If only there was something we could do...

[leroy jenkins]

Well. Your mother wears army boots
and you're a poopie head.

Thats fine. As long as its not your wifes poop. God I'm sure I'd catch something not even known to science from the petri dish of whole sporting teams cum in her asshole.

[bennymac]

You ignored the poll because it refuted (with facts) what you were claiming was true.

Instead of saying “oh shit…ok I was wrong” you instead called it bullshit data.

So how about you explain, given that, why any reasonable mag should continue to discuss this issue with you given how you ignore any facts that don’t back up your personal narrative.

Why would anyone try to have an honest conversation with a dishonest person?

[Buzzworthy]

I haven’t read a word of this fucking idiot but I know it’s not worth reading. And he truly is a fucking idiot. Again, why even bother talking to him? He’s an internet troll.

[Conundrum]

The 20 years ofg data doesn't really back up your viewpoint. It shows a slight rise in firearms deaths, in the last couple years, with declines in all other causes. t shows it as pretty low for the 20 years previous.

CDan you actually say what you're claiming the data says, so I can tell you how you're wrong?

I did not mention nor am discussing any rise in the trend line. I'm saying that firearms deaths have been in the top three causes of death in children for over the last 20 years. I linked data that shows that. You argue that the best way for self defense is with a firearm. I posit that we should arm children per your logic. You then say we can't do that because it's absurd. I may or may not agree that it's absurd. What I do agree with is that your grasp of logical equations has room for improvement.

I'm also saying that conversing with you is good practice in exorcising patience and conversing difficult topics with dullards (dullard trolls included). Keep fighting for freedom brother.

[Art Shirk]

I am enjoying the obvious increase in typos to retroactively bolster the claim that “genious” was a typo instead of ironic idiocy.

And I don’t expect an answer to whether you actually believe that you and your armed group of Edward Hardys have a chance against the US Military or if my question was asked after you switched to trolling which conveniently absolves you from supporting any of your asinine points.




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[leroy jenkins]

I did not mention nor am discussing any rise in the trend line. I'm saying that firearms deaths have been in the top three causes of death in children for over the last 20 years. I linked data that shows that. You argue that the best way for self defense is with a firearm. I posit that we should arm children per your logic. You then say we can't do that because it's absurd. I may or may not agree that it's absurd. What I do agree with is that your grasp of logical equations has room for improvement.

I'm also saying that conversing with you is good practice in exorcising patience and conversing difficult topics with dullards (dullard trolls included). Keep fighting for freedom brother.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=number...7064d1&pc=HCTS

Yea, you didn't say anything about what your opint actually is. You just posted the link as if it spoke for itself. What point are you making? Can you actually say a point? I'll rebut it once you do.
Medical malpratice acounts for 4500 child deaths a year in the us. Which your graph omitsc completely. Soyea, during 2019 to 2022 firearms deaths in kids spiked to 2500, truly alarming, but nowhere close to medical malpractice deaths for kids each year.

Do you give a shit about that? Or is it just guns bad.

Never mind the fact that you're straight up lying, and post shit that is straight up lying ignoring thehighest cause of childhood accidental mortality in the us.


Again you fucking clowns are allowed to disagree withme without having to distort reality. You can just say you disagree and don't like guns.

[UkBCyeti]

(this current gun mess can be traced back to DC v. Heller).

Just skimmed this so far, Ted. It seems to me that the idea behind the verdict is that self defense is a right, and as there are people armed, then the right to self defense can be extended to arming oneself. If that's not a too simplistic summary, then I can see the point behind it being valid. From a completely objective stand point, everyone has the right to defend themselves and their property.
I see you point about hamstringing the majority, if they are in favour of gun control, as this verdict could have gone another way completely if the "right to bear arms" wasn't in the constitution.
Interesting that it was a cop arguing he should be able to carry in self defense outside of his job because his neighbourhood had gone downhill was the one they agreed had standing. Thanks for pointing me at the info. ::: ::: I'll have a look at those forums.
This might seem weird to you all, but I live pretty close to the border, and have had a more conversations recently with people coming up from the US regarding gun control, and would liek to be educated enough to have a sensible conversation.

[leroy jenkins]

You ignored the poll because it refuted (with facts) what you were claiming was true.

Instead of saying “oh shit…ok I was wrong” you instead called it bullshit data.

So how about you explain, given that, why any reasonable mag should continue to discuss this issue with you given how you ignore any facts that don’t back up your personal narrative.

