Lange XT3 140

[SoVT Joey]

I don't have the GFT liners but I use my really old and floppy Grand Prix Zips in my XT3's and they work great with the only issue being that I must have them completely unbuckled for the up or the walk mechanism will lock itself. I have a newer pair of the Grand Prix liners too, but the old ones (14 seasons?) just fit soooo damn well I always grab them first. They've been stitched back together twice by the cobbler but they still rock! My stock XT3 liners have never been used.

I bought a pair of the Corsa liners thinking the stiffer sidewinder cuff and leather interior would make the XT3 that much better, but they didn't work for me - I'm too old for that shit.

Anyway, the XT3 combined with my zips is the best travel / AT-capable boot I've had to date.

thread drift…. I was having that issue in my xt tour pro and the locking mechanism and put that GFT in them, I am able to walk very well with all buckles just opened with my two top buckles in the walk notches, zero heel movement, zero slip, no blisters. Pretty much cured every issue I was having with a quick heat molding.

[robnow]

Point #1 - stock XT3 liner sucks, keep it for touring only. Any alpine liner, especially the ZFs you guys are spewing are going to be a big improvement.

Point #2 - regardless of liner, XT3s NEED to be unbuckled to switch from ski to tour and vice versa, too much friction on the inside sliding mechanism against the liner otherwise and sometimes it won’t move.

[thefortrees]

Anybody know where I can get a hold of a replacement buckle, left side 3rd buckle up?

[waxman]

Anybody know where I can get a hold of a replacement buckle, left side 3rd buckle up?

where you at? does color matter? and is the aluminum barrel still intact so the bale attachment screw will still work?
if so i can send you something

[blur]

The number of punches across two states I had to get on these (26.5, xt3 140LV) was nuts. But I have arrived. Still numb after a bit, but they have only seen 2-3 honest days of skiing. Massive improvement over the Panterra 120 somebody fit me in Durango... (anybody want a pair for cheap?)

I really like the control I'm getting out of these. I was able to drive the Moment DW no probs on shitty hard pack this week. I feel like any issues are my own lack of ability, not power transfer into the boot. I'm light and average height though.

I'm wondering what I would gain, if anything from a true alpine. I can see the benefits of going lighter for a true touring boot (Zero G or something). After all these boot issues I have had, I'd hate to not have a backup of some kind at the ready anyway.

I noticed you say “numb” did you experience numbness in a portion of your foot. I purchased this boot, fits great, no hot spots, skis great, flex is good for me but my right ball of my foot and big & 2 nd toe go numb. Been working with boot fitter but can’t figure it out. Not nearly as bad if I am sling off piste or snappy dynamic short radius turns with terrain changes to absorb. Worse on grommers and chairlift.
Did the numbs go away for you, did you make modifications or skied them in. I’m on day 13 on them.


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[thefortrees]

where you at? does color matter? and is the aluminum barrel still intact so the bale attachment screw will still work?
if so i can send you something

Color does not matter, aluminum barrel still intact. Thanks dude, PM inbound!

[Judo Chop!]

I...I must have them completely unbuckled for the up or the walk mechanism will lock itself....

added snaps to the tab. a simple solution that has saved me many headaches...


FWIW, I use regular Zipfits for mostly-resort days. and the GFT for touring and sled-skiing.
I was able to basically run a short ways in them the other day with the GFT. I'm stoked.

[Norseman]

Love the snap. I'm copying that for sure! Thanks.

[oltrepiave]

might be pretty off topic but couldn't really find an appropriate thread.

In my quest for a "workhorse" type of inbounds boot i have stumbled across an RX 130 LV at a very good price. I don't ski inbounds a lot so i'm just looking for something that i can trash without worrying about consequences and while also protracting my beloved hawx ultra xtds own life.

As far as i know it should share the same last/mold of the xt3 series.
I previously owned the old xt3 in the MV version as a do-it-all mostly touring boot. Loved the flex, it was an ok boot but heel hold and overall fit was sloppy. Never tried the LV version.

