Tipflation?!?!

[old goat]

One of the best vacations we've had was in the Netherlands. Lovely people. We were there on Queen's Day and the Dutch definitely know how to party. OTOH, because so many millions flood Amsterdam for the holiday they print maps telling people which side of the streets to walk in which direction--and people do it. We didn't tip while we were there.

[Jax]

remember when your buddy would make brownies out of god-only-knows what and you'd eat one and lose a whole day to sloth?

This just brought back a hilarious but foggy memory from decades ago, thanks for that. I'm a sucker for my friend's banana bread but didn't know until after I mowed down a super thick slice that I ate the 'special version', enough for 4 people. Everyone else was laughing their asses off about what was to come. 8am in a ski lot parking lot. The rest of my day shall be filed under stoner moves...

[oldnew_guy]

Tipping is a norm in the United States. But it hasn't always been this way. It's a legacy of slavery and racism and took off in the post-Civil War era. Almost immediately, the idea was challenged by reformers who argued that tipping was exploitative and allowed companies to take advantage of workers by getting away with paying them low or no wages at all.


The case against tipping was captured in William Rufus Scott's 1916 anti-tipping polemic, The Itching Palm, a book that railed against the practice and its negative impacts on society. The movement had momentum: anti-tipping associations were formed and anti-tipping laws passed. Yet, tipping held on to its place in American culture and the anti-tipping movement failed to eradicate it. We still tip today and, for some, this remains a contentious issue.


Tipping began in the Middle Ages in Europe when people lived under the feudal system. There were masters and servants, and there were tips. Servants would perform their duties and be given some pocket change in return. This was still custom in the 18th century and transitioned from masters and servants to customers and service industry workers.


NINA MARTYRIS: Until the Civil War in America, there was no tipping. It was a European thing. But then Americans began to travel to Europe and brought this custom back. At the same time, immigrants were coming to America by the boatload from Europe, most of them poor, [and] had been working in Europe and were used to the tipping system. So in every way it was seen as a European import and there was huge opposition to it, because of its feudal nature.


RAMTIN ARABLOUEI: What was the principal argument against it in the 1800s? Why did some people find it distasteful?


MARTYRIS: They found it distasteful and un-American because it was feudal. And when you give a tip, you establish a class system. By tipping somebody, you rendered him your inferior, your moral inferior, your class inferior, your social and economic inferior. So it was a caste bound system and it was an old world custom and it reeked of feudalism. It was called servile and it was called a bribe. It was called a moral malady. It was called blackmail. It was called flunkeyism. People railed against it.


MARTYRIS: But guess what? Restaurant workers weren't included. And so it became law that the restaurant owners do not have to pay twenty five cents an hour. They excluded them from the minimum wage. And that kind of codified the fact that you're paying your workers only through tips. And then tips became legal. The law had taken them into account in 1938 by excluding restaurant workers. That's sort of the nail in the coffin for ever getting a fair wage.


ABDELFATAH: There's something striking to me about the fact that the minimum wage coming into the picture sort of shifts attention away from tipping. I mean, that's what it sounds like. It sounds like suddenly this debate that had been going on for decades at that point in American life is sidelined by the fact that suddenly you have this new thing, a minimum wage coming onto the scene. I wonder how you see those two histories interacting in that moment?


MARTYRIS: You've created a two-tier system among your workforce. And I think that was the beginning of the rot, which we are paying a price for till today.

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/22/98004...and-of-the-fee

The irony is that, though Americans imported the tipping custom from Europe, countries such as France have long done away with tipping: A 15 percent service charge is automatically added to the bill, and customers aren't obliged to tip. As a result, a French schoolgirl visiting the U.S. might find herself, like Maisie, curiously eyeing the "tip" in the billfold.


https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt...2DAmerican.%22

[californiagrown]

This just brought back a hilarious but foggy memory from decades ago, thanks for that. I'm a sucker for my friend's banana bread but didn't know until after I mowed down a super thick slice that I ate the 'special version', enough for 4 people. Everyone else was laughing their asses off about what was to come. 8am in a ski lot parking lot. The rest of my day shall be filed under stoner moves...

The good old days when an edible's strength was measured by how much weed was put into the butter and it was always a bit of a crapshoot as to how high you were going to get.

[AK47bp]

I ate a brownie on a Saturday once and had to call off work Monday because I was still too high. Not even kidding.

[riser4]

This just brought back a hilarious but foggy memory from decades ago, thanks for that. I'm a sucker for my friend's banana bread but didn't know until after I mowed down a super thick slice that I ate the 'special version', enough for 4 people. Everyone else was laughing their asses off about what was to come. 8am in a ski lot parking lot. The rest of my day shall be filed under stoner moves...

