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[CantDog]

Is changing to regular boost just an endcap/redish?

[Tailwind]

From superboost hubs going to boost?

No. Can’t be done.

You can take some boost wheels to superboost but not the other way.

Is changing to regular boost just an endcap/redish?

[volklpowdermaniac]

still trying to wrap my brain around the high cost i paid for 32 i9 spokes- when i got thinking - could i have just used sapim straight pull strokes instead? or any other equivalent much cheaper straight pull spoke?

[joetron]

still trying to wrap my brain around the high cost i paid for 32 i9 spokes- when i got thinking - could i have just used sapim straight pull strokes instead? or any other equivalent much cheaper straight pull spoke?

What wheelset was it? Are they the alloy spokes on a I9system wheel that thread into the hub? If so, that’s your only choice afaik.
They build some wheels with regular spokes, those are conventional spoke/nipple construction


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[volklpowdermaniac]

What wheelset was it? Are they the alloy spokes on a I9system wheel that thread into the hub? If so, that’s your only choice afaik.
They build some wheels with regular spokes, those are conventional spoke/nipple construction


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yep. hydra with bc360 wheel. :/

[Dee Hubbs]

Is changing to regular boost just an endcap/redish?

No, but you could (or have a shop) relace to a boost hub.

Lacing in a new 350 boost hub would transfer over directly.
The spoke calcs are identical on NDS and <1mm shorter on the drive side.
Reuse spokes and nipples.
Cost of new hub.
Cost of lace, true, tape.
Sell super boost hub.

[MCS5280]

Did a service on my Float DPS rear shock a few weeks ago. It sits horizontal on the bike. I'm noticing a tiny bit of float fluid seeping out the bottom of the threaded interface between the air sleeve and the eyelet cap. Not sure if its just residual fluid that was in the threads or a sign of something else wrong. Any ideas? It seems to be holding pressure fine and appears to be tightened all the way down.

[climberevan]

This thread seems like the place to put this. It's real engineering innovation in cycling!

TLDR: they moved the freehub mechanism to the brake disc side, allowing it to be larger. This also means that the bearings are farther outboard on the (huge diameter) axle, so that there is no bending of the axle. Stiffer hub=longer lasting bearings & fewer broken rear axles.

https://www.k-o-m.co.uk/xeno-hub

Peak Torque did a big, detailed breakdown.
https://youtu.be/qO6DUSKhbRU?si=dIqx-kYLkqStxLJH

[toast2266]

That looks really cool. Seems like a good, logical design, and I'm impressed they kept the weight as low as they did. I suspect the proprietary disc brake is going to limit it's success somewhat though.

[climberevan]

I was impressed. PT says their discs are super high quality and should be very long lasting, but it would certainly be wise for the early adopters to grab a spare. The cost is pretty nuts, but for those who want the latest and/or who break axles often, it's probably worth it.

[Dee Hubbs]

The cost is pretty nuts, but for those who want the latest and/or who break axles often, it's probably worth it.

Is the price really that nuts? It’s list for £550, so basically $700 USD for a rear hub and a disc.

Look at top of the line hubs:
$718 DT 180 (ceramic not fair comparison)
$588 Chris King
$518 Dt 240
$500 Onyx
$485 Onyx Vesper
$475 I9 Hydra
Add another $100 for top of the line 180m rotor.

[Canada1]

Scott takes down a 127 million loan. Why? Is this a survival / debt service life line, or a let’s buy out competitors in a soft market play? I read the press release and am trying to connect the dots.

[toast2266]

Scott takes down a 127 million loan. Why? Is this a survival / debt service life line, or a let’s buy out competitors in a soft market play? I read the press release and am trying to connect the dots.

I was wondering the same thing. The loan is only for a year, so that would maybe imply that it's more of a short term survival thing? If they were buying up competitors or making some sort of expansion move, there's probably not any immediate financial gains associated with that, so I would think the loan would have been something with a longer term.

[LeeLau]

I was wondering the same thing. The loan is only for a year, so that would maybe imply that it's more of a short term survival thing? If they were buying up competitors or making some sort of expansion move, there's probably not any immediate financial gains associated with that, so I would think the loan would have been something with a longer term.

It's a short term loan for liquidity

"In a filing with South Korean financial regulators, Youngone said it made the investment in the form of a 4.6% loan at the end of 2023. "SCOTT SPORTS SA plans to use this money loan for the company's working capital, etc., and will appoint a person designated by the company as the Financial Controller to manage and supervise the process," the filing said"

[toast2266]

It's a short term loan for liquidity

"In a filing with South Korean financial regulators, Youngone said it made the investment in the form of a 4.6% loan at the end of 2023. "SCOTT SPORTS SA plans to use this money loan for the company's working capital, etc., and will appoint a person designated by the company as the Financial Controller to manage and supervise the process," the filing said"

Is your interpretation of that that they're broke(ish) and need to make sure they make payroll, or that they're taking that loan so that they can free up other money for some other project?

[LeeLau]

Is your interpretation of that that they're broke(ish) and need to make sure they make payroll, or that they're taking that loan so that they can free up other money for some other project?