Why would anyone try to have an honest conversation with a dishonest person?

Polls don't prove anything. If you think they do you're a fucking idiot. At the very best they suggest something.

[bennymac]

Polls don't prove anything. If you think they do you're a fucking idiot. At the very best they suggest something.

Back up your claim then you coward. Show us the hard data.

[leroy jenkins]

Back up your claim then you coward. Show us the hard data.

Contradictory polling data doesn't prove anything. You don't understand what a poll is do you? Whenever a poll says it shows what people think, but doesn't post the exact wording of the question asked, and the exact choices people had to answer, you know thye're pulling the wool over your eyes. Or ttrying to.

Multipole choice, is ciscos wife a, a classy woman, b a t rex. You could ask a hundred people that and they'd all vote one, because she's a human female, when we all know she isn't classy at all and is in fact a disease factory.

I did post data to counter connundrums lying data, because it wasn't just based on a stupid poll, but supposedly actual data. Do you see the difference or you need me to hold your hand and guideyour through it like a toddler?

[CarlMega]

Soyea, during 2019 to 2022 firearms deaths in kids spiked to 2500, truly alarming, but nowhere close to medical malpractice deaths for kids each year. .

Any interest in weighing societal good of providing health care to minors vs. practical utility of gun access where the side-effect is kids killed?

[Conundrum]

You can just say you disagree and don't like guns.

I think guns are rad. I own a bunch of them. I keep them locked up. If I go to buy another one, I'd be fine buying it from a licensed/authorized dealer but waiting awhile to take possession of it. I'd also be fine proving my mental capacity and proficiency in operating firearms once in awhile as a stipulation of ownership.

[Conundrum]

Any interest in weighing societal good of providing health care to minors vs. practical utility of gun access where the is side-effect of kids killed?

Bridge too far bro.

[bennymac]

Contradictory polling data doesn't prove anything. You don't understand what a poll is do you? Whenever a poll says it shows what people think, but doesn't post the exact wording of the question asked, and the exact choices people had to answer, you know thye're pulling the wool over your eyes. Or ttrying to.

Multipole choice, is ciscos wife a, a classy woman, b a t rex. You could ask a hundred people that and they'd all vote one, because she's a human female, when we all know she isn't classy at all and is in fact a disease factory.

I did post data to counter connundrums lying data, because it wasn't just based on a stupid poll, but supposedly actual data. Do you see the difference or you need me to hold your hand and guideyour through it like a toddler?

You post your opinions as fact and hope you don’t get called on it - and resort to logical fallacies as an attempted distraction when you do. We don’t need a poll to see how transparent your bullshit is.

Example of an opinion: the majority of people who interact with you on here think you’re a spoiled, entitled narcissist who thinks of himself as a “genious” but really is a sensitive thin skinned snowflake with weak as shit arguments.

Sure sure you don’t care what others think - but based on your line of reasoning I can just make the above statement and call it solid evidence that’s it’s true. You can try to refute it - but I’ll just tell you now in advance all your data is shitty and corrupted and wrong.

One more thing before I go - since the polling results showing “the majority of Americans do want more gun control” was posted you yourself have only provided one link in your subsequent posts - a Bing search about medical errors. So yeah - hold my hand and guide me and show me exactly where above you posted any hard data that backs up your claim that the majority of Americans don’t want more gun control….or are your arguments so weak that you have to resort to making up bullshit and hoping no one refutes it with data?

[::: :::]

Contradictory polling data doesn't prove anything. You don't understand what a poll is do you? Whenever a poll says it shows what people think, but doesn't post the exact wording of the question asked, and the exact choices people had to answer, you know thye're pulling the wool over your eyes. Or ttrying to.

Multipole choice, is ciscos wife a, a classy woman, b a t rex. You could ask a hundred people that and they'd all vote one, because she's a human female, when we all know she isn't classy at all and is in fact a disease factory.

I did post data to counter connundrums lying data, because it wasn't just based on a stupid poll, but supposedly actual data. Do you see the difference or you need me to hold your hand and guideyour through it like a toddler?

just for your clarity since the rest of us understood, conundrum cited data-backed research, not polling

[exsparky]

Any interest in weighing societal good of providing health care to minors vs. practical utility of gun access where the side-effect is kids killed?

No.

None of you really care that much about dead kids.

Not enough to actually do more than type on a key board or even come up with a novel solution.

I put up a viable solution 10 pages ago.

It would take effort instead of complaining, donating $20 and signing something online.