Whoahoahoah...

[old goat]

When I was in med school I sublet my apartment to a young woman (who apparently entertained different gentlemen every night). She decided to leave me chocolate cookies in lieu of cleaning the place. My neighbor across the hall, who managed the little 3 apartment house, cleaned and took the cookies as a reward. She was cannabis naive. The cookies weren't. She ate them all at one sitting. She had a rough day.

[Mazderati]

The rest of my day shall be filed under stoner moves...

Sounds like a transition from stoner moves to stoner stupor.

[yeahman]

The good old days when an edible's strength was measured by how much weed was put into the butter and it was always a bit of a crapshoot as to how high you were going to get.

Never tried putting weed in butter, do tell how it's done! [emoji38]

[californiagrown]

Never tried putting weed in butter, do tell how it's done! [emoji38]

Wait, really? Thats how all our edibles were made... putting ground weed into some kind of hot fat/oil, straining the weed out and then using the butter/oil as called for in a normal recipe. Popcorn, cookies, brownies, alfredo, etc.

[Buzzworthy]

Wait, really? Thats how all our edibles were made... putting ground weed into some kind of hot fat/oil, straining the weed out and then using the butter/oil as called for in a normal recipe. Popcorn, cookies, brownies, alfredo, etc.

Yup, and I still do this on occasion

[yeahman]

Wait, really? Thats how all our edibles were made... putting ground weed into some kind of hot fat/oil, straining the weed out and then using the butter/oil as called for in a normal recipe. Popcorn, cookies, brownies, alfredo, etc.

That's crazy man. I actually thought it was just a typo and you meant 'batter.' As you can tell I've never made edibles..

I thought people just mixed the weed right in.

[Buzzworthy]

That's crazy man. I actually thought it was just a typo and you meant 'batter.' As you can tell I've never made edibles..

I thought people just mixed the weed right in.

Gotta decarb the weed first to convert the thc-a to thc before you eat it.
I do it in a crock pot like here:
https://youtu.be/aKJhdFuMzno

[Buzzworthy]

And the decarb process makes your whole house smell like I’ve been there for weeks.

[Jax]

That's crazy man. I actually thought it was just a typo and you meant 'batter.' As you can tell I've never made edibles..

I thought people just mixed the weed right in.

Cannabutter man, righteous stuff.

Sounds like a transition from stoner moves to stoner stupor.

Most definitely.

[skaredshtles]

This just brought back a hilarious but foggy memory from decades ago, thanks for that. I'm a sucker for my friend's banana bread but didn't know until after I mowed down a super thick slice that I ate the 'special version', enough for 4 people. Everyone else was laughing their asses off about what was to come. 8am in a ski lot parking lot. The rest of my day shall be filed under stoner moves...

My buddy brought brownies once on a trip to Jackson... we ate one for "dessert" after lunch at the Moose... fuckers hit about 1/2 way down Middle Hoback. Holy shit - I had to sit down and contemplate whether or not I was going to make it the rest of the way back to the base.

Then we went out for dinner at Corsa and proceeded to cackle endlessly about my buddy's pizza that came out with about 1/2 pound of arugula on top.

[skaredshtles]

Wait, really? Thats how all our edibles were made... putting ground weed into some kind of hot fat/oil, straining the weed out and then using the butter/oil as called for in a normal recipe. Popcorn, cookies, brownies, alfredo, etc.

I've got about 2lbs of unknown-strength cannabutter in my freezer downstairs. I should make some brownies some time.

[Jax]

Salad on a pizza could be it's own thread, we've got a place here that does that with arugula, too...funny shit.

Definitely not tipping the pizza makers for that one.

[skaredshtles]

Salad on a pizza could be it's own thread, we've got a place here that does that with arugula, too...funny shit.

Definitely not tipping the pizza makers for that one.

I mean... it was on the menu, so the presence of weeds wasn't a surprise. But the volume was fuckin' HILARIOUS to our weed-addled brains.

[californiagrown]

I've got about 2lbs of unknown-strength cannabutter in my freezer downstairs. I should make some brownies some time.

Think outside the box my man. a nice butter basted steak, a flakey pastry, maybe even some mac n cheese!

[skaredshtles]

Think outside the box my man. a nice butter basted steak, a flakey pastry, maybe even some mac n cheese!

You know... it's in flat sheets... cannacroissants might be just the ticket.

Wait. Wild mushroom ragu with it. That might be fuckin' spectacular!

[californiagrown]

You know... it's in flat sheets... cannacroissants might be just the ticket.

