2023 College Football Thread

[The Reverend Floater]

Michigan State U?

Yes sir.

[altacoup]

He left 6 on the table and lost by 3....The other thing nobody talks about is what does that say to your kicker ??? Should he start going for 2 everytime and hope for 75 % success rate leading to 50% more points over kicking extra point ? Analytics would say sure but there is always a flow to a game and passing up easy 3 generally leads to bad things playing someone similar in output.
I'm a big Lanning fan but I don't drink the cool aid.

Chip lost a national championship to Auburn doing the same thing. When you never kick the fg, it certainly affects the kicker’s confidence. The mechanics and skill of being a kicker are pretty straightforward, the real difference between a god kicker and a bad one is all confidence. You’ve got to kick the ball under pressure to gain that confidence to do it under pressure.


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[altacoup]

Louisville lost to Pitt.. You still stand by your edit? Neither Washington NOR Oregon has beaten anybody worth half a shit at this point in the season. OK beat TX at a neutral field, TX beat Bama at BAMA. PAC still sucks and will always suck.

Just wait until those former PAC12 teams start tearing up the big12. Oregon and the fuskies will instantly be the best teams in the big 10+ after Michigan and OSU. Been watching a little big10 ball to see what the Ducks are getting into. Outside of Michigan and OSU the entire league is garbage. Anyone really think Iowa would have a winning record in the pac? And don’t even get me started on how mind boggling boring big10+ basketball is, pass pass pass runout the shot clock and play D. I’m really beyond bummed that the pac is done. The big plus is it will certainly free up some leisure time. I can watch fucla vs asu, but no way I’m watching Rutgers vs Illinois.


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[Toadman]

Yes sir.

I was actually joking with a work colleague this afternoon that Sparty could use Jonathan to turn that place around. But now, I don't think it's very funny.

[SumJongGuy]

Just wait until those former PAC12 teams start tearing up the big12. Oregon and the fuskies will instantly be the best teams in the big 10+ after Michigan and OSU. Been watching a little big10 ball to see what the Ducks are getting into. Outside of Michigan and OSU the entire league is garbage. Anyone really think Iowa would have a winning record in the pac? And don’t even get me started on how mind boggling boring big10+ basketball is, pass pass pass runout the shot clock and play D. I’m really beyond bummed that the pac is done. The big plus is it will certainly free up some leisure time. I can watch fucla vs asu, but no way I’m watching Rutgers vs Illinois.


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Ya beating Houston, UCF, Ok State is really going to be impressive. The new Big12 is actually worse than the old Big12. All their conference championships and national championship holders are leaving. How many nattys do the new members have combined. like 4?

Going from the old PAC to the new Big12 is actually a step DOWN. Are there any teams in the new Big12 that OR and WA will play that are better or even nearly as good as USC and UCLA are year after year? I'm gonna say a hard no. Your strength of schedule actually goes down.

[billyk]

Oregon and Washington are actually going to the Big10. Some other PAC teams are going to Big12.

I wonder how all the the cross country, multiple time zone travel will impact these student athletes. One of the reasons listed for Jimbo Fishers firing was poor record at away games, and some of the blame was placed on his travel schedules. He’d take his kids out of school on Thursday afternoon, fly to the east coast or wherever, and check into the hotel very late at night. They said he treated he treated his kids like pro athletes rather than student athletes.

[fatnslow]

What? Big time football program and their coaches expect kids to put football over everything and anything ? This might be the dumbest observation EVER. All they care about is maintaining eligibility..... Jimbo was fired because he couldn't recruit elite talent and figure out the NIL game and continued to cry about it when he was getting thumped.
You can't sell ice boxes when everyone wants refrigerators.

[altacoup]

Ya beating Houston, UCF, Ok State is really going to be impressive. The new Big12 is actually worse than the old Big12. All their conference championships and national championship holders are leaving. How many nattys do the new members have combined. like 4?

