Maggot motorcycle stoke thread

[Djongo Unchained]

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"The last of the late brakers..."

Those 2 were hell on wheels. That rear tire skip would leave shit in yer pants fosho.

Been tuning up my sporty bike with some fresh fluids and finally installed a new front cowl since I cracked the original a few years ago. R6 shock in the rear and fresh fluid, springs and seals out front.

A 22 year old FZ1 that still gets 50+ mpg. and I honk on that mofo all over this valley.

[climberevan]

I hadn't seen that clip, so thanks for posting it!

[Name Redacted]

A few shots from the Kokopelli trail. If you are looking for a 100-150 mile adventure ride through various different environments and terrain this is a pretty good one. Grand Junction to Moab. Singletrack, doubletrack, jeep roads, dirt roads, and pavement. Rough and somewhat challenging at times.

Oh yeah, and when you shoot your bike over your head on slick rock and it lands directly on the shifter, it pokes a hole in your crank case cover, and you leave a trail of shame and oil back to the parking lot and earn dirty looks from all the Prius driving mountain bikers while you drink beers waiting for your friends to finish the ride.

[Meadow Skipper]

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[Supermoon]

That should buff right out

[Name Redacted]

Crank case cover should be a pretty easy fix (fingers crossed). She'll be back on the dirt shortly. Luckily had a truck to come pick her up and drag her home. Of course it happened on a Sunday so no shops in Moab were open. The 450 is kicking my ass lately, not giving up on her yet, but she's a beast, and not exactly perfect for what I like to ride. Might trade her in on something different after this season.

Planned on riding the Kokopelli back from Moab too, at least a mellow shorter version, but the crash ended that idea. Which was OK because I was pretty sore after the ride to Moab. Definitely a good ride if you are into that kinda longer day trip. We might check out Rim Rocker/Paradox and a few others this summer too. Alpine loop is also on the list.

[apex dave]

Shifter punching crankcase is very common if you don't install aftermarket case guards. Hopefully JB weld will fix it but I suggest you install guards before riding again.

[Name Redacted]

Shifter punching crankcase is very common if you don't install aftermarket case guards. Hopefully JB weld will fix it but I suggest you install guards before riding again.

Yeah, Im just getting a new case, it was time for an oil change anyway. Ill probably get guards too. Jb weld was discussed but i wouldnt trust it enough for 150 more miles through rough remote terrain.

[apex dave]

Good plan

[skinipenem]

Moving to the pnw from the flatter lands of far upstate ny I'm bringing my 300rr beta and 250 beta trials bike.

Will I 'need' a lectron, billetron, or smartcarb for the 300rr? Or can I re-jet once and call it good?

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[climberevan]

I love the Lectron on my 200. In the PNW you'll be riding from sea level to at least 6000', so rejetting will be necessary without one. I have no experience with the other brands, but I'm a total believer in that style of carb. Bonus for me was about a 50% increase in fuel economy!

[Name Redacted]

Moving to the pnw from the flatter lands of far upstate ny I'm bringing my 300rr beta and 250 beta trials bike.

Will I 'need' a lectron, billetron, or smartcarb for the 300rr? Or can I re-jet once and call it good?

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I have a buddy with a beta 300rr w/ lectron that seems to do fine at altitudes between 5-10k’. He did already blow an engine on it though. Fortunately they warrantied it.

[Cisco Kid]

North Bend WA and Rochester NY are both at approx 600' elevation. But from NB you can ride up to 5000'. Ridable NY maxes out at 2-3000' as far as I know. I needed to rejet my 9.9 Evinrude that I moved from Denver to NB.

[skinipenem]

I love the Lectron on my 200. In the PNW you'll be riding from sea level to at least 6000', so rejetting will be necessary without one. I have no experience with the other brands, but I'm a total believer in that style of carb. Bonus for me was about a 50% increase in fuel economy!

Improved gas mileage would be nice, too!

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[skinipenem]

I have a buddy with a beta 300rr w/ lectron that seems to do fine at altitudes between 5-10k’. He did already blow an engine on it though. Fortunately they warrantied it.

Why did his engine die?

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[Name Redacted]

Why did his engine die?

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Not exactly sure. It was brand new. He had a lot of problems with it. I don't think it was due to the Lectron though.

[Mountainman]

Moving to the pnw from the flatter lands of far upstate ny I'm bringing my 300rr beta and 250 beta trials bike.

Will I 'need' a lectron, billetron, or smartcarb for the 300rr? Or can I re-jet once and call it good?

