2023 College Football Thread

[WWCD]

The dookies are losing their mind on the ineligible man downfield on the 2 pt conversion, but they got the call right. Rerun the tape, Lampkin was right at 3 yards downfield when the ball crossed the neutral zone which is legal in college. It doesn't matter where he is when the ball is caught.

That said, we were incredibly lucky to pull out the W after shitting the bed in the RZ 4 times. Shoulda been a blowout if we had finished drives and didn't get caught sleeping on special teams.

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Wasn’t just that play.
This missed interception hurt and there was a facemask call on about a clean a tackle as can be made.
Both ended up with UNC scoring.

[WWCD]

Serious question--does A&M call Urban Meyer?

I just hope they can’t tempt Elko back with huge $.

[lowsparkco]

I agree 100% but what's the argument excluding Florida State? I think those four are the best teams in college football right now but that doesn't seem to be the real qualifier. FSU is 10-0, though all their big wins turned out to be garbage teams. But it would seem being 10-0 is more important than the actual quality of the team.

Personally I think eventually a stand must be made for strength of schedule. FSU just gave up 335 yards of offense to a 6 and 4 Miami team. That’s a fucking loss in my book.

I don’t see how Oregon’s not the best one loss team? Only loss was on the road to undefeated Washington and they had every chance to steal one. They’ve kicked the shit out of everyone else they’ve played.

Must admit I was happy to see the Dawgs look like the best team in the nation for the first time since the TCU game last year. Made Coach Kirby Smart a little fiesty calling for y’all to come get some of the SEC.

My understanding is that the Pac12’s final championship will not be split up by the North vs. the South, but rather the top 2 teams. So unless Oregon loses to Oregon State they’re in against Washington which will give them the chance to prove that they’re BCS material.

[The Reverend Floater]

Texas beat Bama. If they're a one loss (Oklahoma) Big12 Champion Oregon ain't getting in. It's Bama that should get bumped in that scenario of them beating Georgia but of course Bama gets way more benefit of doubt points than Texas and Oregon combined. And ya, FSU is in over Oregon too..

Georgia, tOUS/MIchigan, Washington, and FSU could very well all be undefeated at the end. Who's the best one loss team remaining if one of those loses? It ain't gonna be Oregon..

This is a good question.

The obvious is that if Washington has a loss, it's most likely against Oregon State and/or UO, so they're out.

If tOSU loses to Michigan, then I think both of them are in the playoff. If Michigan loses to tOSU, things get interesting based on their incredibly weak strength of schedule. Michigan *could* be out as that one loss team, depending on that game.

If FSU loses, they're out for sure...that one's easy.

So really, everything hinges on two games: OSU vs UM and Pac12 Championship. This is assuming UGA wins out.

Here's another wrinkle: what if UW loses to OSU this weekend? It's a very real possibility. Then Oregon is playing a top 10 Beavs squad, followed by a top 10, one loss UW in the championship. Is two top ten squads in a row more compelling than one top five?

[lowsparkco]

The Big 12 isn’t helping their cause considering they can’t figure out how to interpret their own rules and choose an opponent for Texas for the championship.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see Louisville or Florida beat FSU.

Oregon State ends the season with a bang. 2 huge games.

Something has to be done about strength of schedule. Cream puff in and out of conference play is resulting in too many undefeated teams. Luckily, tOSU / Michigan, Oregon / Washington, and Bama / Georgia should clarify a few things. Or make it muddy as hell.

[BmillsSkier]

Something has to be done about strength of schedule. Cream puff in and out of conference play is resulting in too many undefeated teams. Luckily, tOSU / Michigan, Oregon / Washington, and Bama / Georgia should clarify a few things. Or make it muddy as hell.

For example, if Bama beats UGA in the SEC title game, what is UGA's signature win that they point to to get in the final 4? Olé Miss?

[lowsparkco]

For example, if Bama beats UGA in the SEC title game, what is UGA's signature win that they point to to get in the final 4? Olé Miss?

Exactly.

