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Suck it up and stay fat and happy. It helps in races, gravity is on your side!
Weight v. height comparisons are not very helpful. Body type/metabolism factor in quite a bit. I'm 5'9" and range from 135-145.Quote:
Originally Posted by yooper
I'm 5'9" and range 150-156 (depending on the time of day) That is all...
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there is something very disturbing about this dicussion coupled with the shorts this guy's wearing...:frown:
God, that looks like a lower back blowup waiting to happen! I'd never try that exercise.Quote:
Originally Posted by BallsDeep
my back hurts just looking at it - and I'm not prone to back pain!Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
-steve
Well, it could be risky, but as long as you start with a light weight and concentrate on your form you should be fine. Performed properly, good mornings can really help build up your lowerback/hamstrings/core, and actually prevent back injuries.Quote:
God, that looks like a lower back blowup waiting to happen! I'd never try that exercise.
Almost 3 years ago, I weighed in at 253 ish. I worked my ass off for about 7 months, got myself down to below what i felt was healthy and was in the low 180s. I had trouble leveling off at a healthy weight, Ideally I should be around 194. I'm 6'2".
Leveling off was very difficult, I had been on such a strict diet, I continued to fluctuate, I would go from 184-197 and back and fourth for a long time. Right now, I'm pretty steady at my current weight of 208-11, but I don't feel healty. I need to get Unlazy and rejoin the gym to get rid of the 15lbs I want gone before ski season.
Losing weight most definately helps make you a better skier. If you are already a solid skier, it just makes getting around soooo much easier.
thanks! but I've got a long way to go yet.. I'm still 320 lbs, you know..Quote:
Originally Posted by bumpskier
went to a rock gym yesterday (my first time!) and boy - that was rough. I tried a 5.8 with a ceiling and it just about killed me. Can't wait to go back!
You think low 180s is unhealthy for someone who's 6'2"? 180 lbs puts you at a BMI of 23.1, which is actually toward the high end of the recommended range of 18.5-25. Yeah, I know BMI isn't perfect, but I have a hard time believing 180 lbs is unhealthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by INDY GS
I didn't say it was unhealthy, I said I FELT unhealthy. The last time I had a body composition analysis done, I weighed in at 191, had a BMI of 24.5 and body fat of 10.8% Which by my nutritionists statements is very healthy for an adult male in his late 20s early 30s. She said under 9% Body Fat she would consider to be too low.
And remember i live in Indiana, one of, if not the leader in obeasity rates.
Is it just me or does this guy have an erection?Quote:
Originally Posted by SnowTigress
I'm about 6'3, 220. I don't look real overweight, but I've always been too pudgy for my liking. I can't ever seem to eat right, maybe I should see a nutritionist to get me on the right track.
I weighed about 218, 511 after ski season. Got down to 190 this summer by riding around 200 miles a week.
Been lifting and doing plyos for winter last three weeks and put back about 15 lbs in muscle.
Having the weight and strength makes for faster and more powerfull skiing.
Impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by skideeppow
Isn't that why they call it good morning?Quote:
Originally Posted by fridge
Earlier in the summer I weighed almost 170 and my body fat was up to 14%. At 5'6" that was too heavy. I had quit doing cardio on a regular basis and just stuck to weight lifting. I was still fitting into 30X30 pants, but a belt wasn't necessary anymore. I decided to stop eating chips and cereal cold turkey and start doing cardio on a regular basis again. I thought it woud be difficult, but actually it was quite easy.
Now I weight between 157 and 160. I easily fit into my pants again and a belt is once again necessary for a couple of pair. Instead of chips for lunch it's either cottage cheese or a salad and instead of cereal for breakfast it's 2 eggs and 2 strips of bacon. I'm actually about the weight I want to be regardless of what the BMI says. With the way I look and feel now I'd bet my body fat has dropped a couple of points.
ok i am lying, there miight be some fat in there, bit not much.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
The tribute of your success is obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grange
+ 10.