Nobody wants to actually do anything, they want to make other people do stuff for them.

What was the viable solution?

Build a small isolated 1,500-5,000 person town with whatever rules/regs you want and show how well it works and get people to want to move there and watch it grow.

Why haven't I done it?

See my 6th sentence again. Yah, you didn't even want to count to the 6th sentence.

[::: :::]

Cherry picking? It's been in the top three causes of death for at least the last 20 years. Maybe more.

https://www.kff.org/mental-health/is...eer-countries/

No.

None of you really care that much about dead kids.

Not enough to actually do more than type on a key board or even come up with a novel solution.

I put up a viable solution 10 pages ago.

It would take effort instead of complaining, donating $20 and signing something online.

Nobody wants to actually do anything, they want to make other people do stuff for them.

What was the viable solution?

Build a small isolated 1,500-5,000 person town with whatever rules/regs you want and show how well it works and get people to want to move there and watch it grow.

Why haven't I done it?

See my 6th sentence again. Yah, you didn't even want to count to the 6th sentence.

this is viable to you, huh? how about just articulating some data of what we've already done? would that be ok?

show how well it works

this has already been done (just one example of many)
states with "more regulations" have about 1/2 the issues that states with the "least regulations" have
& for leroy, who won't read the link, the stat stands whether you include 19yo's or not
thusly, the sarcastic thread title

[Flounder]

I think guns are rad. I own a bunch of them. I keep them locked up. If I go to buy another one, I'd be fine buying it from a licensed/authorized dealer but waiting awhile to take possession of it. I'd also be fine proving my mental capacity and proficiency in operating firearms once in awhile as a stipulation of ownership.

Seconded. I’ve also never been scared enough to have to walk around armed in public but if one has to, I’m fine with requiring extra training and screening for a permit to do so.

[leroy jenkins]

Seconded. I’ve also never been scared enough to have to walk around armed in public but if one has to, I’m fine with requiring extra training and screening for a permit to do so.

And I'm fine with not requiring it. You seem not ok with that?

[leroy jenkins]

just for your clarity since the rest of us understood, conundrum cited data-backed research, not polling

To which i responded with actual data that showed him wrong. But i also ignored his poll based statement that he presented as factual.

[leroy jenkins]

You post your opinions as fact and hope you don’t get called on it - and resort to logical fallacies as an attempted distraction when you do. We don’t need a poll to see how transparent your bullshit is.

Example of an opinion: the majority of people who interact with you on here think you’re a spoiled, entitled narcissist who thinks of himself as a “genious” but really is a sensitive thin skinned snowflake with weak as shit arguments.

Sure sure you don’t care what others think - but based on your line of reasoning I can just make the above statement and call it solid evidence that’s it’s true. You can try to refute it - but I’ll just tell you now in advance all your data is shitty and corrupted and wrong.

One more thing before I go - since the polling results showing “the majority of Americans do want more gun control” was posted you yourself have only provided one link in your subsequent posts - a Bing search about medical errors. So yeah - hold my hand and guide me and show me exactly where above you posted any hard data that backs up your claim that the majority of Americans don’t want more gun control….or are your arguments so weak that you have to resort to making up bullshit and hoping no one refutes it with data?

Show me where ipost my opinions as fact. Point it out. Should be super easy, then I'll admit I was wrong about something.

[leroy jenkins]

I think guns are rad. I own a bunch of them. I keep them locked up. If I go to buy another one, I'd be fine buying it from a licensed/authorized dealer but waiting awhile to take possession of it. I'd also be fine proving my mental capacity and proficiency in operating firearms once in awhile as a stipulation of ownership.

So you're rambling on about how you're a fudd and what restrictions youre' fine with. nice dear diary post. Are you not capable of responding to the data I posted that directed contradicts your claim firearms are the leading cause of accidental death for kids?

[dan_pdx]

Do breed bans violate the second amendment? Discuss

[leroy jenkins]

Do breed bans violate the second amendment? Discuss

HAHAHAH, YEA ANTI GUNNERS SUPPORTING EUGENICS. I love it. I get you're trolling me but you're proving my point you guys are fucking nuts.

[bennymac]

Show me where ipost my opinions as fact. Point it out. Should be super easy, then I'll admit I was wrong about something.

I guess you need me to hold your hand and guide you through this like a toddler since you’re unable to remember what it is we are discussing…

You said “most people don't support gun control these days”

You’re right! It was super easy for me to point it out!