Working capital technically is for short term input and output. In GAAP terms its for less than one year duration. A loan stated as for WC would be for short term payables like salary, trade debt, lease payments etc. If it had been said.... general course of business, pursue strategic opportunities then that's more of a code word for other projects.

So it's probably some sort of short term (ie one year) bridge loan backstop

[Conundrum]

I’m not saying the following to start rumors as I have no involvement. Companies that borrow like this generally are stretched and they have a cash flow problem. They’re probably carrying large ARs and their customers are slow to pay.

[LeeLau]

I’m not saying the following to start rumors as I have no involvement. Companies that borrow like this generally are stretched and they have a cash flow problem. They’re probably carrying large ARs and their customers are slow to pay.

Exactly. Note too the relatively decent interest rate. Note also explicit call out that there's a dedicated financial controller for this. It means there's probably covenants (ie financial ratios Scott has to meet). Could be something like debt/equity this much, AR has to be this much, AP has to be this much, cash has to be this much.

You can probably assume it's also a relatively friendly lender. So perhaps not terrible for Scott

[Canada1]

Exactly. Note too the relatively decent interest rate. Note also explicit call out that there's a dedicated financial controller for this. It means there's probably covenants (ie financial ratios Scott has to meet). Could be something like debt/equity this much, AR has to be this much, AP has to be this much, cash has to be this much.

You can probably assume it's also a relatively friendly lender. So perhaps not terrible for Scott

So, my read is they have to much inventory out to shops that isn't moving and need to take down a loan to make it through. Not confidence inspiring. I'm not in the market for a frameset that has a hard to work on shock and routing through the headset, but I want hem to make it. There is so much of their product around here in Utah. Hope they can survive on the 60% off sales.

[smmokan]

I'm a huge fan of wearing the Camelbak Chase Vest for long'ish rides where I don't need to carry a ton - super comfortable and I barely know it's there. Has anyone tried out a larger-capacity running vest for all-day rides where you carry a bunch of stuff with you (tools, jacket, lunch, etc)?

[climberevan]

On full day rides when there's no water resupply/stream to filter I use a "5L" Osprey running vest that holds 1.5l of water, a jacket, a big sandwich, and a couple of other snacks. Below that I have 3 jersey pockets that can hold a ton more stuff. The bike has 2 bottle cages, pump on its holder, and 3 other bags for tools, spare tube, more food. Cargo bib shorts hold 2-3 bars on each leg. That's plenty for me to do 12h on the bike, and I'm good with that. No need for a bigger pack....

[Andeh]

I'm a huge fan of wearing the Camelbak Chase Vest for long'ish rides where I don't need to carry a ton - super comfortable and I barely know it's there. Has anyone tried out a larger-capacity running vest for all-day rides where you carry a bunch of stuff with you (tools, jacket, lunch, etc)?

I've got the Chase and Evoc Hydro Pro 3 - have been considering the larger Hydro Pro 6 to supplement for same reasons you are. The Chase breathes better but the Evoc has dual zippered strap pockets which means stuff doesn't fall out. I like that the 6 appears to spread out the increased volume between both the chest pockets and back, which means it should still retain a lot of the body-hugging that makes these vests so great.

[smmokan]

I've got the Chase and Evoc Hydro Pro 3 - have been considering the larger Hydro Pro 6 to supplement for same reasons you are. The Chase breathes better but the Evoc has dual zippered strap pockets which means stuff doesn't fall out. I like that the 6 appears to spread out the increased volume between both the chest pockets and back, which means it should still retain a lot of the body-hugging that makes these vests so great.

Hmmm.... I hadn't seen the Evoc pack yet. I may have to give that one a try. With the front pockets for tools and small items, that might be plenty for what I need. The only issue is fitting a small mirrorless camera in the pack.

I also found this BD vest/pack that seems to be a bit bigger and might fit more of what I need: https://www.blackdiamondequipment.co...15-backpack-1/

[Dromond]

I'm a huge fan of wearing the Camelbak Chase Vest for long'ish rides where I don't need to carry a ton - super comfortable and I barely know it's there. Has anyone tried out a larger-capacity running vest for all-day rides where you carry a bunch of stuff with you (tools, jacket, lunch, etc)?

Not sure which one you have but I have the Chase 8 with the 2L bladder and it works really well for me. I find it much more comfortable and stable than a traditional camelback with the waist strap.

[volklpowdermaniac]

Bought a brand new Marzocchi z2,140 from jenson in december for my budget HT build.

probably has 4-5 rides at this point. only thing i've done is added two volume spacers.
now doesn't seem to hold air super well. fill it to preferred 86 psi. 12 hours later it's at 82, after about 24 around 75-76. post rides seems to shake out that i set it at 86 and by end of ride it's at about 70.

i retightened the air chamber , tightened the valve core and used soapy water spray to see any leakes but none obvious.

is it just still breaking in? where else might i be having an issue.

i tried deflating the whole thing and adding 10-15 at a time equalizing negative chamber with each interval via 4-5 pumps on fork.

also tried bleeding each leg via zip tie method.

so far nothing.

headed for ride now but not super hopeful.

any ideas?