Fitness Trackers

[Flippo]

I am looking for a Garmin 7 /7x sapphire solar if anyone is upgrading to the 8.

Thanks.


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[Dee Hubbs]

I am looking for a Garmin 7 /7x sapphire solar if anyone is upgrading to the 8. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

f?nix 7X Pro – Solar Edition is on sale on the Garmin site from

$900

down to $549. https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/865945/pn/010-02778-00/
or
f?nix 7X Pro – Sapphire Solar is on sale on the Garmin site from

$1000

down to $649. https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/866230/pn/010-02778-10/

[Flippo]

f?nix 7X Pro – Solar Edition is on sale on the Garmin site from

$900

down to $549. https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/865945/pn/010-02778-00/
or
f?nix 7X Pro – Sapphire Solar is on sale on the Garmin site from

$1000

down to $649. https://www.garmin.com/en-US/p/866230/pn/010-02778-10/

Thanks. It’s still a bit too much for my wallet and I am trying to find a better deal with a used one. Someone sold his 7x pro few months ago for $350 here and I missed it.


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[zion zig zag]

Ive been using the Garmin for about a week now and it turns out I sleep terribly. I mean, I kinda knew that but this puts data to it. So far my best sleep score is 60 and my REM sleep is about 30 minutes. I need to make some changes.

[Going Coastal]

I got an 88 last Tue and felt like a god.

[Dee Hubbs]

I rarely look at my sleep score, but if I go for a bike ride and my legs are heavy and I feel like crap, I'll look at my sleep score after I get home from a ride. After a crap ride it almost always shows a poor sleep score or a low body battery/recovery score from the night before.

[muted reborn]

Besides the Coros Pace for sale I also have a Fitbit Charge 4 I'd sell for $25. It's in great condition and used for maybe 6 months.

[Danno]

I'd take that fitbit, will send PM

[brutah]

I use a coros apex pro. Great watch, tracks my exercises well and gives me some health metrics, including sleep. I went with coros because it was significantly cheaper than Garmin at the time and had a great battery life. Last charged mine on July 13th, used it 8 times, wore it during all hours awake and today, July 25th battery life is still at 20%.

[Dantheman]

ZZZ,

I'd be very cautious about the sleep data. These devices do not directly measure sleep in any way. They extrapolate sleep states from HR, HRV, and accelerometer data and the accuracy of the number the algorithm spits out is questionable.

We are also very susceptible to induced belief effects from the sleep data trackers give us. There have been some very interesting studies where researchers provided subjects with hacked trackers that allowed them to manipulate the data; subjects sometimes got the real data and sometimes they got a fake score that was the opposite how well or not they actually slept. Subjects' self-reported mood states and objective performance on cognitive tests correlated far more closely with the number displayed on the device than their actual sleep score.

[Going Coastal]

There is definite variance in the quality of sleep data day-to-day, but I have noticed some trends in my own sleep patterns over 4yrs that helped me get better rest and improve my long term health. The big things were quantifying how detrimental night shift work was for my health, and identifying what type of sleep positions triggered sleep apnea.

I wouldn't take the number as gospel, and I would say that my overnight resting HR is a way better indicator for me on the quality of my sleep.

[carlh]

1 week in with the Fenix and just getting to know it. Not sure I have any real insights yet but my sleep score goes down a bunch after 1 beer. It is also helping me understand how hard I’m working, and how far and slow I run.

[Flippo]

I scored an epix pro 47mm off ebay ($400) and will report shortly on my experience. Coming from a Tomtom watch I am sure that i will see some improvements

[zion zig zag]

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ZZZ, I&#39;d be very cautious about the sleep data. These devices do not directly measure sleep in any way. They extrapolate sleep states from HR, HRV, and accelerometer data and the accuracy of the number the algorithm spits out is questionable. We are also very susceptible to induced belief effects from the sleep data trackers give us. There have been some very interesting studies where researchers provided subjects with hacked trackers that allowed them to manipulate the data; subjects sometimes got the real data and sometimes they got a fake score that was the opposite how well or not they actually slept. Subjects&#39; self-reported mood states and objective performance on cognitive tests correlated far more closely with the number displayed on the device than their actual sleep score.

