Soft Snow Gymkhana - The Heritage Lab FR110

[Marshal Olson]

I ski Hojis and Ravens about 30+ days a year inbounds. I love full reverse. Even on icy days. Scrubbing is awesome.

My FR110 doesn’t scrub. That’s the issue. It grabs when you’re slarving a Hoji turn. I’m sure it’s the edges. They’re sharp.

Everyone I skied with yesterday was having a great time. I was like WTF? My previous day on the FR110 was in rain/slush…so the edges were less noticeable?

I’ll detune and maybe visit Profile next week.

Hey dude, firstly I am sorry that you are not loving them from the first turn. I have revised the standard tune for the FR110 mid season based on feedback and to correct for insufficient base-edge bevel on some skis.

I do believe that I missed the mark on the tune in the batch of skis that you received. For me, it's something important that I am serious about getting right, and super bummed that I didn't for you.

As Pretzel mentioned, Profile has the right specs and can get them perfectly dialed for you. Or if not for you, I'd love to make sure that if you move on from them, the next person has the right ski prep on them.

I'll shoot you a quick PM to confirm.

[ASmileyFace]

Do you have a sense of what run of skis have this issue? Mine are still sitting unmounted because Fedex has now lost the second set of pivots I've purchased in the last two months, but all of this has me a bit worried considering I am still in recovery mode from my accident. I'll double check the tune before I mount them up, but figured I would ask,

[Marshal Olson]

Given your injury, lets over-index on caution!

Easiest to verify would be to either use a bevel meter to measure the edges or just run a file at 1.5* guide and see if it cuts or glides.

Shoot me a PM and we can sort it easily.

[Upinsmoke]

My FR110 are of the first pressing(serial number 006). I believe smileys are too. Mine have no tune issues at all. Skied awesome out of the wrapper.

[kc_7777]

I just got a PM from Marshall.

He’s gonna pay for a tune at Profile in Whistler. Didn’t ask. He just approached me. Stand up guy.

Marshal recommended having them blank the ski, and set the bevels to 1.5* base and 2* side edge with a nice detune in the taper section and condition specific wax.

FYI my FR110 serial number is:

24152305 180V0 002



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[waxloaf]

That’s awesome! But I’m honestly not terribly surprised - Marshal’s customer service is incredible.


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[bw_wp_hedonism]

I think I’m on the first run too but would need to check. Skied great out of the box. But maybe I’m just not a good enough skier to tell the difference.

And +1 on Marshal’s customer service. Unbeatable.


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[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

I think I’m on the first run too but would need to check. Skied great out of the box. But maybe I’m just not a good enough skier to tell the difference.

And +1 on Marshal’s customer service. Unbeatable.


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lol you would notice. I am also not an amazing skier by any means and a .2 base bevel made me fear for my life.

+1000000 on Marshals customer service game.

[ASmileyFace]

Finally did the thing! First day will be next week.



Checked the tune as well and they are good to go! As always, Marshal reached out and would go above and beyond to fix the tune if there was an issue. So psyched!

[arild]

Holy hot boots.

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[ASmileyFace]

Holy hot boots.

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If anyone looking at this has Pit Viper pivots sitting around let me know. The combo would be too hot to handle.

[detrusor]

Mine have skied incredibly well…first batch I think? Didn’t de-tune at all.

[pfluffenmeister]

If anyone looking at this has Pit Viper pivots sitting around let me know. The combo would be too hot to handle.

I tracked down some Pit Vipers for just that reason.
Turns out, I preferred Senders on the R110s, and Pit Vipers on the FL105.

[SkiJitsu]

Almost exactly a year ago I was looking for a ski that could kick ass in super wet, sticky mashed potatoes. I didn’t have the FR110 on my radar but he just had a super hot weekend and this ski absolutely kicked ass. The best ski I’ve ever been on in these conditions.

The crazy thing is I thought this would be a super niche ski for my that barely gets taken out, but it’s been the ski I’ve taken out more than any other.

It has taken me a while (10+ days) to adjust to the more progressive mount (all my other skis are around -11) but it’s so good in such a wide range of conditions. Basically as long as it’s not ice, this thing rocks!!

[ASmileyFace]

Day one quick review. Will dive in deeper later once I get time to a&b with the sickle and in better conditions.

Bottom line: it felt like I’ve owned this ski my whole life.