Wait. Wild mushroom ragu with it. That might be fuckin' spectacular!

[Bunion 2020]

Way OT. I bought a 1/4 lb of some nice Colombian (1978) and decided to make an edible to go see the movie FM. Took a nice fat bud and de-deeded it then de-carbed it and sprinkled the entire mess onto a fat PBJ sammy which I then ate. Holy shit that was 45 years ago.

Went to the movie and about 1/3 way through I had to walk out as everything was way too over stimulating.

I did not tip.

[XXX-er]

A quad buddy asked me to make him his brownies cuz he couldn't, he said don't bother with butter his recipe was a 1/4oz in a 9" pan with a box of generic brownie mix. I would powder it up in a coffee bean grinder and mix well so there were no hot spots, cut into 36 pieces each one a very consistant high which I found ideal for skiing cuz no dealing with joints, they didnt hit for an hr usually in the middle of a turn but you already got your boots on and your shit togetehr

So I ate one and give one to ski bro, on top of that he is smoking pot all the way up the hill, 1 1/2 hrs later he sez he is really fucked up inferring I slipped him a hot brownie ?

"no I'm just fucked up to a normal level cuz i didnt smoke any pot like you did, you are an anesthetist what don't you understand about dosage levels ? "

[Woodsy]

few thoughts on tipping based on my most recent trip, including a bit of where I am coming from living on and next to gratuities for 30 + years. Know most of you dental professionals may not relate...

Not to break up the education from the old school about times before edibles were made for you ( in addition to coffee grinders, strainers, for weed cookery etc we used to roll our own joints too....)
ANyhoo since I feel my take has been possibly misunderstood, and definitely misconstrued, I dont think anyone should get a tip for just being a cashier and performing no other service. More on that in a minute.

SO driving up to Boston for a work event. When I pull in the driveway my man Jackson is there to valet the car and pull my suitcase out of the back. He gets a few bucks. I made my living senior year in college ( literally my living, anything beyond school and books came from tips) parking cars at a local hotel/ resort in Palm Springs.
Go inside, check in. DOnt tip the Desk person, even though I used to get annoyed in my younger days @ the Front Desk in Aspen whan my roommate and other Bellmen would walk with $100s and I got fuck all aside from $10 an hour, a pass and occasional thank you cigars and bottles of wine from repeat guests... Of course you can imagine a higher end Hotel in A town people traveled heavy, no one roller bag here. Plus half the guests had shit shipped out Leroy or others would have to get from receiving and take to their rooms or the ski shop where we kept gear.

So after welcoming and charming my clients pre dinner we arranged in a private room ( reason I was there) I went to eat on my own at the nice restaurant at the hotel, at the bar; natch.
After a nice cocktail ( reposado and CHaretruse base, yum) I had a few apps and a glass of wine. Paid with a card but tipped the bartender 20% in cash ( moved the decimal on the total, doubled it and rounded up to nearest bill #)
After dinner walked over to Trillium to get some good beer to take home. got my 4 packs and had the girl there give me a can pour since I was there. Nice job, but no tip for her. Hung out on the outside area and finished my tasty beer. There was a kid clearing glasses from all the outside tables and barrels. KNowing everyone ordered from the bar and noone was leaving tips on the tables I gave him a $5. I mean we was making the place more enjoyable. Reinforcing good things, see Pavlov & Skinner,...

checked out the next day.

Left $5 for the housekeeper and a note on the hotel notepad saying thank you. I was a Housekeeping Manager for years and those ladies bust their ass. Always tip the housekeeper. You re a pig.,
On the way out Will the doorman was out front, greeted me and pointed at my car. Took my suitcase & briefcase and asked if I wanted the briefcase in the front. Reminded me the easiest way to get on 90W. he got a few bucks. He does a great job, I want him to stay there..

On the way home I stopped and had a Subway sando & a roadside service stop getting gas. He did a good job making my sandwich, paid with card & the ipad had all the tip options & I declined. Put a couple of bucks in the jar.
CREAM

so practical life. tipping didnt bankrupt me and made the trip better for me and those I interacted with.

Its subject close to me as mentioned I lived on tips at various points, as did my roommates and friends. Resort towns where you ski run on tips.
Since running various things in hotels I have been in sales bringing in meetings and conventions that keep them full. After 9/11 I remember waking up in the middle of the nigh thinking that John at the Bell desk wasn't getting shifts/tips if I didn't bring in groups to keep us busy. Some of y'all met John @ Solitude where he came with me to work @ the Inn.

I had similar stress coming out of covid. for our teams across North America. Your gratuities feed families & ski bums. If you hate that, travel in Europe.