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  1. #1351
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    Quote Originally Posted by vermontana View Post
    Beginning to research a set of dedicated snows for my Taco with stock 16" rims. I loved my Hakkapeliitas R3 (unstudded) when I had my Outback for long high country CO winter, LT3 version of these seem to be a good option and praised in Taco forums

    Looks like these come in 265/75/16 or 245/75/16 (current AT tires 265/70/16) I've read that some size down on winter tires for a smaller contact patch, any insight into that aspect or recs for other dedicated winter truck tires? Don't think I'd want to go studded.
    Out of those two size options I'd go with the 245/75/16. They will be the same height as your AT tire and just about an inch narrower.
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    Looking for a Duratrac alternative.

    Ive been running Duratracs for years on my Tacomas in 255/75/17 size and they’ve always great tires in east coast snow. About 4 years ago I picked up a Tundra and I’ve been running the 275/70/18 Duratacs on it, they’ve been good but not as amazing as they were on the Tacoma in our snow. Most of it has to do with the size and them being naturally floatier feeling and just not as much bite.

    I’ve been looking into some alternatives and I’m up for a new set of tires before winter. Any good recommendations for good AT or AS tires that will have better snow performance than the Duratracs? I’m happy to step down to AS tire if it makes sense. Been looking at the Michelin Defender M/S tire which seems like it might be a good alternative, also been looking at the Wildpeak as a replacement.

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    Falken wildpeak as you stated is a much better tire, esp in snow and ice and on pavement, not as well in deep mud. BFG KO2’s I had a few years ago were a much better snow tire than the duratracks as well, pretty much better everywhere but deep mud. I went back to a two season tire combo again tho.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vermontana View Post
    Beginning to research a set of dedicated snows for my Taco with stock 16" rims. I loved my Hakkapeliitas R3 (unstudded) when I had my Outback for long high country CO winter, LT3 version of these seem to be a good option and praised in Taco forums

    Looks like these come in 265/75/16 or 245/75/16 (current AT tires 265/70/16) I've read that some size down on winter tires for a smaller contact patch, any insight into that aspect or recs for other dedicated winter truck tires? Don't think I'd want to go studded.
    I sized down on the width for my Frontier. Exact dims as you posted from 265 to 245. The only thing I notice is the cornering is not quite as firm on dry pavement. Only real benefit to going slightly narrower is in actually fresh snow. Plus, you can't go wrong with a Nokian winter tire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magsrgod View Post
    Looking for a Duratrac alternative.

    Ive been running Duratracs for years on my Tacomas in 255/75/17 size and they’ve always great tires in east coast snow. About 4 years ago I picked up a Tundra and I’ve been running the 275/70/18 Duratacs on it, they’ve been good but not as amazing as they were on the Tacoma in our snow. Most of it has to do with the size and them being naturally floatier feeling and just not as much bite.

    I’ve been looking into some alternatives and I’m up for a new set of tires before winter. Any good recommendations for good AT or AS tires that will have better snow performance than the Duratracs? I’m happy to step down to AS tire if it makes sense. Been looking at the Michelin Defender M/S tire which seems like it might be a good alternative, also been looking at the Wildpeak as a replacement.
    I’ve been very happy with the Falken Wildpeaks, I’m on my second set. Got almost 80k miles in the first set. They still had plenty of tread but the lugs were chewed up from many miles of rough/gravel roads. I now run studded Nokians in the winter, but the Falkens are pretty decent in snow. Not the greatest on ice IMO but probably as good as any similar tire.

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    Wow 80k on those Wildpeaks!!! I’m definitely putting some on my RV trailer when I have the money for it!!!

    I briefly but didn’t seriously consider going a little narrower on my Hakkapelitta LT3s but I was concerned about how towing handling would be affected. But I’m usually running a 5000-5200 lbs rear axle in the winter when towing, and the sidewall on that tire is my only complaint, as it’s pretty soft and bouncy. I max out my Rancho 9000XL shock damping when I have my Nokians on because the sidewalls are so soft when towing heavy.
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    I have heard from reliable sources that it's not uncommon for the AT Wildpeaks to get 80k miles. Of course it all depends on your driving style and if you are hauling or pulling something.

    For towing applications, don't go narrower. You want that extra contact patch. Plus, in addition to better handling, you generally get better wear.
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    That’s great. They make an LT 15” size that will work beautifully on my RV trailer, which I regularly pull on snow and ice (and often dirt back roads as well). We don’t put a ton of miles on the trailer but the durability of those Wildpeaks is really reassuring. They will definitely age out before tread even gets remotely close to worn (just like the current Goodyear Endurance ST tires I have on there now).
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    Ill give the Wildpeaks a try, been on the radar for quite sometime. I got around 52k on my set of Duratracs right now. If it was beginning of summer I would have kept them longer but with winter coming its time to swap them out.