Going from the old PAC to the new Big12 is actually a step DOWN. Are there any teams in the new Big12 that OR and WA will play that are better or even nearly as good as USC and UCLA are year after year? I'm gonna say a hard no. Your strength of schedule actually goes down.

Since they’ve been in the PAC. Utah has been better than both FUCLA and the university of spoiled children. And yes the big 12 really is just Oklahoma and Texas.

[altacoup]

Ya beating Houston, UCF, Ok State is really going to be impressive. The new Big12 is actually worse than the old Big12. All their conference championships and national championship holders are leaving. How many nattys do the new members have combined. like 4?

Going from the old PAC to the new Big12 is actually a step DOWN. Are there any teams in the new Big12 that OR and WA will play that are better or even nearly as good as USC and UCLA are year after year? I'm gonna say a hard no. Your strength of schedule actually goes down.

Since they’ve been in the PAC. Utah has been better than both FUCLA and the university of spoiled children. And yes the big 12 really is just Oklahoma and Texas.

[billyk]

What? Big time football program and their coaches expect kids to put football over everything and anything ? This might be the dumbest observation EVER. All they care about is maintaining eligibility..... Jimbo was fired because he couldn't recruit elite talent and figure out the NIL game and continued to cry about it when he was getting thumped.
You can't sell ice boxes when everyone wants refrigerators.

No, it’s not the fact that he mistreated his student athletes with his travel schedule, the problem was he lost road games because of it. Anyway, it was mentioned as one of the reasons, out of many, for his firing.

West coast teams traveling all the way to the east coast will have an even bigger problem crossing 3 time zones rather than just 1. You can say, well the east coast team will have to travel west, too, but adjusting to jet lag traveling east is always worse than going the other way.

[XavierD]

Louisville lost to Pitt.. You still stand by your edit? Neither Washington NOR Oregon has beaten anybody worth half a shit at this point in the season. OK beat TX at a neutral field, TX beat Bama at BAMA. PAC still sucks and will always suck.

Pac 12 is objectively the best and deepest conference this year.

Washington has beaten: 6. Oregon, 15. Arizona, 16. Oregon St, plus Utah (should still be ranked) and USC. Washington is #1 in strength of record.

Texas has beaten: 8. Alabama. 19. Kansas St, oh and lost to OU.

The Big12 is a pretty shit conference this year, considering Oklahoma St is a win over BYU away from being the the championship game.


Utah is going to bully the B12 going forward so bad. ASU is probably going to boat race them too.

[SumJongGuy]

Pac 12 is objectively the best and deepest conference this year.

Washington has beaten: 6. Oregon, 15. Arizona, 16. Oregon St, plus Utah (should still be ranked) and USC. Washington is #1 in strength of record.

Texas has beaten: 8. Alabama. 19. Kansas St, oh and lost to OU.

The Big12 is a pretty shit conference this year, considering Oklahoma St is a win over BYU away from being the the championship game.


Utah is going to bully the B12 going forward so bad. ASU is probably going to boat race them too.

You are confirming my statement that PAC today is better than Big12 will be next season.

PAC teams can only beat PAC teamss, and the rest of the garbage that will be Big12 next season .. BIG, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 have quality wins across conferences this season. PAC has none. The reason Big12 swill suck again is that they only have 2-3 decent teams next year. Total of 4 nattys, maybe 5?

Remember the last time PAC and Utah was crying about being left out of the big dance then lost to Texas in their bowl game?

Give it 10 years and there will only be TWO conferences.. The writing is on the wall

[lowsparkco]

SumJungTexan seems to think Texas beat the 2020 national championship Bama team.

Hope you’re staying up late saying extra prayers they bring their A game to Atlanta for the SEC championship. If they upset Georgia then perhaps the argument can me made that Oklahoma was just a hiccup.

Do you any of you ever hope your alma mater, or favorite team, DOES NOT, get into the BCS?

I would have been a bit embarrassed if I was bullish on TCU last year. That program would have been better off to have been #5 and played #7 somewhere before the holidays than having had everyone in the nation watch them get dismantled. If Bama doesn’t show for the SEC championship then Texas may hope for the same fate.

