College

**tenB** · 10-06-2006, 12:05 PM

Glade,

The only school on your list close to any decent skiing is the U of Washington.

I graduated from Cornell, and while its a great university with a lot to offer, the nearby skiing sucks! If you're going to live in the west after college, University of Washington would be a good choice. If you're going to live in the east, Cornell or Columbia would be much better choices.

Good Luck!

**lemon boy** · 10-06-2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by tenB

The only school on your list close to any decent skiing is the U of Washington.

Dude, try not to listen to the geography dropouts jesus.

BTW- per tips list, UW-S is #20

**Dromond** · 10-06-2006, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by soul_skier

UVM, i think I told you why when we met, kick ass skiing, women, drinking, boating and a decent education to boot.

... and unfortunately one of the highest out-of-state tuitions of any state school.

**StoneCold** · 10-06-2006, 12:23 PM

Go to the best college you get into, it looks like Brown or Berkley in your case.

There is plenty of time to ski during breaks, and more importantly, plenty of time to ski after you graduate.

Study, party, ski when you can. When you finish college and your obligations to the university and family are met, you will be able to pack up your shit and move to whatever ski town you want, with a clear conscience. THAT is the best feeling in the world.

**mc_roon** · 10-06-2006, 12:57 PM

go to Berkley. You can get a great education, the social life is insane, and Tahoe isnt far at all. I often pick up friends from Berkley on my way to Tahoe all the time - its about 2.5hrs to the parking lot @ Squaw from University Ave.

**mr_gyptian** · 10-06-2006, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by Tippster

It's also considered one of the top Five Universities in the World.

yeah, like you should base your decision on something like that.

**Dromond** · 10-06-2006, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by mc_roon

go to Berkley. You can get a great education, the social life is insane, and Tahoe isnt far at all. I often pick up friends from Berkley on my way to Tahoe all the time - its about 2.5hrs to the parking lot @ Squaw from University Ave.

Yeahhhhh that sounds pretty good!

**Peewee** · 10-06-2006, 01:34 PM

Go to which ever college will give you the most financial assistance. Beginning your professional career in debt up to your eyeballs with student loans is not something that you want. I could have gone to a more prestigious university (4.0 GPA, 30 ACT, valedictorian), but I chose to stay in state and go to the University of Wyoming instead, because I get tons of financial assistance for my academics. I will leave college with more money than I started with, and as a result I will have the money to attend grad school without burrying myself in debt. That, to me, is much more important than dumping my money at a school that is "better" because it has more prestige, even though you graduate with the exact same degree and get hired by the exact same businesses.

**Missing Sock** · 10-06-2006, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Peewee

Go to which ever college will give you the most financial assistance. Beginning your professional career in debt up to your eyeballs with student loans is not something that you want. I could have gone to a more prestigious university (4.0 GPA, 30 ACT, valedictorian), but I chose to stay in state and go to the University of Wyoming instead, because I get tons of financial assistance for my academics. I will leave college with more money than I started with, and as a result I will have the money to attend grad school without burrying myself in debt. That, to me, is much more important than dumping my money at a school that is "better" because it has more prestige, even though you graduate with the exact same degree and get hired by the exact same businesses.

Something you should check out while looking at schools is the career services center. Comparing the type of companies recruiting on campus will give you a better idea of how the school is perceived.

No offense to the above but I don't think going to the cheapest school is always the best idea. besides the type of people recruiting at Cal will be much different that U of Wyoming. Not taking anything away but the hardest part when finding a job is getting access and thats what schools with better reputations provide.

**Dromond** · 10-06-2006, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Missing Sock

Something you should check out while looking at schools is the career services center. Comparing the type of companies recruiting on campus will give you a better idea of how the school is perceived.

No offense to the above but I don't think going to the cheapest school is always the best idea. besides the type of people recruiting at Cal will be much different that U of Wyoming. Not taking anything away but the hardest part when finding a job is getting access and thats what schools with better reputations provide.

It also depends on who you go to school with, how well you know your professors and who they know. I got my start in an unbelievably competetive field because of someone who I went to school with and who graduated 2 years before me. The same goes for internships. Never underestimate the power of knowing people.

