To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[old goat]

And the billionaire who couldn’t make a good mp3 player and thought we needed an animated paper clip to help us write a letter somehow leapfrogged ahead of all known technology to develop a tracking device small enough to be passed through the eye of a needle and needs no power to run and is somehow individualized for 5 billion different people. Where is Bill Gates Nobel Prize huh? That shit is way more impressive.

Gates would never have been able to accomplish that if he had not first perfected the technology by vaccinating Africans.

[TNKen]

Symptoms?

Pretty close to the original variant. Fever, body aches, exhaustion, and severe chest congestion that doesn't appear to be getting any better. Doesn't help that she vapes.

[Toadman]

Basically... the mRNA work was done and the SARS (SARS-CoV-1) work was done, so all they had to do was pick the part of the newly sequenced viral genome they wanted to be in the vaccine. Moderna and Biontech were at that point of development. That is why they won the vaccine race.

But America lost the vaccination battle.

[XXX-er]

But America lost the vaccination battle.

yeah but they showed those fucking liberals

[bennymac]

[bodywhomper]

Looks like novavax booster will start to be available next week

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/novav...184001201.html

[Bunion 2020]

A little pissed off right now. Went in for my 8:00 PT appointment but my therapist was busy with some other patient and didn't start with me until 8:30. I had a 9:30 covid vax appointment across town. So I got shorted at PT then went to my 9:30 appointment. They had no record of the appointment and there were a bunch of old fucks without appointments ahead of me, 1.5 hr wait.

I have shit to do so I walked out. What is the purpose of appointments again?

[The AD]

I tested positive today, First time I've ever tested positive. I went to a concert Tuesday night so I suspect that's where I got infected.

[Hopeless Sinner]

I tested positive today, First time I've ever tested positive. I went to a concert Tuesday night so I suspect that's where I got infected.

Get the Paxlovid, if available, it works well. Hope you get past this quick in any case.

[riser4]

I tested positive today, First time I've ever tested positive. I went to a concert Tuesday night so I suspect that's where I got infected.

Short turnaround. Hopefully you weren't infected before that and weren't spreading at the show.

[SumJongGuy]

I put on a mask for the first time in well over a year yesterday.. At the doctor office I covered up while in a small exam room for about an hour with a tech and doctor. Tomorrow is the booster day and I didn't want to risk it at all..

Other news.. hearing more confirmation that the sweet spot for the rapid tests detecting the current soup is 4 days after onset of symptoms. Not going to even try wasting a test until day 4 of symptoms if I feel like I might have it..

[snapt]

Anyone in the immunocompromised category had the new vax yet? How long did you feel like shit? Trying to figure out the timing with work etc.

[John_B]

I put on a mask for the first time in well over a year yesterday.. At the doctor office I covered up while in a small exam room for about an hour with a tech and doctor. Tomorrow is the booster day and I didn't want to risk it at all..

Other news.. hearing more confirmation that the sweet spot for the rapid tests detecting the current soup is 4 days after onset of symptoms. Not going to even try wasting a test until day 4 of symptoms if I feel like I might have it..

Sample size of one here but I tested positive with a rapid test ~8 hours after symptoms began. There is no point in waiting 4 days after symptoms begin, particularly if you may need antivirals.

[PB]

Sample size of one here but I tested positive with a rapid test ~8 hours after symptoms began. There is no point in waiting 4 days after symptoms begin, particularly if you may need antivirals.

This^^^
Paxlovid needs to start as close the onset of symptoms as possible.

This is the vaccination thread, not the vacillation thread.

[The SnowShow]

So I’m on day 5 since I had that sort of rough Monday afternoon/night. Had a low fever, chills, aches and congestion. However on Tuesday I woke up with the fever and aches gone. I’ve only had congestion since then and have been testing each day (Binax), only getting negatives. Today I feel good. So I’m assuming it wasn’t Covid?
Here’s the other thing: I want to get the recent booster, but say that was Covid. What would happen?

[skaredshtles]

<snip> So I’m assuming it wasn’t Covid?
Here’s the other thing: I want to get the recent booster, but say that was Covid. What would happen?

You're gonna die.

[The AD]

This^^^
Paxlovid needs to start as close the onset of symptoms as possible.

This is the vaccination thread, not the vacillation thread.

Good one.

I just scheduled a telehealth call.

[SumJongGuy]

Sample size of one here but I tested positive with a rapid test ~8 hours after symptoms began. There is no point in waiting 4 days after symptoms begin, particularly if you may need antivirals.

Well I know four people, including my daughter last week, who burned through two boxes of tests over 4 days before getting 2 lines. You only get four free tests per household. Otherwise it's `0 bucks a pop. I'll take my chances. My high risk sister with Lupus would definitely test immediately and often.. but normal folks probably can wait.

[LongShortLong]

Here’s the other thing: I want to get the recent booster, but say that was Covid. What would happen?

Nothing extra.

The immune system is a fancy beast. The durable immunity from vaccination or infection matures over weeks and months. You feel better, but the immune system continues to develop its response to prepare for future infection. If the same pathogen appears within a few weeks, the immune system generally develops immunity as if it were a single exposure. This is why vaccines requiring more than one shot recommend several months or longer between shots. It's also why some argue the third Covid shot was extra important, as the first two shots were given a few weeks apart (too close in time). And why some recommend waiting a few months after a confirmed infection before getting the current shot.

[The SnowShow]

Nothing extra.

The immune system is a fancy beast. The durable immunity from vaccination or infection matures over weeks and months. You feel better, but the immune system continues to develop its response to prepare for future infection. If the same pathogen appears within a few weeks, the immune system generally develops immunity as if it were a single exposure. This is why vaccines requiring more than one shot recommend several months or longer between shots. It's also why some argue the third Covid shot was extra important, as the first two shots were given a few weeks apart (too close in time). And why some recommend waiting a few months after a confirmed infection before getting the current shot.

Interesting. So if it was Covid and I get a shot Monday, I won’t have my ass kicked more than I normally would? All shots have hit me fairly hard.

[bennymac]

But you’d be exposing your immune system to the same thing it was just exposed to (in essence - there likely is nuance when it comes to what variant you had vs what variants are covered in the vaccine you’d be getting) - smarter minds can weigh in here.

[PB]

General recommendation by medicals: do not get vaccine right after current recovery due to transient immunity from infection. Wait 2+/- month to get vaccine for extended immunity.

[The SnowShow]

General recommendation by medicals: do not get vaccine right after current recovery due to transient immunity from infection. Wait 2+/- month to get vaccine for extended immunity.

That’s exactly what I’m struggling with. I’m fairly sure I didn’t have CV but the symptoms on day 1 were bad enough to give me pause.

[SumJongGuy]

I asked my doc about vax for my daughter while already leaning towards the wait 3 months after recovering recommendations. He said A) her natural immunities are now already pretty close to the same as the vax offers.. B) the next iteration of vaccines will likely cover newer variants. so definitely wait 3-6 months.

[Core Shot]

I’m laughing at the vaxxed getting Rona.

I swear they said it worked. Stop the spread. Etc.

Also laughing at the masking. It’s back. Despite many studies that it doesn’t work. Yeah it keeps your cough and sputum from spraying out. But it doesn’t stop airborne virus from coming in

Carry on. Flame me bro.