Moment Skis Discussion

[TahoeJosh]

Thanks, Possum!

Anyone have a chance to ride any Kastle Paragons? I’m curious how they (any of the three widths) compare to the Commanders and Countaches.

[FloridaSnow]

Dwt 104’s onsale

https://www.momentskis.com/collectio...-cosmetic-blem

[zion zig zag]

Dwt 104’s onsale

https://www.momentskis.com/collectio...-cosmetic-blem

Cosmetic blems for $90 off while some of the biggest names in the industry are doing Black Friday deals at $300 a pair? Is that a joke? Good for moment though.

[tenB]

Cosmetic blems for $90 off while some of the biggest names in the industry are doing Black Friday deals at $300 a pair? Is that a joke? Good for moment though.

Simple economics. Moment has higher demand and lower supply than the bigger euro companies. Oh, and they’re built better and ski better too.

[SnowMachine]

SnowMachine, I look forward to hearing your take on E94’s vs C102’s. I’m familiar with the Enforcer line (E93’s and E110’s are my early season/rock skis) so a direct comparison against the Commanders would be super helpful!


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For sure. Give me a few days. Today was day one. I took out the Blade Optic 114 rock specials. Turned out to be a great day of free refills at the summit. I go back to work on skis in 2 weeks. I'll be hammering in as many days as I can between now and then. I'll bring the C102 and E94 and back to back them. I skied the E110 at +1 almost a full season. I love that ski, but I like the poppiness of the Deathwish a bit better. I definitely wouldn't be mad to ski the E110 still if it were available.

[FloridaSnow]

Cosmetic blems for $90 off while some of the biggest names in the industry are doing Black Friday deals at $300 a pair? Is that a joke? Good for moment though.

there is not a single company comparable to moment that are selling their skis for $300.

[SnowMachine]

I’m not moving away, I love my DW with Cast, so much so that I castified my Ghost Trains also! Both are fantastic resort/side country/motorized/short tour builds.

And if I can only travel with one ski it’s the DW w/ Cast.

The WC108T with ATKs will be my pure touring/mountaineering set.

I've been tempted to Cast my DW's since they are already mounted with P15's. I need something lighter for big days. I was originally looking at Line Vision 108's, but love my Moments. Decisions, decisions.

[SnowMachine]

Cosmetic blems for $90 off while some of the biggest names in the industry are doing Black Friday deals at $300 a pair? Is that a joke? Good for moment though.

Moment has played the game better than almost any ski brand (4FRNT seems to do it well, also). They sell out every year and build high end product produced locally. They'd go out of business selling skis for $300. The skis selling for $300 are mostly Chinese production of mediocre quality (like my $250 Blade Optic 114's that are falling apart).

[Going Coastal]

My C98s made me smile today. And in 7yrs when they still make me smile I won't care that they were a few hundred more than some of the more cost conscious competition. Skiing obviously needs the corporate giants to be accessible and sustainable, and they even make some great products; but I think Moment, ON3P, Praxis, and especially the uber niche small shops are really the soul of the sport and I'm happy to support them when I can.

Anyway, Day 1 with the C98s today.

[eskido]

And in 7yrs when they still make me smile I won't care that they were a few hundred more than some of the more cost conscious competition…. I think Moment, ON3P, Praxis, and especially the uber niche small shops are really the soul of the sport and I'm happy to support them when I can.

Anyway, Day 1 with the C98s today.

Preach brother

[hick]

Well said Going Coastal. Soon it will be opening day at Bridger and I’ll likely bust out my 2013 Bibby’s for low tide. They have 4 mounts, no delams, no broken edges and ski like they did when I got them. I’ve never owned a ski from another major ski manufacturer that had been able to do that. All those skis have become coat racks or part of someone’s ski fence. They make a phenomenal ski imo and make it very easy for me as consumer to support them.


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[zion zig zag]

Alright, alright, alright. Didn’t mean to stir the shit so much. I got my first pair of Moments at the end of last season so time will tell if they are worth the premium.

[tgapp]

Cosmetic blems for $90 off while some of the biggest names in the industry are doing Black Friday deals at $300 a pair? Is that a joke? Good for moment though.

I think a lot of it is marketing and branding, and a lot of it is ski quality. The two aren't mutually exclusive though.

I'll never get tired of the FS posts - "Moment Deathwish 190cm, two mounts, three core shots, skied two years, asking $550" with them getting snapped up in minutes.