Anyone can compare the rx LV with other boots? Some examples being Cochise, Hawx Ultra, Lupos, XT3 (mv).
27.5 mondo, narrow feet with Haglunds, skinny calf, medium instep, good dorsiflexion. Never had fit issues with XT3s length-wise so i'm pretty confident about sizing, my main doubts are instep height and cuff fit.

[justo8484]

Almost positive the RX shares the same last as the older XT 130/XT Free rather than the XT3. Tough to give you a direct comparison as you never tried the XT3 in the low volume, but the LV fit should help solve the sloppy fit you experienced with the XT3 MV. The RX in the same flex rating will also feel stiffer. Obviously I haven't personally seen your feet, but your description sounds pretty much just like mine aside from the Haglunds, and I happily skied in the RX 130 LV for several years before switching to the XT stuff.

[jackattack]

might be pretty off topic but couldn't really find an appropriate thread.

In my quest for a "workhorse" type of inbounds boot i have stumbled across an RX 130 LV at a very good price. I don't ski inbounds a lot so i'm just looking for something that i can trash without worrying about consequences and while also protracting my beloved hawx ultra xtds own life.

As far as i know it should share the same last/mold of the xt3 series.
I previously owned the old xt3 in the MV version as a do-it-all mostly touring boot. Loved the flex, it was an ok boot but heel hold and overall fit was sloppy. Never tried the LV version.

Anyone can compare the rx LV with other boots? Some examples being Cochise, Hawx Ultra, Lupos, XT3 (mv).
27.5 mondo, narrow feet with Haglunds, skinny calf, medium instep, good dorsiflexion. Never had fit issues with XT3s length-wise so i'm pretty confident about sizing, my main doubts are instep height and cuff fit.

These comments are specific to the dual core boots: rx lv last is not the same as the xt3 lv. The rx lv is narrower throughout the lower shell, except in the toe where the rx has slightly more vertical space based on my experience. The instep height and cuff will fit nearly the same as the xt3. I wear a 27.5 in both and the rx lv is a more precise fit compared to the xt3 lv.

[oltrepiave]

thank you so much for both answers.

btw i should clarify that the ones i'm looking at are the "dual core" version (should be the 2021 ones).

I also should correct my own mistake and clarify that the ones that I previously owned were the neon green Freetour ones (so should be the xt130, not the xt3).

At this point I might actually pull the plug on those, price is too good to pass up on them and i'd rather complement my decently lightweight everyday touring boots with a burlier no-frills alpine shell rather than going down the (Alpine Hawx Ultra) route.

Also I remember the liners on my xt130 being decent as far as stock liners go so that would be a plus.

[oltrepiave]

so i got them, dual core all-black version.

fit seems ok length-wise, cuff contour is ok for my skinny calfs, everything else seems pretty average. I like my hawx more but i got them for cheap and they still seem like the perfect candidate for what i need them to do.

have a lot of vertical room in the toebox, pulled out the bootboard and noticed that it does not run all the way to the end of the foot. Liner seems dog-shit, super warm at least and should pack in way faster than usual, i guess i won't need to bake it. Disappointed about receiving the 314th Velcro strap with a "performance" boot. Can't really seem to notice the Dual Core thing while carpet testing or handling the boot, will see once i actually get to ski it.

Thanks again for the heads up, this will be a good work-horse type of boot for lift-served days

[oceans]

Hi, I'm a bit confused, does anyone see the USP's between the different variants/models? XT3 Free, XT3 Tour Hybrid, XT3 Tour? What is the main difference between the Hybrid and the Free version?
Thanks :-)

[kid-kapow]

xt3 free (replaceable gripwalk soles) and xt3 hybrid (glued on Vibram gripwalk sole) -> pu shell
xt3 tour -> grilamid shell

Grilamid = lighter, but way less damped / progressive (on/off flex).
PU= damper, heavier - better in variable snow and for progreessive power transfer.

They all have different liners as well.

I used to run xt3 pro tours whose liners was no bueno, but then I came to realize that that boot doesn't really make sense - might as well go for something that weighs the same or lighter that tours significantly better.