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    You likely won’t be disappointed. Just rotated mine and they are wearing really well, as in not a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    I have heard from reliable sources that it's not uncommon for the AT Wildpeaks to get 80k miles. Of course it all depends on your driving style and if you are hauling or pulling something.

    For towing applications, don't go narrower. You want that extra contact patch. Plus, in addition to better handling, you generally get better wear.
    Ah interesting - will occasionally be towing sleds w two place trailer. Go with the same width, slightly larger aspect Hakka option (265/75) in that case?

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    We had a Tacoma and later an Xterra, both used the same tire sizes - both could use either 265/70/16 or 245/75/16, on stock wheels and suspension. I tried both sizes on both vehicles over the years - around 15 years total. It didn't make much difference in longevity or snow traction. The wider ones seemed a little better on dry roads or dirt.

    I'd recommend just getting whichever size is less expensive when shopping.
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    if you have to resort to taking advice from the nitwits on this forum, then you're doomed.

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    Too bad you aren't closer to CO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vermontana View Post
    Beginning to research a set of dedicated snows for my Taco with stock 16" rims. I loved my Hakkapeliitas R3 (unstudded) when I had my Outback for long high country CO winter, LT3 version of these seem to be a good option and praised in Taco forums

    Looks like these come in 265/75/16 or 245/75/16 (current AT tires 265/70/16) I've read that some size down on winter tires for a smaller contact patch, any insight into that aspect or recs for other dedicated winter truck tires? Don't think I'd want to go studded.
    i would stud them, which ever way you go. There is no justification not to if you live where it snows. I was blown away at how well my studs did when I was in Montana especially when the roads got that hard pack layer on them. I just picked up my new studded duratracs and they are 325/65r18 which puts them wider then my summer tires but 2” shorter. I have zero concern with driving in vermont snow with those, but my truck is also pushing 8500lb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vermontana View Post
    Ah interesting - will occasionally be towing sleds w two place trailer. Go with the same width, slightly larger aspect Hakka option (265/75) in that case?
    He was replying to me, my nearly 6k loaded trailer has a 900-1000 lbs tongue weight and I keep a generator, Jerry can, extra propane, skis, jack stands and tools and all kinds of heavy shit in my truck bed in the winter …

    Sled trailer - I’d be shocked if you have more than 300 lbs tongue weight! Probably not gonna matter for you going the more narrow one vs staying at OE width.
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    Took Wildpeaks at3 off with nearly 60k and still 6-7/32nds…. Enough tread to last 70k plus easily, but were starting to get loud and I don’t like running rubber on its 4th winter

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    Falken announced a price increase effective Nov. 1st. So, if you are in the market for tires and are looking at Falken AT tires, then now is a good time to pull the trigger.
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    Pulled the trigger today on the Wildpeak AT3W's 275/70/18 $329/per tire all in with disposal in NH. He alluded to a get them now when I was inquiring if he knew about any winter coupons coming up.
    Last edited by Magsrgod; 10-06-2023 at 06:50 AM.

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    Truck Tire Time

    yeesh. I’m shopping and recently dug up a receipt from my first set of AT3W, Discount Tire Jan 2020 265/70/17 $120 per tire installed. $222 today

    oversized lyfe is spendy

    thanks obama

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    I remember when Wildpeaks first came out they were significantly less than KO2's / Duratrac's. I was buying a set of Duratracs for the Tacoma I had in 255/75ish/17 which were ~200/per and the Wildpeaks in the similar size were 140ish. At the time I completely wrote them off as a budget tire.

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    Upgraded the 275/65r18 winter tires

    The old nokian R2s treated us well and lasted 5 winters. They were like 230 a tire, plus install back then.

    went with continental vikingcontact7 this time. 194 plus install/tpms fuckery which was less than 100 more.

    Still running 275/70r18 Goodyear ultra terrains in summer. They have really gone up in price. Were cheap when they first came out.

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    I wonder if that VikingContact is a Gislaved design? Looks like an updated Nordfrost? I’m sure it will be solid. My General branded Gislaved Altimax Arctic P-tires many years back had incredible performance but poor durability (and suffered a tread separation while on a road trip to Whistler).
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    Quote Originally Posted by klauss View Post
    Upgraded the 275/65r18 winter tires

    The old nokian R2s treated us well and lasted 5 winters. They were like 230 a tire, plus install back then.

    went with continental vikingcontact7 this time. 194 plus install/tpms fuckery which was less than 100 more.

    Still running 275/70r18 Goodyear ultra terrains in summer. They have really gone up in price. Were cheap when they first came out.
    I’ve had VkikingContact 7 on the van for the past two seasons. Very happy with them. The car will be getting them this year to replace the worn Hakka R3 unless X-Ice Snow are significantly cheaper (which is doubtful).

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    Quote Originally Posted by SchralphMacchio View Post
    I wonder if that VikingContact is a Gislaved design? Looks like an updated Nordfrost?
    Does it though?

    I’d be shocked if Continental was outsourcing their designs. They’re a pretty massive producer of premium tires.

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