I've followed UGA football for 40 years, and we stood pretty strong about the strength of schedule thing. Historically, we always played Auburn from the Western side, so that was a hard game we could have fluffed. And we have done home and aways with the likes of Notre Dame and Oregon last year in the kickoff game. But, I feel like this year we gave in and went cream puff with the rest of the NCAA.

Bama beats us, Oregon beats Washington, an undefeated FSU and Texas who lost to an Oklahoma team that lost to unranked Kansas and #22 OSU end up in the playoffs? Perhaps still the best team tOSU comes out of it on top, but who did they beat? Michigan, Iowa, and whomever they cross in the BCS, maybe FSU and Texas? Good chance Bama would beat Texas 4 out of 5 if they played every weekend until January.

I guess everyone is waiting for the 8 team playoffs

[Northway]

I feel like we at least have a 7 team playoff this year. UW/OR, Mich/OSU, GA/AL. Win and you’re in, lose and you’re out. Don’t give me any repeat playoff games. Committee favorite for the final spot.

Dependent of course on taking care of business through the next two weeks. Beavs could knock off both UW and OR in the next two weeks.

[BmillsSkier]

I feel like we at least have a 7 team playoff this year. UW/OR, Mich/OSU, GA/AL. Win and you’re in, lose and you’re out. Don’t give me any repeat playoff games. Committee favorite for the final spot.

Dependent of course on taking care of business through the next two weeks. Beavs could knock off both UW and OR in the next two weeks.

Not wrong at all, and in years past I can't think of one instance where it didn't just work itself out come selection time.

As you allude to, I'm reminded of the phrase often repeated here that "the Pac12 eats itself" so it could be all up in the air before rivalry weekend.

[Toadman]

The obvious is that if Washington has a loss, it's most likely against Oregon State and/or UO, so they're out.


Here's another wrinkle: what if UW loses to OSU this weekend? It's a very real possibility. Then Oregon is playing a top 10 Beavs squad, followed by a top 10, one loss UW in the championship. Is two top ten squads in a row more compelling than one top five?

Let's hope the Beavs run the table and make things interesting!

[fatnslow]

Let's hope the Beavs run the table and make things interesting!

Luv the Beavs but let's not get too ahead of ourselves. DJU is very limited and inaccurate while UW D is pretty solid. The real question for the beavers is where they're playing next year ? If they end up in some shit conference they're will be a line of players hitting the transfer portal soon followed by Jonathan Smith getting poached by a power # conference team. NOBODY on that team including the coaches wants to compete in the Mountain West , Big Sky or WAC.

[SumJongGuy]

Never seen an NCAA investigation conclude anything DURING the season where the allegations were made.. But IF they did disqualify Michigan after they beat tOSU but before the playoffs wouldn't that be total chaos?

[Toadman]

Luv the Beavs but let's not get too ahead of ourselves. DJU is very limited and inaccurate while UW D is pretty solid. The real question for the beavers is where they're playing next year ? If they end up in some shit conference they're will be a line of players hitting the transfer portal soon followed by Jonathan Smith getting poached by a power # conference team. NOBODY on that team including the coaches wants to compete in the Mountain West , Big Sky or WAC.

1000% agree with this. At least it looks like WSU and OSU can split $320 million and own the rights/assets of the PAC-12, so they have that going for them.

https://www.fox13seattle.com/sports/...%20in%20assets.

FWIW, I was at the OSU v. Stanford game last WE. Great game to watch in person. Also, the updated stadium is awesome.

And that run by Fenwick was all time shades of Beast Mode. So glad I was there to witness that live. The crowd reaction was off the charts.

It would be poetic justice for both UW and UofO to get handed losses by the Beavs as a going away present. But, I think poetry is going to run smack dab into reality and it will take a bit of luck and help from those 2 teams for the Beavs to come out on top.

[The Reverend Floater]

Homer here, but I'll say this (and interested in other duck fans' takes):

This is the most disciplined and consistent Oregon team I've seen in 30 years. Yes, they incur penalties and make small mistakes but the level of effort every minute of every game is 110%. Their tackling is consistent, they rarely have blown coverage and Nix never tries to force anything--they're like a machine that just hums along, big game or little game. Lanning has this squad really dialed and incredibly focussed.