**jdl** · 10-06-2006, 04:18 PM

UC Davis-- not ranked as high as Cal or some of the other schools on your list, but 1:45 from Squaw or about 1:20 from Sugarbowl. They are on the quarter system, so you can easily have you winter class on Tues and Thurs. Or go to summer quarter and take winter quarter off to ski everyday.

**comish** · 10-06-2006, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Showtime06

What about some of the NESCAC schools... bowdoin, williams, colby, middlebury, amherst... those are all great schools with skiing near by and very very good environmental science programs... def worth a look

I would 2nd this. Lots of great schoos with really solid educations and students that are super into the outdoors. Skiing is < 1hr away from many of them as well.

**Dside11-11** · 10-06-2006, 11:12 PM

Dude- go to UVM or Skiattle, maybe Berkeley. Not skiing for four years, or skiing Greek Peak (Cornell) or the like will drive you fucking insane while you watch the rest of us post TR's of pow skiing all winter. You CAN have both, just play your cards right. These are the years that decide whether you will be a mediocre or good skier for the rest of your life. Get the fuck after it, and get an education in the process. College is a joke (you'll see), good luck.

**acostiga** · 10-07-2006, 08:03 AM

i'm not going to read through the entire thread, but i wanted to suggest that you apply for deferred admission once you've been accepted somewhere. then you'd be set to head off to college after spending a winter working/living/skiing some place like the rustler/peruvian... right? it was always something that i felt like i missed out on. seems like this is more popular among young people in other countries.

why aren't you considering any international schools? it'd be just about as easy to travel from the east coast and catch a flight to europe as going to a school on the west coast. they've got universities over there in across the pond, and you'd probably have a really awesome experience/perspective. again, once i was in school and doing a year of study abroad i wondered why i hadn't just thought of doing my entire undergrad thing somewhere more exciting than central new york.

**llyon** · 10-07-2006, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by acostiga

i'm not going to read through the entire thread, but i wanted to suggest that you apply for deferred admission once you've been accepted somewhere. then you'd be set to head off to college after spending a winter working/living/skiing some place like the rustler/peruvian... right? it was always something that i felt like i missed out on. seems like this is more popular among young people in other countries.

Thats what I'm doing. Rustler this year, DU next year.

**OldLarry** · 10-07-2006, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by Tippster

It's also considered one of the top Five Universities in the World.

Um, what was the crteria for the rankings here? Boulder over Brown? It's 2 notches below NYU? Hello? No offense to my brothers who went there, but come on! Certain depts maybe, but that's like 1% of the students there. I know a guy who FAILED history of Rock and Roll there. WTF is THAT?

**gone** · 10-08-2006, 08:37 PM

gm: Bad news first...Unless you're the son of a senator, 100% sioux, or have some incredible e.c.'s (read multiple published papers)--Brown, Columbia, and Berkeley are probably out of reach. I'm not intentionally trying to be negative, it's just the reality of these particular schools these days. On the plus side you can graduate without having just spent 150 grand on an undergraduate degree, which despite all that you learn, an ug degree is really not worth that much (and in speaking in terms of dollars, your earning potential--it's not worth shit). Go to a good, reasonably priced, school, and if you do really well, spend all that undergrad money on an impressive post-grad degree.

Good news (for skiing): Go wherever you want and look into nse.org-- you can do a domestic exchange at another university for as many as two semesters--which for you means you can spend 50% of your ug winters at a school such as u of u, wwu, msu, etc, all the while paying your home tuition.

oh, and if you do get in to Colum, Brown, Berk--huge congrats

**cj001f** · 10-08-2006, 08:42 PM

anyone who tells you ug degrees aren't worth shit in earning potential doesn't know shit.
http://jobpundit.blogspot.com/2006/0...eally-pay.html
As a realworld example for 'lesser' schools an ug RPI degree (not my alma matre) was worth an extra $5k in annual salary for engineers at a previous employer. And if you want to go to grad school a good undergrad degree can be useful in the sciences as well.