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[TahoeJ]

Best description I’ve seen of the differences is this:



I’ve had both 190 DWT and WCT 108, and concur with this. Both are great - Wildcat tour 108 feels a bit more playful, surfier, and somehow also stable, while the Deathwish is a bit edgier and better in firm conditions but also still good in pow. Float is similar. WCT 108 better in breakable.

I really liked these skis but generally prefer flatter tails in the BC for kick turns, anchors, tail-jamming (for securing your ski on steeps while putting on skis), etc., so really looking forward to a Moment tour layup with flatter tails.

The main variable is if you like or love the triple camber. I know you like that, so think you’d prefer the DWT. Especially with the big gun Rens in the stable for deep days and fast skiing.


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I agree with all of this. If I only had one touring setup I’d probably go DWT but since I have a narrower setup for variable days, the WCT 108 compliments it perfectly.

[Flippo]

Yes, the whole ‘we’re doing things differently, we’re rock and roll’ vibe was probably their ethos from the start. People who were buying their skis back then now have deeper pockets as they’ve grown older.

I absolutely love my Deathwish skis and would love to pick up the DW 104s. That said, it’s tough to follow their stocklisation and hard to justify paying twice the price of other skis.

Still, I understand their higher production costs and craftsmanship, and I’m genuinely happy for their success.

[SnowMachine]

I agree with all of this. If I only had one touring setup I’d probably go DWT but since I have a narrower setup for variable days, the WCT 108 compliments it perfectly.

I skied my DW's today and had a blast. It's such a fun, versatile ski. I really don't think I could go wrong with either ski, but the DW is a known commodity.

[possum]

I've been tempted to Cast my DW's since they are already mounted with P15's. I need something lighter for big days. I was originally looking at Line Vision 108's, but love my Moments. Decisions, decisions.

This is hearsay, but I’ve heard Line’s durability is no bueno.

[possum]

I skied my DW's today and had a blast. It's such a fun, versatile ski. I really don't think I could go wrong with either ski, but the DW is a known commodity.

Stick with what you know and love

I have a DWT so I will have the best of both worlds. I just don’t need a shift on them.

[eSock]

I'm rocking the DW104 w/ CAST and the DWT as main touring rig. Both make great choices for taking out anytime and knowing I'll have a good time.

[SnowMachine]

This is hearsay, but I’ve heard Line’s durability is no bueno.

I haven't been amped on the build quality of the Blade Optics. My top sheet/metal started to delam in less than 5 days. I epoxied them back together and they're doing alright after another 20 or so days. About what you'd expect for $250 skis. I kinda considered them disposable from day one. They sure aren't built like Moments. I think they addressed the issue on the new Optics.

I think you guys have me talked into DWT's. Why mess with a good thing?

I do still want to ski the big Wildcat. I think it could replace those Blade Optics when they go full rock ski.

[TahoeJosh]

I can also vouch for Moments’ durability. Edge compression under foot last year on my Wildcats (nailed a hidden rock at apex of turn in blower powder). The shock was enough to crack the sidewall with multiple vertical cracks over the compression, but there was no delam at all. A bit of epoxy to seal the cracks and swapping sides and the skis still perform perfectly.

I had the opposite experience with Volkl Revolts that spontaneously delaminated at the VDS layer under foot. Volkl replaced them under warranty, but that took 4 months…

[FloridaSnow]

https://www.momentskis.com/collectio...ducts/meridian

Meridians are back with a new TS.

Blades are back as well

https://www.momentskis.com/collectio...chipotleblades

[FloridaSnow]

[Eastside]

I can also vouch for Moments’ durability. Edge compression under foot last year on my Wildcats (nailed a hidden rock at apex of turn in blower powder). The shock was enough to crack the sidewall with multiple vertical cracks over the compression, but there was no delam at all. A bit of epoxy to seal the cracks and swapping sides and the skis still perform perfectly.

I had the opposite experience with Volkl Revolts that spontaneously delaminated at the VDS layer under foot. Volkl replaced them under warranty, but that took 4 months…

I hit a rock so hard on my Bananas is actually broke/destroyed my boot. It gouged the base but not to the point of a base weld.

[TahoeJosh]

PSA: Moment just went live w some decent discounts. I picked up a pair of the 23/24 Commander 92 for $449


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