Redrill old pro-filled holes yay or nay?

[meter-man]

Yes, epoxy and golf tees, dowels, or toothpicks. Wood core begets wood fill w/epoxy. Totally drillable at any offset if done right.

Plastic plugs, nah.

I got my Kusalas from powdork after he had ridden them beyond imaginable belief. Paper thin bases and edges and each ski had 28 holes.

Took the time to fill each one propah, dropped the jig on them and put 8 more holes in them with absolutely no concern where jig landed.

What epoxy do you use specifically? Like, what do I buy at the store? Thanks for the bbq skewer suggestion - good call!

[XXX-er]

a 24 hr slow set epoxy , the stuff I can get locally is called system Three it may be different for you,

the BBQ skewers are usually available in the supermarket,

It may work out ok for you to drill anywhere but I move the boot center half an inch

[Timberridge]

What epoxy do you use specifically? Like, what do I buy at the store? Thanks for the bbq skewer suggestion - good call!

I always use slow setting--just don't ski on it for 2 days. Hardman (blue pack) has never failed me. Can't usually get at hardware store, just order from Amazon.

[summit]

Why 24hr epoxy vs 1hr epoxy?

[XXX-er]

back in the day I had some left over 5 min epoxy from a fix so I put it on the end of a WW paddle blade just to see what would happen, it got soft and fell off pretty quick and I never used 5 min again, slow set is stronger more flexible waterproof, you pretty much need to heat a screw up to get it out after using slow set to do a mount

if any screw doesn't wana come, if you don't know what it was mounted with use heat BEFORE you strip the head

[GeezerSteve]

Why 24hr epoxy vs 1hr epoxy?

1-hour epoxy is brittle and can crack. Moisture can migrate through the cracks.

Long-set epoxy is tougher, will not crack (i.e., more pliable) and waterproof.

[Timberridge]

All the above.

The other advantage to slow set is when doing inserts---since they have to be spot on lined up with the binding hole. If you need to tweak the insert a bit to get the screw to be lined up b/c you angled in the tap a bit wrong, etc. the slow set allows you some time to curse and contemplate your mistake before setting about correcting it.

[schindlerpiste]

I have a pair of skis that have been drilled 1X for Pivots and 1x for FT12s. When I took the P14 off, I filled the holes with plastic. Eventually, I used the skis for a [very] bit of touring. Now, I want to remount P14s and use the old holes. I am out of hole fillers and epoxy, so I walk dow to Canyon Mountain Sports and ask if I can buy some. The ski tech immediately told me that first: there is no way that I can use the same holes, because placing plastic in the holes increases the size of the hole and there would certainly be a failure; second: he told me that in all his years of working as a tech (he is about 23 years old...tops) he has never , and would never use epoxy, because it sucks ass when compared to "special ski glue". He offered plugs, which I gladly took, but not epoxy, and I left with a chuckle.

[XXX-er]

yeah buddy ^^ is just sour cuz he stripped the head out of a screw that was instaled with 24hr epoxy ... should have used the heat

as long as you can pull out old plugs (use a drywall screw) without damaging the old threads in the ski you can re use an old hole

I'm pretty sure the " special ski glue " they use in a shop is just white wood glue which is just more convenient than mixing up epoxy

I would use good epoxy on them old holes and it should be fine

[schindlerpiste]

Thanks for the reassurance. I only posted, because I think that some of these Vail employees are hilarious, in their attitude, in the way they pretend to know everything better and the lengths that they will go to sell you something that is not in your best interest.
Last week, I was skiing down this run (Chicayne) that gets you from Red Pine to Tombstone. The hill was not that crowded, but about 3/4 way down the middle got congested. I was skiing, at a good clip, at the extreme skiers left border. Two Vail "Red Jackets", who are minimum wage information purveyors (as opposed to Yellow Jackets, who are like rent-a-cops), were standing about 3-4 feet from the left border having a conversation. I buzzed by to the left and skied down to the lift. I was waiting for my wife, when one of the Red Jackets skied over to me, told me to take off my skis and threatened to call a patroller and take my pass. Thereafter, the shitshow ensued. F**King Vail...

[3PinGrin]

How do pros fill holes? That's the crux of the biscuit.

Man, I saw the thread title and thought this was about nailing old porn stars.....

And what others said about removing plastic plugs / reusing holes.

[XXX-er]

YES ! Where did all the porn stars end up?

i love this vid

[margotron]

Real unclear wtf is happening in here rn

[XXX-er]

I can see how that Hardman product reference in a Volvo driving soccer mom thread would fuck you up eh

[tenB]

Splat vs Sumjong in a zero jig mount off. I’m giving Splat 10:1 odds on that. Would love to see video posted from each.

5 minute and 1 hour epoxy both suck, etremely brittle in a short time. I use 3M 4200 marine adhesive or 5200 if I’m feeling especially frisky. Any high grade epoxy or marine epoxy is better than the quick set shit.

[XXX-er]

Maybe quickset if you are making a repair in a hut or out on the trail (on trail sounds sketchy) but IME/IMO if you are at home you got time to use good slow set, the bigger problem is usually finding the good stuff

[schindlerpiste]

I just remounted my skis using existing holes for Pivot. I used a bit of Double Bubble 2 day in each hole. 7 of 8 were tight and right. One of the front left toes piece screws....(the eighth), spun. Then, I coated the screw with epoxy. I'll see whether it spins in a day or two. I'm hoping not to have to remove the entire toe and add an insert.

[retirwntm]

Bumping this since I’ll be remounting p18’s in existing holes.

How’d it go with the remount? It’s been awhile so time will have told.


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[AZskibum]

Bumping this to ask:

If i'm taking some shifts off a DeatheWish and mounting pivots instead, should I just do a woodfill/marine epoxy job and then not worry too much about overlapping or close holes?

[XXX-er]

Bumping this to ask:

If i'm taking some shifts off a DeatheWish and mounting pivots instead, should I just do a woodfill/marine epoxy job and then not worry too much about overlapping or close holes?

I wouldn't overlap but people do, its better to move the binding a little to get 1 cm center to center between the new and old holes, its best practice and you wouldn't notice it especially on a pow ski