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I believe you RE: the study. After 4 weeks it seems to have stabilized a bit and I trust it a bit more but take it with a grain of salt. Things Ive learned: having one Pacifico at 5pm isnt a huge sleep impact, but having a cocktail at 8pm is a sleep killer. I knew this from experience but having the HRV data back it up was eye opening. Also, going for a hard effort bike ride and finishing an hour or so before bed is bad for my sleep. This sucks because I work till 5pm and starting a ride at 6pm is the only way to get in a mid week ride sometimes.&nbsp;</p>
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I am loving only having to charge once a week vs not making it through a long day with the Apple Watch.&nbsp;</p>

[dmcd]

I can't imagine having to charge every day for a watch. Especially in a world where there are watches that can go a week while still handling 80% of daily activities.

[XtrPickels]

@DanTheMan - I love deception trials - any time a researcher misleads a subject about the treatment - whether adding hand lotion to a bath and telling them it's the newest recovery aid - to reporting false power data - to your study, it just reinforces how much of performance and well-being is objective!

I bought the Garmin Index sleep monitor - Mostly to use as a wearable alarm clock because I sleep with earplugs. It'll be interesting to see how it settles in. I've thought about 3D printing a structure to let me wear it on my wrist all day - It's silly that Garmin came out with this and not a "Whoop"-like device. Ultimately I went with Garmin to not have multiple Eco-systems. But, I do wish all these devices played better with each other...

I wear "real" watches, so didn't want to use my Epix or another sports watch - I also can't sleep with a watch on my wrist. I would have gone Oura or another ring but they don't vibrate for an alarm.

[EWG]

ZZZ, I&#39;d be very cautious about the sleep data. These devices do not directly measure sleep in any way. They extrapolate sleep states from HR, HRV, and accelerometer data and the accuracy of the number the algorithm spits out is questionable. We are also very susceptible to induced belief effects from the sleep data trackers give us. There have been some very interesting studies where researchers provided subjects with hacked trackers that allowed them to manipulate the data; subjects sometimes got the real data and sometimes they got a fake score that was the opposite how well or not they actually slept. Subjects&#39; self-reported mood states and objective performance on cognitive tests correlated far more closely with the number displayed on the device than their actual sleep score.

There are some realy interesting studies that show that the way people THINK they slept has more to do with how functional they are and how good they feel than how they ACTUALLY slept.

Also, CBT-i is pretty fascinating. I&#39;ve read a bunch on it and the biggest thing I incoporated is to stop worrying about my sleep. If I wake up I give myself another 15-20 mintues or so to fall back asleep and if I dont, I just get up.

Huge help.

[Dantheman]

You definitely don't want to lay in bed awake worrying about not being asleep. I get up and go stare out the sliding door into the back yard. Pretty reliably within 5-ish minutes I'll feel sleepy and fall right to sleep when I go back to bed. If that for some reason that doesn't work or I can't do it, I try to change the mindset to appreciate the opportunity for relaxation.

[mcski]

Hopefully your neighbors can’t see you like we see our creepy new neighbor staring out his windows into the night

[dewam]

I am often out of any cell or internet access for weeks at a time. I have worn a fitbit for a few years, and it is useless without internet for tracking sleep or just about everything beside current heart rate and steps. How well do the newer devices work outside of internet or cell service? Den

[singlesline]

Expertvoice has an extra sale on some Garmin stuff right now if you have access.

Decided to take the plunge on a Fenix 7 Pro with Solar/Saphire for what seemed like a very fair price.

My Apple Watch's battery has gone downhill and was a shitty charge-daily experience even to begin with...and the #1 feature I bought it for has been neutered (used to be able to accept frequent 2FA push notifications for work from my wrist, but they disabled push notifications for "security").

Curious to see what better tracking of health metrics and activities looks like.