If only there was something we could do...

[MultiVerse]

Regardless the Q-Anon part is misleading.

It's not though, not really. It's too clever by half. Q guns is purposely ambiguous “I haven’t told anyone what it stands for, and I don’t think I ever will” probably because even though they came first, the chance to subsequently ride Q-Anon coattails without explicitly doing so is too good to pass up given their target audience.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

The article is bullshit.

This is the best picture I could find. I still have this magazine. Its from 30 years ago....

How to Win at CQB
Elite Sniper Tactics
Assault Rifle Roundup
SWAT Team Guns and Gear

You’ve been a cosplaying gun dork for 30 years? That’s kinda sad Bobby

[MultiVerse]

The article is bullshit.

This is the best picture I could find. I still have this magazine. Its from 30 years ago....

The fact that 'tactical' imagery existed in the past does not contradict the author's point because the point is what was once the fringe is now mainstream.

The article describes how the main marketing thrust moved away from “responsible citizens” to a culture of extremism — once anomalous practices are now ubiquitous.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

After some absence from TGR it’s nice to see that you guys have made some real progress on this topic

[Conundrum]

AAC developed the original HB with special forces to replace the MP5SD. Im pretty sure it wasn't bright gold.

Regardless the Q-Anon part is misleading. I have no desire to go round and round about what constitutes "tactical" or not.

A bright gold gun ain't it though.

So a weapon was designed for the military, a guy annodized or ceracoted the receiver gold, and now it’s a $6k sporting toy for the affluent. Maybe the lawmakers should pass a bill that all the black guns are to be kryloned gold and the nation’s gravy seals and hippies can rejoice as the tactical in nature tools designed to kill people are gone because “gold guns ain’t it”.

I mean really, look what James Bond did to the evil henchman carrying one a ways back.

I think your trolling is generally funny but it’s getting cumbersome. Now you’re just contradictory without the funny. Time to work on a new schtick Bobby.

[Bobby Stainless]

It's not though, not really. It's too clever by half. Q guns is purposely ambiguous “I haven’t told anyone what it stands for, and I don’t think I ever will” probably because even though they came first, the chance to subsequently ride Q-Anon coattails without explicitly doing so is too good to pass up given their target audience.

That article was written before Q Anon...

Like I said. It's literally written out on their Instagram. Keep trying though. It might fit soon.

[Bobby Stainless]

So a weapon was designed for the military, a guy annodized or ceracoted the receiver gold, and now it’s a $6k sporting toy for the affluent. Maybe the lawmakers should pass a bill that all the black guns are to be kryloned gold and the nation’s gravy seals and hippies can rejoice as the tactical in nature tools designed to kill people are gone because “gold guns ain’t it”.

I mean really, look what James Bond did to the evil henchman carrying one a ways back.

I think your trolling is generally funny but it’s getting cumbersome. Now you’re just contradictory without the funny. Time to work on a new schtick Bobby.

Handguns are tactical in nature. Race guns aren't. Its pretty fucking simple to see the difference.

1911s are the same as ARs.

[Bobby Stainless]

You’ve been a cosplaying gun dork for 30 years? That’s kinda sad Bobby

Paintball at that age. Couldn't buy guns at 11.

[Bobby Stainless]

The fact that 'tactical' imagery existed in the past does not contradict the author's point because the point is what was once the fringe is now mainstream.

The article describes how the main marketing thrust moved away from “responsible citizens” to a culture of extremism — once anomalous practices are now ubiquitous.

I'm saying that's bullshit. Tactical shit was cool 30 years ago too.

I've observed the marketing over the years and its all pretty much the same. Just in the form of social media now and not on the magazine stands.

The article is a big stretch and literally lies. I guess that's what your side has to resort to.

[Bobby Stainless]

Q's Instagram. So tactical.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cdlg_lKMrCf/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CgRyFPNLVHf/

https://www.instagram.com/p/CgExHqpLDd8/

Now take a look at Knights Armament

https://www.instagram.com/knightarmco/

and Barrett

https://www.instagram.com/barrettfirearms/

[MultiVerse]

That article was written before Q Anon...

Like I said. It's literally written out on their Instagram. Keep trying though. It might fit soon.

The Q guns tagline is LIVE Q OR DIE and the driving motivation of the QAnon fantasy is that they are fighting a 'secret war.' The fact that the denial is "literally written out on their Instagram" in combination with lots of ambiguity & symbology is the best way to market to the digital army of QAnon fanatics.

I'm saying that's bullshit. Tactical shit was cool 30 years ago too.

Tactical shit was fringe, not mainstream, 30 years ago. That fact that a fringe element thought it was cool is beside the point.

[Conundrum]

Handguns are tactical in nature. Race guns aren't. Its pretty fucking simple to see the difference.

Der, der, der.

What the fuck are you talking about with this race gun nonsense?

