United Healthcare CEO shot to death in front of NYC investor meeting

[XXX-er]

meanwhile up narth I would ask bro if he wants to go skiing ? Buddy sez no I gotta do an office day, which means he is probably short of cash so he has to submit a bunch of work he did to the HC plan

[heckacali]

Remember when we were all laughing and Pharma-bro Shkreli and his punchable face getting their comeuppance with prison and fines?
Simpler times

[jackstraw]

So what's the collectives thoughts on this guy? Younger dude, so did he lose a child, wife, or parent? Or did he just snap and was fed up with everything chosing this evil to attack?

[Ted Striker]

Oh, and he was facing insider trading charges from the DOJ, because it appears he’s an unscrupulous piece of shit across all aspects of his life and career.

That's SOP
https://www.sec.gov/news/press/2007/2007-255.htm

[snowaddict91]

The CEO of the hospital system Mrs. Snowaddict works at fired her boss with no notice yesterday. 3 weeks before Christmas. He has worked there for 20 years. Word is they are going to outsource the whole department to a contracting company.

He must not read the news.

[Harry]

So what's the collectives thoughts on this guy? Younger dude, so did he lose a child, wife, or parent? Or did he just snap and was fed up with everything chosing this evil to attack?

All of the above.

[exsparky]

So what do they call the suspect guy that got away so far?

The hooded robin hood of health care
Smiles a lot/shoots from behind killer - this is my favorite I came up with.
?The lone health care ranger
HPEB Killer - Hoods, Pistol and Ebike.
Delay, deny, defend and don't forget to smile killer.
The he's gonna get caught in about a week killer but its gonna be a mistrial.
The did you really pay $300 for that backpack killer?

This is how much he spent on the gun. Which had to have taken some time to get given the paperwork.

[Conundrum]

I'm currently helping a physician appeal a denied insurance claim. Actual condensed version of the conversation with a VP of an insurance company.

"Hey, have a claim I need to chat about but before I do, let me ask you what you would do if you were experiencing chest pain".

"Well, I would go to the emergency room."

"Me too. And the emergency room doc you would probably see is the patient in question."

"Oh, I didn't know that. The denial shows that she doesn't meet the criteria for the chest scan she had based on her medical history and age."

"Does the criteria show that her younger brother had his ribs cracked to perform open heart surgery last year."

"The medical notes don't show that here."

"Yes they do because because she gave them to me and I'm reading them. She is an ER physician who called the cardiologist to run the scan like she would for you if you showed up in her ER presenting the symptoms she was."

"Oh, well, um..."

"How about I have her submit a bill for herself being admitted in the ER and you can pay for that before you cover the scan that you are currently denying."

"Let me take another look and see if we can get this covered."

"Cool, thanks. Have you been following the news this week?"

"Yeah, pretty sad deal."


No sense of irony detected. Our system is fuct.

[Ted Striker]

So what's the collectives thoughts on this guy?

He seems too cavalier to be seeking vengeance for a wife/kid. Flirting with the receptionist will for sure get him caught.

I'm leaning toward he's terminal, and decided to take the CEO with him.

[Mazderati]

The gofundme for legal fees should set him up with a nice team.

[bennymac]

Yeah - imagine you have some terminal disease. Not long to live. And then some cute girl working at the hostel starts flirting with you. Fuck it - drop the mask and give her a smile.

This guy planned pretty well. I think he knew what he was risking when he pulled down his mask. No use going to the grave with regrets.

[californiagrown]

The gofundme for legal fees should set him up with a nice team.

think it will be bigger or smaller than rittenhouse's?

[Ted Striker]

re: gofundme https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQue...g_campaign_to/

[Mazderati]

Ah, OK. I knew legal fees were a go but the devil is in the details.

[riser4]

I'm currently helping a physician appeal a denied insurance claim. Actual condensed version of the conversation with a VP of an insurance company.

"Hey, have a claim I need to chat about but before I do, let me ask you what you would do if you were experiencing chest pain".

"Well, I would go to the emergency room."

"Me too. And the emergency room doc you would probably see is the patient in question."

"Oh, I didn't know that. The denial shows that she doesn't meet the criteria for the chest scan she had based on her medical history and age."