Combine that with the sheer talent and this team isn't losing to OSU this year. Rematch with UW? I think they win by a touchdown but UW is really good, though I don't think their defense is as good as the Ducks.

I always want the Ducks to make the playoffs, but most years I was thinking they'd likely get murdered. This year I think they can beat anyone on a given day (GA might be the exception).

Also looking forward to the B1G next year. If they keep playing at this level, I think they fit right in with OSU and Michigan, likely going 1-1 between those two. It'll be a tough gig with those teams, UW and USC but it'll be fun as hell. No question the B1G just got a lot better.

Here's to hoping!

[lowsparkco]

I think the Dawgs scared all the Ducks fans last year. I was at that game and it was a freak performance by a great team.

100% Oregon could play with Georgia this year. We’ve got some good pieces coming together right now, Our future NFL right tackle Amarius Mims is back. But, our QB is no Bo Nix. I honestly think Oregon is a top 4 team right now, but Washington might be as well. Should be a helluva send off for the PAC 12.

Any time Bama stands between you and another championship you should be worried.

It’ll be interesting to see where the chips fall.

[billyk]

The Big 12 isn’t helping their cause considering they can’t figure out how to interpret their own rules and choose an opponent for Texas for the championship.

Got to remember those rules were likely written by former football players who suffered untreated concussions while playing in their youth. The Big 12 didn’t even issue the rules “clarification” themselves through a press release or document on a website, but chose to “leak” it to a reporter. They claim that the rules haven’t changed, but clearly the “clarification” is different than what the rule says literally. KSU fans are a bit pissed at the new interpretation. OSU beat both KSU and OU so clearly they deserve to face UT (assuming they 4 teams win out). But that’s not technically what the existing rules say. Yeah, it’s weird.

I think it’s not clear that UT will, in fact, win out, given that we’ve just lost our best running back, who pretty much carried the team on his back, especially while Quinn was out. Fortunately, though, at least one Iowa State player chose to talk smack ahead of the game. Should be an interesting game this weekend.

[Dshack89]

Personally I think eventually a stand must be made for strength of schedule. FSU...

Dude, FSU opened the season vs then #5 LSU and closes at the Swamp. There are few if any teams this year with a harder nonconference schedule (what FSU can actually control themselves).

[SumJongGuy]

Dude, FSU opened the season vs then #5 LSU and closes at the Swamp. There are few if any teams this year with a harder nonconference schedule (what FSU can actually control themselves).

Texas Beat Alabama in Tuscaloosa

[fatnslow]

Homer here, but I'll say this (and interested in other duck fans' takes):

This is the most disciplined and consistent Oregon team I've seen in 30 years. Yes, they incur penalties and make small mistakes but the level of effort every minute of every game is 110%. Their tackling is consistent, they rarely have blown coverage and Nix never tries to force anything--they're like a machine that just hums along, big game or little game. Lanning has this squad really dialed and incredibly focussed.

Combine that with the sheer talent and this team isn't losing to OSU this year. Rematch with UW? I think they win by a touchdown but UW is really good, though I don't think their defense is as good as the Ducks.

I always want the Ducks to make the playoffs, but most years I was thinking they'd likely get murdered. This year I think they can beat anyone on a given day (GA might be the exception).

Also looking forward to the B1G next year. If they keep playing at this level, I think they fit right in with OSU and Michigan, likely going 1-1 between those two. It'll be a tough gig with those teams, UW and USC but it'll be fun as hell. No question the B1G just got a lot better.

Here's to hoping!

