant with eveything else (and there's been a lot) I've ordered. Krypton boots, $8.28 UPS ground. Arbor Snowboard, $9.28 UPS ground. AK Rocket Lab Skis, $13.36 UPS ground. That's Utah to Portland, OR.

Shit, I need to hold back.
11-02-2006, 01:40 AM
rideit

Wow, you are experiencing a far different shipping quote structure than I have experienced, I (obviously) am confused as to why. Consider yourself fortunate!
11-02-2006, 02:32 AM
bossass

Or damned.;)
11-02-2006, 06:33 AM
Rasputin

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Originally Posted by bossass

Are you in ID or CAN?

I don't know why they hate you, but my USPS shipping on a $28 nixon watch recently was $5.50 priority (they only ship priority, which is $4.10 at the cheapest). Very reasonable. That's consistant with eveything else (and there's been a lot) I've ordered. Krypton boots, $8.28 UPS ground. Arbor Snowboard, $9.28 UPS ground. AK Rocket Lab Skis, $13.36 UPS ground. That's Utah to Portland, OR.

Shit, I need to hold back.

Hmmm....you got got by the Nixon watch too huh? Pretty sweet methinks.
11-02-2006, 10:09 AM
freshie247

I'm a big fan of the SAC/BC gang.I've only bought expensive items from BC,& the shipping has been great.I just hate it when I buy stuff online that I can't try on 1st & it doesn't fit,it costs me money to send it back.

This is obviously my problem & has nothing to do with them!
11-02-2006, 10:42 AM
kidwoo

rideit: that must be an idaho thing. The few items I've gotten have been cheap as hell to ship via USPS. Set up a mailbox in jackson or something?
11-02-2006, 11:25 AM
MarsB

Very reasonable rates shipping to WV. I am not complaining.

Going back to check SAC now...
11-02-2006, 11:40 AM
powstash

Maggots - we are listening

I am here to post in this thread. A few words from "the man" when I tossed him this link -

Totally kick ass....We have not considered the Amazon prime concept and I think it is damn good.

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Originally Posted by rideit

Yes, that's true...and it is true that shipping costs often go down the more you ship. That is what we are adressing here.

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Originally Posted by Cirquerider

This issue has been discussed, debated and has become cliche....SAC Sheriff, RJ Redundant and others have all explained why its not going to happen. I stil don't know what PhUnk's alias is over there, or at least I haven't paid attention.

I'm not trumping those powerful doods but this thread may have started to chip away at the issue. phUnk is omnipresent. He needs no alias.

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Originally Posted by rideit

Well, once again, I am sure more people have viewed it here. There is power in numbers. I do think a lot of valuable opinions have been expressed in this thread regarding the effect of shipping cost on purchase frequency, and I would assert that anyone in marketing would find that valuable, no matter what the source of the input. I see many, many thousands in lost sales based on the 10% who comment on this as compared to the 90% who feel the same, and don't post....and that is truly talking turkey. Just ask your accountant!

Rideit for President! Seriously great post. A lot of value has come of this thread. The wheels are turning in SAC land.

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Originally Posted by kidwoo

rideit: that must be an idaho thing. The few items I've gotten have been cheap as hell to ship via USPS. Set up a mailbox in jackson or something?

Idaho is wierd. We don't like them guys to the North :fm: Seriously, I'm not sure what's up with the Idaho thing.

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Originally Posted by Originally Posted by be

The catch is that they make their money on SAC via a mark up on the shipping. They are barely covering their cost and making some minor margin on the product at that steep of a discount, so they need to make money somewhere and that's on shipping. The stuff you are balking at paying shipping for is still selling out, so why would they bother discounting?

Why would we bother? We hadn't considered it (the Amazon Prime idea) for SAC until this thread. We think this is a kick ass idea. I'm not going to sugar coat it, there is a bit,(small bit) of revenue in the shipping. Boxes, shipping equipment, etc aren't free when you're shipping thousands of boxes each day. BUT, the bottom line is that we sell gear and make money on said gear. With SAC we try to bring it the cheapest we can and still pay the minions and the man.

This message board is full of the "core" of our audience and although we do value the faithful on the SAC forum this group here is held in high regard.

SO, keep the ideas coming, keep brainstorming them. We're humble enough to admit that we haven't got the market cornered when it comes to all the brilliant ideas.
11-02-2006, 11:46 AM
rideit

Do you guys need a marketing consultant, based out of Teton Valley?
I could do a solid job, in between posting....;)
11-02-2006, 12:11 PM
powstash

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Originally Posted by rideit

Do you guys need a marketing consultant, based out of Teton Valley?
I could do a solid job, in between posting....;)

If we hired you what would I do in between posting? :p
11-02-2006, 12:14 PM
rideit

I would imagine collecting sac orders in 1,000 little shopping carts, and labeling them with user-names...
11-02-2006, 12:35 PM
mntlion

and what about USPS NOT UPS to canuks????
11-02-2006, 01:02 PM
bossass

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Originally Posted by mntlion

and what about USPS NOT UPS to canuks????

Jeez, why don't they throw in cheap, good weed and universal health care while they're at it.:rolleyes2
11-02-2006, 01:05 PM
Tippster

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Originally Posted by bossass

Jeez, why don't they throw in cheap, good weed and universal health care while they're at it.:rolleyes2

JEOMK!!!!!
11-02-2006, 01:08 PM
rideit

Just Ejaculated On My Keyboard?
11-02-2006, 01:10 PM
cj001f

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Originally Posted by rideit

Just Ejaculated On My Keyboard?

yeah it's a regular occurrence for tipp
11-02-2006, 01:12 PM
rideit

Jeez...that explains why my return key don't work so good. He should get his own keyboard!
11-02-2006, 01:14 PM
cj001f

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Originally Posted by rideit

Jeez...that explains why my return key don't work so good. He should get his own keyboard!

the plumbing required for that range is scary
11-02-2006, 01:17 PM
rideit

Disciple of Peter North?
11-02-2006, 01:19 PM
leroy jenkins

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Originally Posted by cj001f

<brain just exploded>

They are giving you more, different, shit for cheap and you aren't interested? WTF?

Yea, it doesn't really make that much sense to me either, but I just know I used to check it more when I knew what time things were reloading.
11-02-2006, 01:21 PM
Tippster

I get excited by weed and healthcare. What's it to you?
11-02-2006, 06:45 PM
gregm

speaking of sac, i just added an rss feed to my google homepage, but it doesn't work. it only shows the old items, or isn't updating? anyway, the current item doesn't show.

:confused: :confused: :confused:
11-02-2006, 08:51 PM
Toby

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Originally Posted by mntlion

and what about USPS NOT UPS to canuks????

And Australians. Each shipment costs me ~$40-$50, regardless of the size, weight or cost of the item.
11-02-2006, 09:16 PM
RIDEr

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Originally Posted by gregm

speaking of sac, i just added an rss feed to my google homepage, but it doesn't work. it only shows the old items, or isn't updating? anyway, the current item doesn't show.

:confused: :confused: :confused:

Why don't you download the SAC new item application?

Fuel your addiction

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