I run xt3 140lvs most days out skiing, and they work pretty well.

[oceans]

xt3 free (replaceable gripwalk soles) and xt3 hybrid (glued on Vibram gripwalk sole) -> pu shell
xt3 tour -> grilamid shell

Grilamid = lighter, but way less damped / progressive (on/off flex).
PU= damper, heavier - better in variable snow and for progreessive power transfer.

They all have different liners as well.

I used to run xt3 pro tours whose liners was no bueno, but then I came to realize that that boot doesn't really make sense - might as well go for something that weighs the same or lighter that tours significantly better.

I run xt3 140lvs most days out skiing, and they work pretty well.

okay, thanks for the information. still a bit of an exciting model range. But will it probably have its justification? :-)
Hybrid still sounds exciting, but I don't know whether the added value compared to the XT3 130LV is so huge for me. probably not :-D

[SoVT Joey]

The free and the hybrid are both gripwalk soles. The hybrid is a PU light plastic and the Free is a PU dual. Pro tour is Grilamid. The hybrid is the same lower shell mold as the pro tour where as the free is based off the 97 and 100 lasts. The pro tour is a 9523 sole and the toe buckle is reversed. The liners are very similar between the hybrid and pro but the free is very different and more alpine based. All of the liners aren’t that great and I run zips in all my langes. (GFT, corsa 92 and a Gara stealth).


unless I’m doing a long tour somewhere, my xt3 140 is fine and if I do plan on hiking in them I throw my GFT in instead of my Gara.

[auvgeek]

Is the Pro 140 still just a 130 shell with a burlier liner?

[jackattack]

Is the Pro 140 still just a 130 shell with a burlier liner?

Basically. It also has a cam strap and a cuff extension iirc.

[Judo Chop!]

The free and the hybrid are both gripwalk soles. The hybrid is a PU light plastic and the Free is a PU dual. Pro tour is Grilamid. The hybrid is the same lower shell mold as the pro tour where as the free is based off the 97 and 100 lasts.

Help me understand the Hybrid.

so.. for those of us who swap liners (so call that equal for all three options), has anyone got any comments on the ski-feel of hybrid vs free, given the slightly different plastics?

Looking at the specs, there isn't a significant weight advantage for the hybrid. However, I'm not sure how the different stock liners affect that. anyone know more?

I can't see what significant advantage the Hybrid has over the Free. It seems like it's just the sole, without a weight or function benefit. Is it a fit thing (though the free comes in both LV&MV...soo ?)? Not much info out there about it.
I can't imagine why they built 3 models here, instead of just adding the grip walk slider onto the Tour and kept it to 2.

ultimately what I think I want is the weight/plastics of the Tour version, with the grip walk-option sole of the hybrid.
Currently have xt3freeLV, but in reality I'm a MV fit. If I was replacing today I'd be confused between the xt3freeMV and the Hybrid. ...or would I get a Tigard?

[Lurch]

I picked up the XT3 Free 140 LV this week. They fit pretty well out of the box but I still want to mold them. I am seeing conflicting information on if the world cup liner with the cork ankle pocket and the Dual Core shell are moldable using traditional at home methods. What have you all done for your initial fit?

[east or bust]

Didn’t do anything in mine other than footbeds. Probably have 15-20 days on them and they are damn comfy.


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[SoVT Joey]

I picked up the XT3 Free 140 LV this week. They fit pretty well out of the box but I still want to mold them. I am seeing conflicting information on if the world cup liner with the cork ankle pocket and the Dual Core shell are moldable using traditional at home methods. What have you all done for your initial fit?

Zipfits.

[Lurch]

Zipfits.

I am Zipfit curious but I don’t think I need the 400 - 500 upgrade over the stock liners just yet.


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[east or bust]

I am Zipfit curious but I don’t think I need the 400 - 500 upgrade over the stock liners just yet.

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I’d tend to agree. At least try them first. They are way nicer than the liners that came in my RX130s.