Define "can't seem to eat right". Like you dont know what you should be eating to acheive your goals or you just don't have the motivation to actually eat right?Quote:
Originally Posted by fridge
it makes me laugh the perception of what is considered healthy. i've been everywhere from 6'2" 195lbs to 266lbs in the last four years. the only unhealthy levels were under 200lbs and over 260lbs. my BMI has always been considered obese. just as any athlete over 200lbs would be considered. Ali in his day would have been considered obese by the BMI scale.
And the mighter than thou attitude that people get when they talk about other's diets is absurd. unless you're a nutritionist (who knows what questions to ask first) then what qualifies you to give advice?
be the weight that makes you feel the best........if you're too heavy then you already know it, if you're healthy then you already know it. track your changes in weight in the mirror rather than on a scale.
my 2c,
-aaron
I am 5'8 (almost 5'9!) and weigh between 155-160 and can ski those just fine....and I actually gain a bit of weight every winter b/c I bike less and drink more:biggrin: I usually slim down again the spring/summer/fall from all the riding....Quote:
Originally Posted by fat yeti
I was 220 for years and got down to 199 about 5-6 years ago. A desk job later and I was up to 240. I've since come back down to around 225-230 and have noticed huge improvements in my skiing with just that little bit of loss. Mainly, I'm a lot more nimble which is a huge asset when playing around in rocky techy sections. When you're overweight, your body works against you. Balance is a lot harder to come by, and all that mass doesn't change directions as easily.
I gotta say that looks like a shitty way to do good mornings. I do them with the weight out in front of you, back straight, knees slightly bent. Kills in the mornings, seems much safer on the back and you can start out with 45's+....Quote:
Originally Posted by BallsDeep
oh, and hold your hands one over, one under, and swap them each time. Prevents you from trying to use your arms and isolates the hams....
When I used to swim, I was about 175, at 6'3". I quit swimming and started working at a brewery. Needless to say, all that hefeweizen put me up to 220. Then after about 5 yrs of hellish work I weighed 260!! Needless to say I tore my mensicus. I blame the weight. Anyway, so I changed my diet and dropped 40 pounds in a yr. Definetly a difference on the skis, your joints just dont hold up as well when your overweight.
I put on a little since the kids came and I moved, but have been hitting the gym hard the last 2 months. I haver a big frame, so I expect to add alot of muscle, lots of squat etc.., and not drop too much more weight.
There I did it, confession of a slightly overweight man. I feel better now.
175 at 6'3" and you have a big frame? Reminds me of John Travolta. He was thin as a rail during his Saturday Night Fever days and now he's kind of fat.
lol, exactly. Chest hair and all.
I was swimming about 15k a day and living off 5 bucks a day. That will do it. My doctor said my muscles were canabalizing themselves. Wish I was better educated in nutrition when i was an athlete. Its key.
@197 and 5'8", I'm a fat ass... I know it.
I just hate jogging, don't want to spend the money on the gym, and lift every other day. I get away with it for the most part, as I do a crapload of core stuff, but still have a suv tire as a spare.
Both. I need some sort of plan to follow that I know will work, but I also have no willpower.Quote:
Originally Posted by altagirl
I'm also very good at coming up with excuses for not working out. I work from 7-3:30, then coach football from 4-6:30, then normally end up out for beer and wings which doesn't leave me much time for anything else other than getting fatter.
You know the solution: workout before you go to work. Yeah, it sucks, but working out in the morning is actually the best way to avoid making excuses.Quote:
Originally Posted by fridge
Put it this way:
Every pro skier I know, or for that matter every skier I know that I consider to be execellent is ripped. Not much body fat and limber, lean muscles.
The higher your power to weight ratio, the better skier you are going to be. Excess fat works against you, no two ways about that.
Different topic, but gets me everytime:
Anyone else have a friend that is the fucking Lance Armstrong of hiking and will be waiting for me on the top smoking a rollie/ marb reb/ ect? I shake my head every time.
I know "that guy". F'ing a-hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by pointedem
FWIW (not a whole lot), I gained about 10 lbs. last summer during one of the most egregiously sedentary periods of my life. My skiing paid for it in the form of a dramatic loss of power and stamina. Whereas before I would be able to power out of the back seat upon landing a jump, last year I wasn't able to recover. :nonono2: :nonono2: :nonono2:
Not this year. Not only does it plain suck, it's downright dangerous on the ACLs.
