Soft Snow Gymkhana - The Heritage Lab FR110

[pfluffenmeister]

Do, do, do you got anymore of them Heritage Lab Skis?!?

[cocoapuff]

Kim, whats up with the Swallowtails on the left with R110 top?

[arild]

Do, do, do you got anymore of them Heritage Lab Skis?!?

Got 113s yet? [emoji16]

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[Upinsmoke]

Kim, whats up with the Swallowtails on the left with R110 top?

That is the r120. Top sheet mix up

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Kim, whats up with the Swallowtails on the left with R110 top?

R120s!

[shank]

Kim, whats up with the Swallowtails on the left with R110 top?

I was wondering the same thing, first time I think I've seen them not as a render. Fuuuuckin hot.

[Upinsmoke]

Just got home from skiing my r120. Holy cow. It is a weapon, so fast I was passing everyone. So damp, just feels perfect. It is a sanouk on steroids. I will be selling my pow skis, cuz this is the droid. I have talked back and forth with Marshal about these for over a year now. They exceed my expectations. I already own the FR110, and design intent of the 120 was stable pow ski that can last all day. I see a use case for my fr110 that is completely different from the st120r. Cheat code for skiing pow these 120s are

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

The R110/120 is for sure my favorite of the bunch. I do love the BC120 though. Tropical vibes on skis tend to really hit for me.




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[Upinsmoke]

Neither one of those skis is the bc

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

Neither one of those skis is the bc

mc_roons post…..

[Upinsmoke]

Gotcha. My bad

[2FUNKY]

Do, do, do you got anymore of them Heritage Lab Skis?!?

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[Shorty_J]

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Lol!

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[waveshello]

Marshal is my drug dealer

192 FR110 & 187 BC120

will be out on both this weekend

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That BC120 profile looks a lot like the OG renegade--little more tip splay though, which the ren needed I think. I can feel the speed just looking at it!

[Self Jupiter]

schwing

[Core Shot]

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This needs to be on the next HL email

[K1mJ0ngTr1ll]

“It’s so good, when it hits your lips! It’s so good”

Marshal you’ve outdone yourself with these.


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[Skeeze]

This may seem like a random comparison, but has anyone been on both the FR110 and the Rossi Black Ops 118?

I currently ski 184 ON3P BGs Asyms on pow days and 184 Deathwish 112s pretty much every other day.

I’d be fine with just those skis, but what I’m slightly lacking is:

1) A ski that floats well (doesn’t have to be quite as well as the BGs, but close)

2) Is more damp in deep chop than the Deathwishes (they’re just a little light)

3) Is more fun on firm snow than the BGs (I can tolerate the BGs, but I generally don’t ski them the day after the storm when there’s going to be a decent amount of skied out snow)

Seems like both the BO118 and FR110 might fit the bill, although they’re clearly very different skis. Assume the BO118 floats better and has slightly better damping/suspension but the FR110 is quicker and pivots more easily?

Re:reverse camber, I’ve previously skied Moment Meridians and loved them in smooth, firm snow, but found them to be slightly hooky in 3D snow (very little taper) and didn’t love the lack of camber and subsequent lack of damping on very firm hardpack, but I wouldn’t be using these skis much on hardpack.

And probably goes without saying, but I’d always choose the build quality of HL over Rossi.

[PeachesNCream]

Re:reverse camber, I’ve previously skied Moment Meridians and loved them in smooth, firm snow, but found them to be slightly hooky in 3D snow (very little taper) and didn’t love the lack of camber and subsequent lack of damping on very firm hardpack, but I wouldn’t be using these skis much on hardpack.

I’d also be curious on this comparison, I actually just posted about this in the moment thread


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[kc_7777]

This may seem like a random comparison, but has anyone been on both the FR110 and the Rossi Black Ops 118?

I currently ski 184 ON3P BGs Asyms on pow days and 184 Deathwish 112s pretty much every other day.

I’d be fine with just those skis, but what I’m slightly lacking is:

1) A ski that floats well (doesn’t have to be quite as well as the BGs, but close)

2) Is more damp in deep chop than the Deathwishes (they’re just a little light)

3) Is more fun on firm snow than the BGs (I can tolerate the BGs, but I generally don’t ski them the day after the storm when there’s going to be a decent amount of skied out snow)

Seems like both the BO118 and FR110 might fit the bill, although they’re clearly very different skis. Assume the BO118 floats better and has slightly better damping/suspension but the FR110 is quicker and pivots more easily?

Re:reverse camber, I’ve previously skied Moment Meridians and loved them in smooth, firm snow, but found them to be slightly hooky in 3D snow (very little taper) and didn’t love the lack of camber and subsequent lack of damping on very firm hardpack, but I wouldn’t be using these skis much on hardpack.

And probably goes without saying, but I’d always choose the build quality of HL over Rossi.

I’ve got three days on my 180 FR110’s. I’m 5’7”, 170 lbs. Haven’t skied the Black Ops but here’s my take on the FR 110s.

Coming from many days on Ravens/Hojis/Renegades there was zero learning curve for me on these. Felt like I'd owned them for years from 1st run.

Re point #1 (float)…..I don’t find the FR 110 to be super floaty. Prolly as they are 2-3cm shorter than my Hojis/Renegades. I’m mounted at -5.8cm (rec is -6cm) on the 180 FR 110 and in untracked pow the tips don’t rise up to the surface, like say a Faction Candide 5.0 (which has wide tips like the Black Ops) or the Blade Optic 114 (139-114-132)? I don’t mind being in the snow, but based on their specs (135-110-130) I thought the FR 110s would be floatier. For an inbounds pow ski at Whistler they will rock as the pow is gone by 9:00 am. If I was skiing deep stuff Whitewater I’d take my Renegades.

That being said…re point #2 (chop). They’re awesome in soft, deep chop. Playful and powerful mix. These will be my after-pow ski for sure, to complement my Blade Optic 114, but when I want to be on drifty, full reverse. You can ski like a lunatic, and throw 'em and sideways at any speed. The driftiness is epic. And they motor over and through soft, cut up snow. As has been said above….the FR 110 do what you want, when you need them too.

Re point #3 (groomers/firm) I find the FR 110 grippy on shitty snow groomers when you roll the entire ski over to engage the full edge (Raven/Hoji style).

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[Shorty_J]

^^^ what is the mount point on hojis?

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[kc_7777]

^^^ what is the mount point on hojis?
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Hey Shorty,

184 4FRNT Hojis:

Straight pull @ 182.5 cm
Mount is 85 cm from tail (-6.25 cm)

180 Heritage Lab FR 110:

Straight pull @ 179.6 cm
Mount is 84 cm from tail (-5.80 cm)


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[Shorty_J]

^^^ not huge difference then.

Skiing k108 and bmt122 in powder last year made me realize how much mount point affects float. Those are both about -9 to -10. It's kind of obvious in retrospect, but at the same time you have to work within the design of the ski.

I think the conclusion that you have come to... day after soft snow drifting... is what that ski will excel at.

Different ski for deep fresh.

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[Whiteroom_Guardian]

FR110s getting the goods today.

[NW_SKIER]

FR110s getting the goods today.