[SumJongGuy]

SumJungTexan seems to think Texas beat the 2020 national championship Bama team.

Hope you’re staying up late saying extra prayers they bring their A game to Atlanta for the SEC championship. If they upset Georgia then perhaps the argument can me made that Oklahoma was just a hiccup.

Do you any of you ever hope your alma mater, or favorite team, DOES NOT, get into the BCS?

I would have been a bit embarrassed if I was bullish on TCU last year. That program would have been better off to have been #5 and played #7 somewhere before the holidays than having had everyone in the nation watch them get dismantled. If Bama doesn’t show for the SEC championship then Texas may hope for the same fate.

I'm not a fan of ANY games after New Year's Day. The Natty should be played at 8PM Jan 1st every year. And ya, any OK or TX team that had to scramble to beat 2-3 UNRANKED teams during the regular season doesn't belong and will get smoked by Georgia/Michigan/Ohio State.

[XavierD]

You are confirming my statement that PAC today is better than Big12 will be next season.

PAC teams can only beat PAC teamss, and the rest of the garbage that will be Big12 next season .. BIG, SEC, ACC, and Big 12 have quality wins across conferences this season. PAC has none. The reason Big12 swill suck again is that they only have 2-3 decent teams next year. Total of 4 nattys, maybe 5?

Remember the last time PAC and Utah was crying about being left out of the big dance then lost to Texas in their bowl game?

Give it 10 years and there will only be TWO conferences.. The writing is on the wall

Oh buddy,

PAC 12 went 7-4 against P5 opponents this year
Big12 went 5-6, which doesn’t include the likely runner up getting blown out by South AL at home lol.

PAC-12 went 3-1 against the Big12. The 1 is again, likely runner up Okie St beating projected 3-9 ASU, who didn’t have 5 scholarship offensive linemen.

Texas has a really good OOC win. No one is taking that away from them. They are good, and in a year where there weren’t 5 unbeaten teams going into rivalry weekend they’d probably be a top 4 team. But, those other teams figured out how to not drop a game.

[Hott Butt Mud]

I know I'm a homer and OSU is my team, but it really does feel like tOSU team is ramping up to full potential just in time for TTUN.

Treyveon Henderson is 100% and has been running wild. QB McCord is actually pretty accurate now. Then, the defense - they are legit. This team feel a lot like the 2014 National Championship team.

We'll see what happens on Saturday in Ann Arbor, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say Ohio State wins by 13.

[SumJongGuy]

Oh buddy,

PAC 12 went 7-4 against P5 opponents this year
Big12 went 5-6, which doesn’t include the likely runner up getting blown out by South AL at home lol.

PAC-12 went 3-1 against the Big12. The 1 is again, likely runner up Okie St beating projected 3-9 ASU, who didn’t have 5 scholarship offensive linemen.

Texas has a really good OOC win. No one is taking that away from them. They are good, and in a year where there weren’t 5 unbeaten teams going into rivalry weekend they’d probably be a top 4 team. But, those other teams figured out how to not drop a game.

Do you think the Big12 will be better next season than the PAC 12 is this season or last season? My main point is that it won't. OR, WA, UT, and OR State are losing UCLA, USC as opponents.. and the rest of the Big12 is losing TX and OK, the hands down only good teams there year after year.

Big12 and ACC will be gone in 10 years, maybe 5.

[GoldMember]

Oh buddy,

PAC 12 went 7-4 against P5 opponents this year
Big12 went 5-6, which doesn’t include the likely runner up getting blown out by South AL at home lol.

PAC-12 went 3-1 against the Big12. The 1 is again, likely runner up Okie St beating projected 3-9 ASU, who didn’t have 5 scholarship offensive linemen.

Texas has a really good OOC win. No one is taking that away from them. They are good, and in a year where there weren’t 5 unbeaten teams going into rivalry weekend they’d probably be a top 4 team. But, those other teams figured out how to not drop a game.

