Who's driving a VW AllTrack?

[uglymoney]

The WS90 and Xice Snows are like 1 and 2 in all the tests I have seen this year including Consumer Reports which I just got this last week. I think they are both probably great tires in snow and ice. Living in shithole midwest I just know the Michelins last even when driving on dry roads and on 2400 mile round trips to the mountains.



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[The Tortoise]

They likely have better dry road manners too.

[Flexon Phil]

I run 17's with both sets of tires. I have owned about 15 Subies and other various AWD wagons, this Alltrack is very well the best AWD car I ever driven/owned. I am running Blizzak WS90 on mine for the winter and some all season Goodyears the rest of the time.

[jmedslc]

The WS90 and Xice Snows are like 1 and 2 in all the tests I have seen this year including Consumer Reports which I just got this last week. I think they are both probably great tires in snow and ice. Living in shithole midwest I just know the Michelins last even when driving on dry roads and on 2400 mile round trips to the mountains.



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Yeah I had a couple sets of Xice on Subarus in the past and was amazing with the tread life. Even the Nokian Hakka 8 that I have on there now doesn’t match the longevity of the xice. If high miles is your thing, that’s a great option.

Edit to add that IME the deep snow/ice traction of the blizzak and nokian were both far better than the Xice. What you get in tread life takes away from real snow performance.

[Mustonen]

I had some X-Ice on my allroad. Can echo the general consensus that they had great dry/wet road manners, but felt less confident in snow and ice than my Blizzaks. Ran them for 2 or 3 seasons and replaced with Blizzaks, even though I probably could have gotten another couple seasons out of them.

[spotted dogs]

18” Michelin xice for me on our 17. Live in Interior of BC- literally where Highway through Hell is filmed- Coquihalla Hwy - car has been great and tires have worn really well. Winter number 3 and still have 70+ % tread left averaging 500 km or more a week. We do 35 k a year on hwys for skiing/ hockey/ etc.


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[singlesline]

X-ice XI3 or whatever on my GTI have been solid. Not sure how old they are, but I don't put that many miles on it so they are still going strong.

Wife's tiguan got Nokian Hakkapeliitta R3s last year (Nokian's non-studded option) and they felt great. Would not hesitate to buy another set or to try the new R5 version.

Finland knows what they are doing when it comes to winter driving.

Sorry for the old bump. Just picked up a '17 Alltrack. It came w/18 Conti Extreme Contact 18 in. I'm in New England, and will drive on a pow day. Was planning on 17 in snow, but am I being too conservative? Love the car thus far...few days.

Congrats, love the alltrack. Almost ended up with one for my wife last year, but she liked the Tiguan better and ultimately it is her car.

[The Tortoise]

FWIW, Nokian tires might be hard to come by as some of their factories are in Russia.

[Robik]

Anyone with Alltrack needs OEM crossbars? Bought some from some dude on KSL and didn't have my wife's Tiguan with me to check the fitment, comes with two keys.
Asking $125. Pickup in SLC area.

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[alpinevibes]

I had some X-Ice on my allroad. Can echo the general consensus that they had great dry/wet road manners, but felt less confident in snow and ice than my Blizzaks. Ran them for 2 or 3 seasons and replaced with Blizzaks, even though I probably could have gotten another couple seasons out of them.

Same here. We ran X-Ice's on our Outback and they were acceptable, but the 16" WS-80s have been stellar for five years on the Alltrack. Bought them used, only drive a few thousand miles a winter on them and they still have great tread. Just swapped the snows on this weekend for another season.

[Wes Mantooth]

I got 205/65/16 Blizzaks last year for our Alltrack to replace an old set of arctic claws and they kick ass so far. I've driven a lot of AWD wagons in the snow and the Alltrack is one of the best if not the best. The only car that was more of a tank was an early 2000s manual Allroad but that thing broke down all the time

[uglymoney]

My 02 Outback manual was more of an unstoppable beast in the snow with the lsd in the rear end and 50/50 split plus the lift I added. Alltrack falls down when snow is deep also. But the Outback required much more attention at highway speeds.

Alltrack manual is more stable at speed and the pseudo drift mode when you hold the button down for 4 seconds (traction control disable/escape driving stability limited) is super cool...still let's you have fun but keeps you from accidentally throwing the 180 during agressive play.



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[Wes Mantooth]

My 02 Outback manual was more of an unstoppable beast in the snow with the lsd in the rear end and 50/50 split plus the lift I added. Alltrack falls down when snow is deep also. But the Outback required much more attention at highway speeds.

Alltrack manual is more stable at speed and the pseudo drift mode when you hold the button down for 4 seconds (traction control disable/escape driving stability limited) is super cool...still let's you have fun but keeps you from accidentally throwing the 180 during agressive play.



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For sure, in deeper snow I want my truck but packed snow/ice/standard shitty roads we get here in the winter the Alltrack is fantastic whereas my truck is sliding all over the place at like 15 mph

[fool]

Bumping this to the top. I think my sunroof is leaking? Or water is getting in from somewhere after multiple days of rain.

See the picture for where condensation is evident after a rain storm. Depending on the car’s position - slope, I assume? - it was either the back right or back left collecting condensation.

Tips for handling it? I’m planning to bring it by a VW dealer to get their take. Thanks I’m advance.