"Does the criteria show that her younger brother had his ribs cracked to perform open heart surgery last year."

"The medical notes don't show that here."

"Yes they do because because she gave them to me and I'm reading them. She is an ER physician who called the cardiologist to run the scan like she would for you if you showed up in her ER presenting the symptoms she was."

"Oh, well, um..."

"How about I have her submit a bill for herself being admitted in the ER and you can pay for that before you cover the scan that you are currently denying."

"Let me take another look and see if we can get this covered."

"Cool, thanks. Have you been following the news this week?"

"Yeah, pretty sad deal."


No sense of irony detected. Our system is fuct.

Hopefully that turd weasel doesn't turn around and claim that you threatened him by mentioning the news.

[riser4]

So what do they call the suspect guy that got away so far?

The hooded robin hood of health care
Smiles a lot/shoots from behind killer - this is my favorite I came up with.
?The lone health care ranger
HPEB Killer - Hoods, Pistol and Ebike.
Delay, deny, defend and don't forget to smile killer.
The he's gonna get caught in about a week killer but its gonna be a mistrial.
The did you really pay $300 for that backpack killer?

This is how much he spent on the gun. Which had to have taken some time to get given the paperwork.

Interesting that it was a B&T. That's supposed to be good stuff. I believe that's the model marketed to animal control workers? I have no experience with suppressed semi-auto fire. Is having to cycle manually expected, especially for that specific weapon?

[Dantheman]

This is a pretty great discussion about how and why the US spends so much on healthcare: https://peterattiamd.com/saumsutaria/

Unbelievably timely, released just days before this shooting. Some highlights:

-Americans are generally unwilling to compromise on quality and access/choice, but quality, access/choice, and low costs are effectively the "Good/fast/cheap, pick two" problem. We constrain demand demand via cost, while other countries' systems (who also maintain very high quality) constrain demand and costs via supply-side intervention (e.g., long wait times for non-emergency MRIs and other elective procedures in Canada).
-We can blame the employer-based coverage system for much of this, but it's so entrenched that we're unlikely to ever be rid of it.
-We subsidize drug costs for the rest of the world, though this is at least partially responsible for the fact that most drug innovation happens in America.
-A lot of ridiculous "costs" like $20 aspirins are complete fictions made up so that insurers can claim they are creating value.
-Many things, particularly PBMs, started out as reasonable ideas that have become parodies of themselves thanks to various perverse incentives and fuckery.

[riser4]

Yeah - imagine you have some terminal disease. Not long to live. And then some cute girl working at the hostel starts flirting with you. Fuck it - drop the mask and give her a smile.

This guy planned pretty well. I think he knew what he was risking when he pulled down his mask. No use going to the grave with regrets.

[exsparky]

Interesting that it was a B&T. That's supposed to be good stuff. I believe that's the model marketed to animal control workers? I have no experience with suppressed semi-auto fire. Is having to cycle manually expected, especially for that specific weapon?

Its a bolt action, super expensive, traceable, awkward, rare, goofball gun that never sold well.

[riser4]

Its a bolt action, super expensive, traceable, awkward, rare, goofball gun that never sold well.

Oh. Like a Welrod.

[Conundrum]

And for suppressed semi-auto, you can change the springs out to accommodate to different recoil for cycle.

[byates1]

Its a bolt action, super expensive, traceable, awkward, rare, goofball gun that never sold well.

Very odd choice

[Conundrum]

Hopefully that turd weasel doesn't turn around and claim that you threatened him by mentioning the news.

No concern. I know them. It was more of a comment on public perception which is a key item they are working on. The comment was more of a notice to them that the people who give the care and who the insurance company has an entire team devoted to provider relations can't even get a common sense claim paid without prior auth so how do you think the general public views them.

[XXX-er]

Why pay the big money to HC CEO's ... think of the money to be saved by just offing them ?

[dan_pdx]

Why pay the big money to HC CEO's ... think of the money to be saved by just offing them ?

Google says UHC has 30 M customers, so everyone would get their premiums cut by 33 cents/year. The salaries are a drop in the bucket, it's the denials and as elegantly described above, the "fuck fuck game" around claims processing and denials that cause pain/run up costs.