This season is a culmination of the last 20 plus years of uncle Phil's money buying greatness. Two huge factors -NIL being able to retain and recruit high level talent in a different way than previously allowed. Second, they REALLY dodged two bullets when Willie T and Mario both bailed on them and ended up with Dan Lanning. Best coach of the 3 even if he gave one away this year against the Huskies , win that one and they are sitting at 2-4 right now rather than 6.
Moving conferences is the great unknown since college football is one big free agency market and you never know who's going to open up the bank to greatness. Complain all you want fans but it's the current system.
Think about the next Bo Nix at another school, that guy probably is making more money than he would have made in the NFL this season as a 4-7th round draft pick if he would have come out last year.
Kind of funny all the Beaver nation folks complaining about Huskies/Ducks leaving for the Big12 and destroying the conference.
IF your buddy left his alcoholic , abusive, crazy wife AFTER refusing multiple attempts at help AND she gained 130 pounds for a hot ,.kind, smart woman would you blame the guy ? Blame the Pac 12 and all the inept presidents asking for way too much money when they had ZERO leverage.

[Toadman]

Triple A NFL, aka NCAA FB is going to be the ruination of college sports. You are going to have the same 10-12 teams every single year vying for a national title. It will get corrupted as hell and it will end up being a cesspool of haves and have nots. No thanks.

[fatnslow]

Triple A NFL, aka NCAA FB is going to be the ruination of college sports. You are going to have the same 10-12 teams every single year vying for a national title. It will get corrupted as hell and it will end up being a cesspool of haves and have nots. No thanks.

How is this any different than what has been occurring for the past 50 years ? Now at least the payment is all above board and the players can test their free market value. This idea that kids go to play football to get a free education just isn't true for many kids , as myopic as it might seem many, many kids think they're going to play professonal___________fill in the blank when they can't bust out of fourth string at a Big sky team. Don't be that old, white guy that can't relate to a bunch of kids from lower socio economic environments trying to claw their way out and make some money while in college. Don't pretend that that ANY football program cares about their players academic achievements more than their football skills/performance. It's not like anybody outside of 25-30 programs in the country are EVER competitive anyway.
The only exception might have been Boise State back in the day when Chris Peterson was there but that was a short blip.

[lowsparkco]

Dude, FSU opened the season vs then #5 LSU and closes at the Swamp. There are few if any teams this year with a harder nonconference schedule (what FSU can actually control themselves).

You realize that LSU is 15th and Florida is 46th in the nation?

Harder non-conference schedule? What about conference schedule. That’s the majority of your games. Is FSU still in the ACC? What’s the big show stopper? Southern Miss? No, must be North Alabama 😀

[XavierD]

Dude, FSU opened the season vs then #5 LSU and closes at the Swamp. There are few if any teams this year with a harder nonconference schedule (what FSU can actually control themselves).

SOS for the top 8 teams: 12, 19, 37, 44, 57, 58, 65, 77
Pick out Florida State (hint look at the back half)

Yeah, playing Florida and LSU OOC should be rewarded, but who’s on the docket this weekend? If you want to hold OOC against Michigan and GA who canceled their P5 games that’s cool. But the other teams scheduled theirs years ago and Texas/Bama is hard to top, but MSS and Notre Dame get some credit when you still play 9 conference games.

If folks are going to question Washington’s shaky wins (which is fair), they should take a gander at struggling to beat Boston College, Clemson and Miami.
Florida State has weaker SOR than Washington and Ohio St too.

[Dshack89]

Florida State has weaker SOR than Washington and Ohio St too.

Kinda misleading to claim FSU has a weak SOR when they are #3. Yes, they are behind #2 Washington and #1 Ohio St...but still.

I agree Texas @ Alabama is the best OOC game. But FSU playing LSU and UF OOC means it is not fair to critique them for playing cupcakes. It's not their fault Clemson and Miami are having down years. Haha if they could get out of the ACC they certainly would!

All this said, I think there is a pretty good chance FSU loses at UF. We'll see....

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[altacoup]

Bama playing chattanoga is just embarrassing. They always schedule a total cupcake right before the iron bowl, and it’s basically a bye week. All conferences should be required to play the same amount of conference games. The SEC has artificially inflated their records for years by only playing 8 conference games.

Not just Bama seems like half the SEC is playing middle Mississippi school for the blind today. What a joke to schedule these games at the end of the season.