Edit: I found this from earlier in the thread.

The issue with Golf/Alltracks relates to the sunroof drains tubes that drop vertically from the corners. For years VW put drip plugs at the bottom of the drain tubes to keep moisture/bugs from coming up the tubes. Unfortunately the plugs eventually let sediment build up, blocking drainage and causing water to fill up the tube and leak from the sunroof tray into the headliner.

VW issued a recall for Golf/Alltrack this year to remove the plugs and clear the drain tubes. I would guess that some part of this system causes the condensation issues, pre or post plugs.

FWIW we love the sunroof, glad we got the SE and have had a drain tube leak a year before the recall. It was an inconvenience (dealer is an hour away), but they did the same fix as the recall and no issues since.

Going to check with the dealer or a local VW-specific mechanic about seeing what's going on. It seems related to VW Service Action Code: 60E5. If anyone has any particular suggestions, I'm all ears.

[utagonian]

When is the last time you cleaned the sunroof drain pipe?

[alpinevibes]

Bumping this to the top. I think my sunroof is leaking? Or water is getting in from somewhere after multiple days of rain.

See the picture for where condensation is evident after a rain storm. Depending on the car’s position - slope, I assume? - it was either the back right or back left collecting condensation.

Tips for handling it? I’m planning to bring it by a VW dealer to get their take. Thanks I’m advance.

Edit: I found this from earlier in the thread.



Going to check with the dealer or a local VW-specific mechanic about seeing what's going on. It seems related to VW Service Action Code: 60E5. If anyone has any particular suggestions, I'm all ears.

Mine have leaked again this summer - this time in the rear interior (old parking spot pointed down hill, new one is slightly uphill...). I'm still trying to get into the dealer for our 50k service and hopefully talk them into a quick drain clean/interior clean, since this has been an ongoing issue.

Either way, I probably need to do my own cleaning once or twice a year if we're going to keep the car:

[fool]

When is the last time you cleaned the sunroof drain pipe?

It's been a while. Been borrowing the car from another family member so doubt it's been done recently. Thanks for point it out - didn't realize it was a normal needed thing.

Mine have leaked again this summer - this time in the rear interior (old parking spot pointed down hill, new one is slightly uphill...). I'm still trying to get into the dealer for our 50k service and hopefully talk them into a quick drain clean/interior clean, since this has been an ongoing issue.

Either way, I probably need to do my own cleaning once or twice a year if we're going to keep the car:

Thanks, AV. That was it. I followed this video - and used weed wacker wire - since the comments for the video you posted were concerned with damaging the seals with the brush, IIRC (but I don't know if that would happen).

Is cleaning the two front sunroof drain pipes the only thing that is needed? I scheduled time to get it checked at a local VW shop just to be safe but wouldn't mind saving the coin if that's all they'll do.

[BigHerm]

Been a while. We just hit 100k in our 17 S DSG. It was (mostly) problem free until I hit some monster pothole on the way up to the ski hill last month. Weird intermittent front end rattle under 40 mph. At shop now...

My driver seat started to crack last year. Still minor. Trim around the shifter turned to razor blade and is currently Gorilla Taped. New recall for this I haven't taken care of yet. Weird gremlin that tells you to shift into park immediately that is also an outstanding recall.

I ran 16" Nokian winters when we lived in the RFV. Moved around a bit and didn't have room for spare wheelset. Been running Yokohama Geolandar 215 60 17 M+S All Terrains on stock wheels year round and been really happy with snow performance when they are on the new side. 0.5" higher ride height. Felt "squishy" at 33 PSI, feel normal at 38. I've programmed the speedo to be accurate. Had to remove the front mudguards but the rears fit fine. Work great on our cindered roads.

Still on original suspension. I change oil and filter every 5k using an extractor. Following factory maintenance through indy shops. Had to replace low beam bulbs recently (thankful for tiny hands).

[Cocximus]

I pumped my squishy continental winters to 45psi. That made the transition from summer PS3s passable. Any downsides to running such high pressure?

[uglymoney]

Not an expert but I think you might wear out the center of the tread faster than the outside and it increases wear on your suspension components.

Higher pressure will increase the effective load capacity and decrease heat build up. Always run my boat tires at 65 or 70 psi.

[skaredshtles]

Won't traction be reduced?

[uglymoney]

Certainly could be if it is distributing load unevenly, but if he thinks it is handling better in the dry it might be a reasonable compromise.

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[BigHerm]

Not an expert... I ran my Nokian and Dunlops 16" winters at 40 PSI for years. I also made sure to corner aggressively and do donuts when appropriate. My tire wear was fine.

Mechanic says it's a passenger side wheel bearing. Makes sense. Have to order the entire hub assembly though? Only doing one side since the price is a lil steep.

[Mustonen]

I’d suspect running higher pressure will have a similar effect as running a low-pro tire even if you don’t have contact patch issues (which you’d notice with uneven wear in the center). Benefit would be better fuel economy.

I’d recommend keeping tire pressure at recommended, because otherwise you will die. Also, seems a bit silly. They’re squishy because that’s better for snow/ice.

[Core Shot]

Wrong thread. I’m a jong.

But VW Atlas is an awesome sports suv. Very sporty.