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I had a lectron and lectron h-series on two different KTM's for a lot of years. Two other friends had the h-series on their YZ250s. We all agreed after going back to Mikuni and Keheins that we would never buy a lectron again. We normally rode with 4k elevation changes regularly.

I have not tried a smartcarb or billetron so have no idea if either would have improved anything for us.

[skinipenem]

I had a lectron and lectron h-series on two different KTM's for a lot of years. Two other friends had the h-series on their YZ250s. We all agreed after going back to Mikuni and Keheins that we would never buy a lectron again. We normally rode with 4k elevation changes regularly.

I have not tried a smartcarb or billetron so have no idea if either would have improved anything for us.

I've heard this experience elsewhere as well.

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[tellybele]

I've had good 'luck' with both mikuni and keihin with JD jetting from 4-10k in a KTM 250&300. Have fun!

[skinipenem]

I've had good 'luck' with both mikuni and keihin with JD jetting from 4-10k in a KTM 250&300. Have fun!

Have you had to re jet when you ride at the higher elevations? If not, what elevation did you target for jetting? I'll be riding mostly between 700 and 5000 ft of elevation.

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[climberevan]

I had a lectron and lectron h-series on two different KTM's for a lot of years. Two other friends had the h-series on their YZ250s. We all agreed after going back to Mikuni and Keheins that we would never buy a lectron again. We normally rode with 4k elevation changes regularly.

I have not tried a smartcarb or billetron so have no idea if either would have improved anything for us.

Why?

I found the Lectron to improve everything except for the first start of the day, which takes a bunch of kicks. I'm curious about what you found lacking.

[tellybele]

Have you had to re jet when you ride at the higher elevations? If not, what elevation did you target for jetting? I'll be riding mostly between 700 and 5000 ft of elevation.

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I would open up the air screw 3/4-1 turn.

[Percy Rideout]

Have you had to re jet when you ride at the higher elevations? If not, what elevation did you target for jetting? I'll be riding mostly between 700 and 5000 ft of elevation.

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I was able to ride with both a mikuni and Keihin on different KTM 250/300 platforms from 4k-12,800k with air screw adjustments. Bike ran super rich above 10k, but it ran. I'd probably rejet chasing a crisp throttle for the high country riding season.

[Mountainman]

Why?

I found the Lectron to improve everything except for the first start of the day, which takes a bunch of kicks. I'm curious about what you found lacking.

They were sometimes decent and sometimes bad. Mine would never run great through all RPMs no matter what the metering rod (which sucks as they're $40 a pop). Could tune for low but 3/4 would not be great or vice-versa. Tried 4 different rods and lots of depths.

The slide wear was annoying as it wore fairly quickly and then would start to run lean/weird. Both of mine had air leaks between the two cast halves. Top gasket was frail (looks updated on the Billetrons maybe). Grit easily got into the choke and you could feel it when pulling it up (easy to clean luckily).

I went back to the stock Mikuni (which most don't like) and threw a JD jet kit on it and it just ran better, more power, and I never rejetted for the elevations we rode. I think the 'jets itself for any elevation' is oversold for the Lectrons.

I do admit to not having any experience with carbs beyond the H-series. I like that they are improving but man.. we went from Lectron, to H-series, to Billetron, and now Pro. Lots of changes in a few short years.

I'm happy with my TBI and glad I don't have to worry about any of that anymore.

[Percy Rideout]

They were sometimes decent and sometimes bad. Mine would never run great through all RPMs no matter what the metering rod (which sucks as they're $40 a pop). Could tune for low but 3/4 would not be great or vice-versa. Tried 4 different rods and lots of depths.

The slide wear was annoying as it wore fairly quickly and then would start to run lean/weird. Both of mine had air leaks between the two cast halves. Top gasket was frail (looks updated on the Billetrons maybe). Grit easily got into the choke and you could feel it when pulling it up (easy to clean luckily).

I went back to the stock Mikuni (which most don't like) and threw a JD jet kit on it and it just ran better, more power, and I never rejetted for the elevations we rode. I think the 'jets itself for any elevation' is oversold for the Lectrons.

I do admit to not having any experience with carbs beyond the H-series. I like that they are improving but man.. we went from Lectron, to H-series, to Billetron, and now Pro. Lots of changes in a few short years.

I'm happy with my TBI and glad I don't have to worry about any of that anymore.

I'm currently on the TBI train as well and loving things, but time will tell.

The KTM's that came with a mikuni (2017+ until they went TPI) came with stock needle with too much taper. The JD needle as you describe fixed that. If you run a mikuni TMX 38, look up the graham jarvis mods on the KTM forums. A few simple mods that will really wake that era of bikes up.