Electric Bike Thread

[summit]

I've seen those at Vail Pass... quiet! I'm not sure their range and offtrail ability vs other timber sleds.

[ticketchecker]

Regulator https://www.transitionbikes.com/Bikes_RegulatorCX.cfm

[XXX-er]

looks like a good spec IMO and they are are only doing 2 builds expensive and really fucking expensive which I think is smart so speaking to the forks I have an old Zeb but i wonder whats with the RS Domain ?

[Shredhead]

Might look into this Trek.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...lorCode=yellow

[XXX-er]

Thats a mid power E- bike which is I asume what you want, and with a 5K $ discount, did mid power not sell ?

[Shredhead]

No, I'm still all about the FATe for winter riding.

But that Trek gets great reviews and it's a stealth ebike. It's super quiet and you can't even tell it's an ebike.
Plus it's 5k off.

[XXX-er]

No what ? Do want a midpower Ebike or a fullpower Ebike or a FATe or a new pony ?

[summit]

That Trek has a pretty anemic battery and motor. But it is a light all mountain emtb, top end build, on discount.

Regulator looks like a short travel Repeater.

I'll still be on my Relay.

I love Tran$ition.

[Andeh]

Regulator CX is basically a Santa Cruz Vala, but a couple grand cheaper with better build kit. It has a bit less adjustment, and from personal experience the finish/tolerances/paint won't be as good, but it should be a damn good bike.

[XXX-er]

That Trek has a pretty anemic battery and motor.






well yeah but some people are into that whole mid-power thing, personaly I want 85nm's and I don't see the point in midpower but what do I know





I think the end loser should know what they are buying, if a bike is discounted 5k I gotta wonder if the buying public is not that into midpower enough to buy them ?

[summit]

Fazua Ride 60 range extender coming out Q2 so is the rumor... but then again it was promised Q2 last year...

[Andeh]

I just talked to the owner of my local shop who's a SC dealer - he said the range extender and the 480 battery were supposed to be out in Jan but got pushed back a little bit more. He said it should be really soon now. He said dealers will be able to get them as upgrade kits from the bike brands.

[summit]

My understanding is the 480 is a built in only option. If you have a removable, it won't work?

[XXX-er]

on a bike with an easy to swap battery i would just get another battery to carry in my pack as oposed to a range extender, ime 600 + watts of battery has been enough to ride 3 or 4 hrs on low speed single track but of course YMMV

[Andeh]

No idea, I have a Heckler SL which has the fixed battery. I've degraded mine 4% over a year from fully draining it nearly every ride so I was going to get it plus the RE, and not use the RE all the time.

The annoying thing with REs from everyone I've talked to who has one on different systems (Bosch, Specialized) is that they drain concurrently with main battery, not before. So you can't throw one on, drain it first over a lap or two, then ditch it in the truck / bushes and ride out a lighter bike. One guy said his work around is to stash his in the bushes a number of miles in, then use it on his way out back to the car.

[summit]

Specialized RE drains first in my limited experience (Kenevo SL). Dunno how other brands or Fazua will work.

Relay has a 430wh removable battery. Yes, I could get a second one, find some waterproof bag, and strap it to the downtube maybe (don't smash it or boom!). Carrying a 5# battery in my packpack sounds less enticing since first of all I almost never wear a backpack and rarely a hippack (I strap shit to my bike frame). Even on a hip pack meh. That is why a RE is good, although sometimes that then displaces water. IME I've needed an extra 10-30% of range, not double. So the 480 or a RE is what I need...</p>

[XXX-er]

A back pack is not an issue on a full power Eeb IME, so I can carry lots of stuff including a silky Big Boy 7/24 which handles most blowdown Immediately without a power saw 630 watts of battery is enough for 3 or 4 hrs and then its time for a beer so IME the battery size has got big enough to do at least a whole ride

[jm2e]

I want full power with range extender capability. I'm fine with the built in battery. I've ridden with full size 650w batteries in a pack and it doesn't cary well, and replacing it is a pain in the ass. Having a couple range extenders that ride well in the pack and attach to the bike like a water bottle would work better for me.
My local rides work fine with the OE battery, even with it's considerable degradation over 5 years. But when we're in Italy, ebikes are all about maximum range. I think the built in batteries are nice and sleek and definitely save weight, but ideally I'd have something that I can pull the battery out of and travel overseas with, then rent a battery or two at my destination. Or just buy one there and keep it with friends.

[summit]

I only ride with a pack if I'm doing race support or trail work (it might have an e-chainsaw).

I probably have a role for both a RE and a second battery

[jackstraw]

VPP gone on this one too...times are a changing at SC

https://youtu.be/AnwqSSukmGo?si=8F3A7MX4KfYKiJkT

[XXX-er]

I think comparing Vala to new Bullit is like comparing the old heckler to the old Bullit,


I believe SC wanted to ditch the Shimano motor for the Bosch and the only way to physiclay do it was get rid of VPP suspension ?
I supose the thing to look for from SC is will be the acoustic models where you are not trying to cram a motor/ battery have also ditched the VPP ?
My bullit is 4 yrs old with 5500 low speed kms and its great I just replace the usual consumables, no plans to upgrade as long as the EP8 keeps churning
I find that guy doing the PK was kind of annoying

[ticketchecker]

I’d read the same about the Bosch facilitating the move away from vpp for the eMTBs


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[XXX-er]

So from another review my at a glance take



22.4 kilo is 49.3835467294 lbs, not that I think its going to make much difference at 50-ish lbs but SC claimed 49.75 on the old bullit and I got 52+ on my bathroom scale so Did anybody actualy weigh the new Bullit ? I like the mullet, tire choice is same as old Bullit which is good IMO, I like the control panel on the toptube the power switch on the BB on v1 is a bit of a pain, curious if the battery comes out easily, also how it handles compared to v1 Bullit, it seemed like there were more Hecklers than v1 Bullits out there ? So apparently the switch to 4 bar is to get away from the Shimano motor so It will be interesting to see if SC makes the acoustic bikes still with VPP or starts going to 4 bar, I heard of a whole lot of E010 error codes I am meh on the EP8 but mine is still going strong after 4 yrs and 5500 kms I really like the old VPP v1 bullit

[ticketchecker]

Got my eyes on a Regulator CX as a knee replacement treat to myself this summer, how much would I regret not getting the XT build? The suspension and brake upgrade looks to be significant, neither one is going to make the wife happy but she knows it's coming.

I have a pro account through work so the difference between the two is less than 1400 so I could stretch to the XT or get off 'easy' on the Deore build.

[XXX-er]

I just got the lowest spec SRAM build on my Bullit IMO 85nms covers a lot of sins IME