Todays conditions were a mixed bag. Very firm chunder bumps, grabby pow stashes, edgeable groomers, and moving quickly into slushy with 45 degree temps by 1130. This was also the first day I’ve used my alpine gear since my accident ~11 months ago. So I was testing my knee out a bit too.


No tune issues whatsoever. I did a little gummie work on the tips before I took them out, but it honestly felt unnecessary after skiing them. These railed the firm groomers better than any reverse ski I’ve ever had. Easy to release on edge, play with knolls and drift. Never felt any hookyness or weirdness

In the most difficult shitfuck firm into dense crusty pow I was surprised that they didn’t immediately suck. Recovering from my smashed, compounded femur, today was a test of knee and ski… both held up admirably. The flex is great for those weird dense pow section. Excited to see how they do in more of that once I’m stronger.

In slush bumps they were magic. Fast and easy. Like I had skied a hundred days on them before. Slarve, carve, boost and find the curve into the next bump. It’s all easy.

I was worried I wasn’t going to like this ski as a tool for my recovery. I’m glad I was wrong. These are going to be great.

[Marshal Olson]

I’m so freeking glad to see you back on snow!

[kc_7777]

Heading up to Whistler for a few days. Dropping my FR 110 skis with Derek at Profile on Friday. Will report back after the tune!


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[pfluffenmeister]

I’m so freeking glad to see you back on snow!

This!

[arild]

Day one quick review. Will dive in deeper later once I get time to a&b with the sickle and in better conditions.

Bottom line: it felt like I’ve owned this ski my whole life.

Todays conditions were a mixed bag. Very firm chunder bumps, grabby pow stashes, edgeable groomers, and moving quickly into slushy with 45 degree temps by 1130. This was also the first day I’ve used my alpine gear since my accident ~11 months ago. So I was testing my knee out a bit too.


No tune issues whatsoever. I did a little gummie work on the tips before I took them out, but it honestly felt unnecessary after skiing them. These railed the firm groomers better than any reverse ski I’ve ever had. Easy to release on edge, play with knolls and drift. Never felt any hookyness or weirdness

In the most difficult shitfuck firm into dense crusty pow I was surprised that they didn’t immediately suck. Recovering from my smashed, compounded femur, today was a test of knee and ski… both held up admirably. The flex is great for those weird dense pow section. Excited to see how they do in more of that once I’m stronger.

In slush bumps they were magic. Fast and easy. Like I had skied a hundred days on them before. Slarve, carve, boost and find the curve into the next bump. It’s all easy.

I was worried I wasn’t going to like this ski as a tool for my recovery. I’m glad I was wrong. These are going to be great.

Hell yes! I had my preconceived notions about this ski even back when we designed it. Deep sidecut, shortish EE, no balls, but then I just skied it and had some instant connection to them. Super fun. Glad you're on skis, super happy you're stoked. [emoji846]

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[phil_dirt]

Why does the radius on these skis feel shorter than skis with a traditional rocker profile and a shorter radius?

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Why does the radius on these skis feel shorter than skis with a traditional rocker profile and a shorter radius?

My guess is no camber engages the sidecut faster.

[shank]

Fast sidecut engagement plus fat tails? The 5mm tip-tail delta is much less than most TRG approved chargers, that might account for some of the different feel as well.


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[Marshal Olson]

Why does the radius on these skis feel shorter than skis with a traditional rocker profile and a shorter radius?

I'd love to learn a little more about this observation, as I haven't experienced it or heard it put that way before.

The FR110 is a matched radius rocker profile, so you may be experiencing it's trait of engaging the sidecut quicker than a cambered ski, that needs to bend into its shape.

[Benneke10]

My other resort skis have a slightly shorter radius on paper than the FR110 but I get what you are saying, the FR110 can feel a little turnier on firmer snow and my hypothesis is that they are a little less stiff so I can actually bend them into a turn more easily. Just an idea

[J. Barron DeJong]

There was a podcast where Ligety said he was bending tip rocker into his 35m GS skis to make them turnier. (Like putting a permanent bend into them himself after he received them from the factory.)

Conversly, I find my 183 R87 Comps ski ‘longer radius’ than measured. I think thats probably due to their stiffness/my weight (180 lbs.) making it harder to bend them tighter. Love them though. The only cold-dead-hands ski I’ve owned. I’d be at a loss trying to replace with something else out there.