**gone** · 10-08-2006, 08:52 PM

cj, i was speaking more in general terms--yes, obviously some jobs, right out of school have a benefit (+5000--you'll make up the tuition difference in only 10-15 yrs), i was simply implying that the more you go on in education, the less and less important your ug degree becomes.

Also definitely not saying that the overall experience of an ivy is not worth it--just saying if you don't have a trust fund there are other good options

**cj001f** · 10-08-2006, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by gone

cj, i was speaking more in general terms--yes, obviously some jobs, right out of school have a benefit (+5000--you'll make up the tuition difference in only 10-15 yrs), i was simply implying that the more you go on in education, the less and less important your ug degree becomes.

oh, certainly - the further you get in life the less important the ug degree become. I was only pointing out the initial leg up can open alot of doors and get you to the same destination with less work (at least that's been my experience so far - with a "good" degree from a "decent" school). Also pointing out that there are tangible fiscal rewards to good schools, as well as the less tangible aspects.

**gone** · 10-08-2006, 09:16 PM

jesus man. I concede, and officially

don't know shit

**SnowTigress** · 10-08-2006, 09:18 PM

Glade,
Wow, what an exciting time. College is sooo different from any other period in life (including grad school). And living on your own for the first time?....Priceless. That said, I think you can make the most of any college you go to. Definitely apply to the harder schools you listed, but don't be bummed if it doens't work out. Like someone else said, sometimes it's more about who you know. And it seems scores are more and more competetive. Back when I was applying, a 1400 and 3.9 were Harvard material...not anymore.
As long as you are in A school, getting active in a field you're interested in, and meeting other folks who share your interests, you will have an amazing experience.
I went to Berkeley so I can give you my $.02 regarding the situation there. Yes, only 3 hours to great skiing in Tahoe, 6 hours to Mammoth. Lots of ski groups (clubs, teams, etc...). Also great city to live in...young, fun, vibrant, good eats, concerts/live music, lotsa culture, the bay and SF nearby, great mtn biking, watersports and climbing all around in the summer. You really can't go wrong. Best four years for me.

Gooooood luck! Let us know how it goes!

**hatfieldsbrother** · 10-08-2006, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by givebackbloom

Is DU really that snooty as I have heard from people?

Bloom I remember sending you a pm about this awhile back...

DU is really not snotty over all, sure there is a lot of kids here who have no idea what a job is or the value of money but honestly you will get that anywhere... if your a douche then you will probably associate with other douche's and well then I will never have to see you, but at least the people i associate with are some of the most laid back and kind people I’ve met and that goes for the entire campus as well, just because the school costs a boatload of money doesn’t mean that every single person here is a spoiled brat from connecticut or cherry creek, colorado...

as for the the plug for DU… I love it here, I’m a second year and if everything goes right then I will have my undergraduate done in a year from now and have my masters by the time most of my other friends are finishing their undergraduate… its not cheap but the 3/2 program (3 years undergrad, 2 years graduate) makes it worth it and in case you haven’t noticed DU’s business school is continually rising in the rankings… the campus is beautiful, the facilities are second to none and the size (at least for me) is perfect at just over 4,000… not to mention I get to ski about 60 days a year thanks to the brilliance of the quarter system…

take it for whatever its worth but I love it here and have never regretted my decision even though I am working so I can afford to come here, I could have stayed in Missouri and gone to mizzou and piss off the school work, have a great time, and hardly work but that would have been a pretty big waste.

**KungPowder** · 10-08-2006, 11:19 PM

Wow man I'm in the same fuckin boat. 3.89 with 1390 and extracurricular shit out the ass and im basically lookin at the same colleges with some changes.

Those little Ivies that were previously mentioned were right on the spot as far as the middle of the road too good for state not good enough for Ivy.

Colby, Bowdoin, Tufts, Colgate, Williams all really respectable schools and the I heard the undergrad experience is pretty sweet.

Plus this is where you make the grades if you plan on gettin into a good grad school. You dont necessarily need to get into the best undergrad school if you plan on getting a masters or doctorate. Its all about where you went to school last.

So I'm figuring on attending either one of the little Ivies or a small school, working my ass off, and then getting into a good med school and hopefully shred the gnar as a dentist