Yep. You get used to getting up and working out in the morning and feel better once you get past that initial shock. I put my alarm on my phone on for 5am and keep it on the other side of the house so I have to get out of bed and move my butt to go turn it off. Have your clothes laid out so you can get dressed in the dark and GO.Quote:
Originally Posted by The AD
Also key: Go to bed and picture yourself jumping out of bed in the morning and hitting the gym. If you fall asleep thinking "yeah right", I know I'm just going to hit snooze, you will.
Don't get me wrong, going to a nutritionist is a great idea. But you probably already know that beer and wings every night aren't helping you any, and that you need to exercise regularly, and eating something with protein after your workout will help too.
Having a precise plan is great if you're into it. But chances are, you're using that and wanting to meet with a nutritionist as your excuse to not start doing anything. And a lot of people get hung up on not wanting to or being able to stick to a strict plan. But you don't really NEED either one to make some positive changes and get started.
(and apparently I'm the internet nutritionist that gonehuckin hates.)
BMI is meaningless for people with high muscle density.
Basically it breaks down like this, you can either eat whatever you want and ski dynafits or watch your caloric intake and ski freerides.
I know this happens to me as well...I just attribute it to water loss because I usually just gain it back when I get home.Quote:
Originally Posted by altagirl
Yeah. I've never weighed myself after skiing, but I know I lose a couple pounds after just an hour or so at the gym, so that makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by FreshPow
Odd sidebar, but we went to Moab for 3 days, I ate only about half the calories I burned riding and when we got home I had gained 4 lbs. Which I lost again the next day, so I guess it was my body retaining water from the salty foods I'm inclined to eat while I'm exercising so much.
Anyway, I can see losing 5-10lbs of water weight. I just read that and went... how in the hell do you lose 10lbs a week? (I was thinking more... linear) But if you're gaining a lot of it right back once you replenish yourself after the activity, it's not like you'd have lost 200lbs by the end of the season.
The easiest change to make in your diet, is to go on an all water diet for fluids. No soda, redbull, whatever. You drink most of your junk calories. I lost serious weight once just doing that.
This only works if your current diet includes lots of soda, redbull, whatever. If you are have 1 12 ounce can a day and cut that out you will not see major change. :smile:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cono Este
yeah, no way he's losing 10lbs of fat a week. 3lbs of fat/week is a seriously aggressive fat-loss goal...Quote:
Originally Posted by altagirl
Damn, lots of good info here. I am about 6'4 and around 220... Id love to get down to 200, but I too am not motivated. I dont think I eat terrible, but I do slather my salads with ranch... :redface: And of course when Im not in the field, and Im sitting in front of my idiot box at work, I just tend to eat eat eat... UGH!Quote:
Originally Posted by fridge
The morning workout has crossed my mind before, and it sounds like some of you have had success with it. Maybe this is the motivation I need! Now I need to figure out how to get to bed before midnight or 1AM... :nonono2:
Beer, juice, V8, pisco, whatever.:) If all you have is one soda a day, then nothing but water, not even beer, then I am already impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by climb2ski
Wow, sounds like quite a few mags fight the battle with the spare tire. I certainly am. I've lost about 10 lbs since March (I know, not much at all, but I kept going up and down for quite awhile). I still have about another 10 to go, but I've plateaued (?) at 122/123 for the last month, and can't seem to get it under 120. (I'm 5'3 and need to be between 110 and 115- I'm not a petite girl and don't expect to become one, but I'm pretty short so 112ish seems pretty reasonable). I mountain bike 3-4 times a week, was running until my PT put the kibosh on it for my knee rehab. The last couple weeks have been pretty busy and I was sick so the riding has stopped, but I'm planning on starting up again very soon (excuses, excuses). I've made some diet changes but nothing too major. I've never drank soda/redbull, etc, only water with the occasional OJ (and of course beer, but I've cut that quite a bit). I need to slash my portion sizes by about half... I know I need to do it, but damn I'm such a good cook that it's hard. :p
Good luck all.