Snow for the Euros.

[stuntmanbo]

Excuse me maybe I missed something but how is the Zermatt avalanche tragedy related to the IKON pass ?

[Buster Highmen]

Yes, you missed something.

[subtle plague]

And watches. Don't forget the watches.

They are are made of Gold, are they not?

[stuntmanbo]

Yes, you missed something.

Well educate me then ?

[Buster Highmen]

They are are made of Gold, are they not?

No, they are are not.

[Buster Highmen]

Well educate me then ?

What. like some American that expects to be served everything? What is this? McDonalds?

Sheesh.

But I might direct you to scan upthread for the nuggets of wisdom you seek.

[stuntmanbo]

Je suis pas américain.
Mais merci pour ta bienveillance et ta sympathie.
Gros bisous

[Buster Highmen]

Mais oui.
Ou est le "n'est" au dessus?

[stuntmanbo]

Pas compris.

[Buster Highmen]

Il est perdu? Tant pis.

[stuntmanbo]

You’re friendlier when you speak French

[Buster Highmen]

J'adore la France.
Mon Francais est tres mauvais (et mal), mais j'essayer.

[buttahflake]

You guys should get a fucking room

[Rossymcg]

If I go, I’m going to Italy, fuck you fucking Nazi sympathizer douche nozzle Austrian/German cunts. We know how much you love purity

very aggressive behaviour, don't cunt off your nose to spite your face. I must inform you that Italian women are by far the hairiest in Europe. Austrian und German are far better groomed. Last thing you want is a huge hairy minge in the sauna. It spoils the atmosphere in there

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[buttahflake]

Look at these fucking limp-dicks from Canaduh, 70’s Bush is fine by me, counts as one.

[Foggy_Goggles]

I think one of the Americans wiped his ass on the throw pillows

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[Rossymcg]

Look at these fucking limp-dicks from Canaduh, 70’s Bush is fine by me, counts as one.

I was also referring to the mustache

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[jackattack]

You’re friendlier when you speak French

comme les francais

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Yeah and how did that work out for old Benito? Not so good, he was always hated.

It worked out the same as it did for Hitler. You’re going to have to avoid a whole bunch of European countries is you’re trying to avoid a history of fascism. You’re giving Americans a bad name with your stupidity and ignorance


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[Buster Highmen]

comme les francais

I thought the British were coming, one by land and two by sea?

And, again, please don't quote.

[bobinch]

Well educate me then ?

I think it’s related to Zermatt now being on the IKON Pass, an American kid was killed and the prospect of eventual legal cases against the resort.

I don’t know the details but one of the victims in Zermatt was an ex-colleague skiing with his son (who fortunately survived). He’d previously successfully summited Everest among other impressive Alpine feats so was in no way lacking in experience.

And the funeral for Adam George, the guide (originally from New Hampshire) killed in the helicopter accident took place yesterday. Very moving send off and eulogies from the Swiss and US Mountain guide communities as well as the families.

There are GoFundMe’s for his (mountain guide) wife and daughter as well as for the girlfriend and 2 young children of the deceased helicopter pilot in case you want to contribute.

[subtle plague]

He’d previously successfully summited Everest among other impressive Alpine feats so was in no way lacking in experience.

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If you ski THAT terrain as a conscious decision in a 4+, you're most definitely lacking in experience or have a death wish. No matter if some sherpas dragged you up some clogged high alpine Highway.

If you just ski into that without thinking about it or don't have Equipment ( hours buried) like some of the other victims, you don't have any experience and shouldnt be out there anyway.

[Rossymcg]

If you ski THAT terrain as a conscious decision in a 4+, you're most definitely lacking in experience or have a death wish. No matter if some sherpas dragged you up some clogged high alpine Highway.

If you just ski into that without thinking about it or don't have Equipment ( hours buried) like some of the other victims, you don't have any experience and shouldnt be out there anyway.

pretty much how I see it. Not a chance my 15yo kid would be anywhere near that.
What's the actual facts? did they ski the face one by one that avi'd and gather togther below and remotely trigger it?did they traverse under it and remotely trigger it? did someone trigger it from above them?

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[subtle plague]

There is no official accident report. Just second hand evidence. All in one group in the video when it's triggered, long burial time with search dogs. And so on...

And most obvious: it was a fucking 4+, several villages were cut off because of the danger, you had 1.5m of fresh with hurricane force winds and a 40 degree+ slope with cliffs and a terrain trap. If that is not a Red Flag, what is?

[yeahman]

^^Totally agree. But... In North America, if you see a bunch of untracked powder under the lift or close to it, you jump in. It's been bombed, it's been controlled, you really don't think twice, even in steep alpine terrain if it's "in bounds" and "opened" by ski patrol. I can totally see a 15 year old kid doing that if he's not familiar with skiing in Europe, if he and his parents haven't done due diligence and educated themselves on the differences between skiing in North American and skiing in the Alps. It would behoove IKON to put some words of warning/education on their website regarding this critical difference in how ski areas are managed. I just looked at their site and there's nothing. That said, it was really up to the kid's parents to understand this and educate their kid about high-danger conditions, and at the very least make sure they all had proper safety gear. I would guess kids in Europe are aware of these things from an early age, but it is very different in NA when it comes to resort skiing.