An HB (gold or black) is an SBR. An SBR is an AR pistol (or an actual pistol with a stock added to shoulder(dumb)) that somebody paid $200 to the gov for the privilege to own without ambiguity. SBRs were designed for CQB. That is tactical as anything in my opinion. Ask the “Type 1”, “Tier 1”, whatever you called them, you know, the guys you’re paying to hang out with you and your $6k sporting racey gunny thing if they think it has tactical roots.

Again, try to be funny while making salient points again. That’s the Bobby we know and love.

PS-saw your pic in the guns thread. Looks cool and I bet it’s a shooter. But you could just call it what it is.

[::: :::]

The article is a big stretch and literally lies. I guess that's what your side has to resort to.

that’s rich

[maybe not for you personally, but representing the gun lobby]

[Bobby Stainless]

Der, der, der.

What the fuck are you talking about with this race gun nonsense?

An HB (gold or black) is an SBR. An SBR is an AR pistol (or an actual pistol with a stock added to shoulder(dumb)) that somebody paid $200 to the gov for the privilege to own without ambiguity. SBRs were designed for CQB. That is tactical as anything in my opinion. Ask the “Type 1”, “Tier 1”, whatever you called them, you know, the guys you’re paying to hang out with you and your $6k sporting racey gunny thing if they think it has tactical roots.

Again, try to be funny while making salient points again. That’s the Bobby we know and love.

PS-saw your pic in the guns thread. Looks cool and I bet it’s a shooter. But you could just call it what it is.

Race gun. Used for shooting competitions.



Tactical 2011


"same" gun, but not really. That's kind of what the Q guns are.

[frorider]

So you’re saying a gun industry guy is ‘our side’?

And you’re saying that his observations about the formation and growth of those newer companies with more ‘tactical’ or AR branding aren’t correct? You’re saying his observations about the shift 20 yrs ago as mainstream brands started nudging more into this edgier branding aren’t correct?

He participated in those industry events over the decades and is reporting his observations FWIW. I read a long post last year from another gun industry guy bemoaning the same trend. Maybe these guys are just imagining things. My grandfather subscribed to mainstream gun mags in the 90s, and I just remember a hunting and self protection vibe, but maybe I’m imagining things.

[thebirdhunter]

After some absence from TGR it’s nice to see that you guys have made some real progress on this topic

When you say “after some absence from tgr”, You mean like two days?

Now that’s sad.

[frorider]

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1056871881

for decades, Busse was a gun industry insider, devising marketing strategies that made him a celebrated executive among arms manufacturers and, at a critical juncture, leading an industry-wide effort to punish one gun-maker who dared negotiate stricter gun controls with the Clinton administration.

He says over his career, he saw the business change from one in which manufacturers refused to market high-powered automatic weapons to the public to one in which gun-makers and the NRA embraced military-style weapons and tactical gear, branding them as symbols of masculinity and patriotism. Busse eventually began to publicly criticize some of the industry's policies and favored political candidates before leaving the business altogether. His new book is called "Gunfight: My Battle Against The Industry That Radicalized America."

Different industry guy than what I mentioned above, but the takeaways seem similar. Busse seems to have been literally in the core group of marketers, but maybe Bobby can send him old magazine covers to show that his gun marketing career experience means nothing.

[Conundrum]

Race gun. Used for shooting competitions.



Tactical 2011


"same" gun, but not really. That's kind of what the Q guns are.

Race gun, tactical weapon, or neither/both? Nice piece of sporty racey machinery you've got there.

[Bobby Stainless]

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1056871881





Different industry guy than what I mentioned above, but the takeaways seem similar. Busse seems to have been literally in the core group of marketers, but maybe Bobby can send him old magazine covers to show that his gun marketing career experience means nothing.

Don't get butt hurt because the article you linked has outright lies in it.

[MultiVerse]

The Q guns LIVE Q OR DIE marketing podcast illustrates the point. You've got guys wearing Hawaiian shirts interviewing blacked out former navy seals, with a mystery science theater vibe, selling tactical training to civilians. The Q gun guys self describe as "the calm before the storm."

[Bobby Stainless]

Race gun, tactical weapon, or neither/both? Nice piece of sporty racey machinery you've got there.

I shot a mole with it a few days ago. So I guess its a hunting rifle.

[Conundrum]

You may have lost the funny side of your schtick but your preverication is still top notch.

[Cisco Kid]

I think any proponent of the Good Guy with a Gun theory of gun control who won't carry to the mall, the beach or the auto show is a pussy. At best.

[mcphee]

I shot a mole with it a few days ago. So I guess its a hunting rifle.

“I dOn’T lIkE tO kILl ThInGs”

[Bobby Stainless]

I think any proponent of the Good Guy with a Gun theory of gun control who won't carry to the mall, the beach or the auto show is a pussy. At best.

Im glad to see that your posts still make no sense.

“I dOn’T lIkE tO kILl ThInGs”

Moles are different. Fuck those things. Ruining my yard.

Ill kill a crow too.

Tell me. Do you peruse your dick pic collection for the right one, or is a shoot from the hip deal?