Here is the OOC records by conference for this year. Pac 12 clearly played better against stiff competition. Carry on...

https://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2...ord-by-p5.html

[SumJongGuy]

Here is the OOC records by conference for this year. Pac 12 clearly played better against stiff competition. Carry on...

https://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2...ord-by-p5.html

Good luck next season.

[lowsparkco]

Do you think the Big12 will be better next season than the PAC 12 is this season or last season? My main point is that it won't. OR, WA, UT, and OR State are losing UCLA, USC as opponents.. and the rest of the Big12 is losing TX and OK, the hands down only good teams there year after year.

Big12 and ACC will be gone in 10 years, maybe 5.

I think we agree about more than we disagree about. Whether MLB, NBA, or NCAA D1 football we’ve allowed the snake to eat its tail. It would have been advisable for a reasonable mitigator to step in and help them help themselves, but alas we don’t have reasonable oversight of what each are, monopolies.

Baseball should probably be 120 games max, NBA around 60 with only 8 of 30 teams making a playoff, and college football should be 10 games plus 3 playoff games, max. That would be easy enough to do with 8 smaller conference, forced to play their 3 non-conference games against other rotating “power conference” opponents. The conference championship would be the first playoff going from 16 to 8 teams and then three BCS games. But, we live in a world of very few haves and a lot of have nots who want their pound of flesh. I would rather see that rendered from the owners than the players.

[Mofro261]

Do you think the Big12 will be better next season than the PAC 12 is this season or last season? My main point is that it won't. OR, WA, UT, and OR State are losing UCLA, USC as opponents.. and the rest of the Big12 is losing TX and OK, the hands down only good teams there year after year.

Big12 and ACC will be gone in 10 years, maybe 5.

You still don't have it right.

WA, OR, USC, and UCLA are all in the Big10 with MU, OSU, and PSU next year. (UW will play all of those teams -OSU next season)

UT, CU, AU, and ASU go to the Big12, Cal and Stan to the ACC (wtf)

The PAC12 is now the PAC2, just WSU and OSU left behind.

[alias_rice]

You still don't have it right.

WA, OR, USC, and UCLA are all in the Big10 with MU, OSU, and PSU next year. (UW will play all of those teams -OSU next season)

UT, CU, AU, and ASU go to the Big12, Cal and Stan to the ACC (wtf)

The PAC12 is now the PAC2, just WSU and OSU left behind.

You have to remember who you’re arguing with here. We are only a few years removed from him dying on the hill that Alabama would beat several NFL teams. He’s the personification of Dunning-Kruger.

[SumJongGuy]

You still don't have it right.

WA, OR, USC, and UCLA are all in the Big10 with MU, OSU, and PSU next year. (UW will play all of those teams -OSU next season)

UT, CU, AU, and ASU go to the Big12, Cal and Stan to the ACC (wtf)

The PAC12 is now the PAC2, just WSU and OSU left behind.

Unlike most here I OWN it when I'm mistaken. Yes I was thinking OR and WA went Big12. BIG and SEC will be the sole survivors of the NCAA Football Hunger Games pretty soon.

Big12 will be a total dumpster fire until then.

I'll show myself out now LOL.. Until Texas or Oklahoma wins something meaningful that is..

[SumJongGuy]

You have to remember who you’re arguing with here. We are only a few years removed from him dying on the hill that Alabama would beat several NFL teams. He’s the personification of Dunning-Kruger.

I said Bama might beat the WORST NFL team; I've got my money on Bama over the Carolina Panthers (with Bryce Young) this season. Have you seen the Panthers play this season?

[The Reverend Floater]

What? Big time football program and their coaches expect kids to put football over everything and anything ? This might be the dumbest observation EVER. All they care about is maintaining eligibility..... Jimbo was fired because he couldn't recruit elite talent and figure out the NIL game and continued to cry about it when he was getting thumped.
You can't sell ice boxes when everyone wants refrigerators.

Jimbo recruited the #1 class in the first year of NIL. He just didn't coach.