If only there was something we could do...

[neufox47]

JFC you’re an insufferable cunt.

No one should prescribe psych meds except a therapist. That’s my opinion and I’m entitled to it.
And the literature proves they work better when combined with talk therapy.

They hand them out like candy. And it’s powerful shit.

I’ve tried twice. Once as a confused youth (that was with therapy, which I enjoyed) and once after our stillbirth.

Both times the pills sucked. And would rather be me than what that was making me.

Both times I was tripping balls and quit.

Except a therapist cannot prescribe drugs on their own.

[mcphee]

Semantics.

Only a MD should be pre-scripting SSRI’s.

The fact you play games in such a serious subject proves your not serious about anything but being right.

Deplorable





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What’s semantics in what I said? Your feelings and fears guiding your opinions as opposed to facts? That’s not semantics.

Nurse practitioners are highly educated and have to hold licenses to prescribe meds. Unscrupulous MD’s overprescribe and misprescribe a lot too, just look at our opioid epidemic. Your issue is with humans making decisions, not whether they have MD or NP after their name. You can’t even be bothered to educate yourself beyond your anecdotal evidence. Who is depolorable here?

And a hearty lol for staying with a girlfriend who by your account was an awful psycho who was abusing her children, but hey, birds of a feather and all.

Fuck you.

[Core Shot]

Anybody need a history lesson as to why there are millions of clinically diagnosed unstable people living in their parents basements supposedly properly medicated instead of at in patient care in government funded mental hospitals?

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Great post of history
Most people have no idea how Ronnie raygun zap emptied the psych wards.

Otoh. Imagine being the one in the cookoo nest. Heavily sedated.
It’s a tough question.
But now they’re on the streets talking to the ghosts in their head.

But most of these shootings are young confused kids.
On ssri

Hey bennymac? Have you tried these drugs? It’s not candy.

[SumJongGuy]

Great post of history
Most people have no idea how Ronnie raygun zap emptied the psych wards.

Otoh. Imagine being the one in the cookoo nest. Heavily sedated.
It’s a tough question.
But now they’re on the streets talking to the ghosts in their head.

But most of these shootings are young confused kids.
On ssri

Hey bennymac? Have you tried these drugs? It’s not candy.

Even back then kids who threatened to kill their parents were institutionalized pretty quickly. And, the drugs were there all along. Lithium! What's different now, 00s to present, is how much easier it is to get those guns..

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But most of these shootings are young confused kids.
On ssri

No, that is not true

[Core Shot]

No, that is not true

Do you take drugs Danny?

[SumJongGuy]

I'd argue that most shootings are carried out by pissed off mid 20s to middle aged men, murder suicide because they can't handle breakups or outright rejection. Add in some postal scenarios too.. If you include suicide it's probably not even close..

[mb6f50]

Great post of history
Most people have no idea how Ronnie raygun zap emptied the psych wards.

Otoh. Imagine being the one in the cookoo nest. Heavily sedated.
It’s a tough question.
But now they’re on the streets talking to the ghosts in their head.

But most of these shootings are young confused kids.
On ssri

Hey bennymac? Have you tried these drugs? It’s not candy.

Have you heard of Iceland?

They have the highest use of ssri drugs in the world and very low gun violence.

It's not the ssris.

[Core Shot]

Have you heard of Iceland?

They have the highest use of ssri drugs in the world and very low gun violence.

It's not the ssris.

Interesting. I did not know that.

I’m Swedish, so I get the dark winter depression.
One of the reasons I ski.

But if Iceland had guns, they might have more mass murder?
Maybe.
All I know is ssri isn’t candy.

Interesting is the rate of shrinks in Iceland.

If we had more shrinks and less guns things would be better.

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Without enough sunlight exposure, low levels of serotonin are associated with seasonal affective disorder. With the long depressing winter, it is estimated that 15% to 25% meaning that residents are expected to experience depression at some point. One of the most commonly used antidepressants, SSRI, prevents the reuptake of serotonin. Therefore, it increases the time serotonin remains between the synapses.

This might help people taking antidepressant feel calm and stay in a better mood, which is similar to the effect of sunlight.

However, the truth is likely to be more complicated. There are several countries, such as Norway, which lie on high latitude. On average, Norway only gets about one hour more sunlight per day. But only 5.6% of the Norwegian population take antidepressants, whilst the rate is 11% in Iceland. In fact, the popularity of antidepressants reflects the conditions much more than the sunlight hours, such as the availability of treatment and cultural stigma in a country.

The advance healthcare system might be the reason why more Icelandic people are diagnosed with depression and prescribed medicine. The healthcare system is largely paid for by taxes, so everyone legally residing in Iceland has access to it. Also, there are 19 psychiatrists per 100,000 population, compared to a global rate of 1.27 psychiatrists per 100,000 population. This drastic difference makes the treatment of mental health illness more available for people residing in Iceland than many developing and developed countries, hence the higher diagnosis rate and higher rate of antidepressant subscription.

Also, despite the high rate of antidepressant prescription, the suicide rate of Iceland is not on top of the chart. This reflects the awareness of mental health amongst the communities in Iceland. Unsurprisingly, the countries which have the top suicide rate, Lithuania and Russia, do not have very high antidepressant prescription rate. Therefore, does the rate of antidepressant prescription also have something to do with the attitude of the people living in those countries?

I found out about the project Geðrækt, which was a project in Iceland to increase the awareness of mental health issues launched in 2001. They brought together as many representatives of stigmatized minority groups within society to work together against stigma. They also did various thing such as discussing the topic mental health on radio every week, and distributing educational materials to kindergarten and school teachers to be informed of mental health illness amounts children and teenagers. This successful campaign reduced stigma around the phrase mental health illness, and enhanced the knowledge of mental health both within and outside the community health care system. Therefore, people in Iceland might be more willing to go to their doctors for mental health issues.

Globally, some culture and communities might view people suffering from mental health illness as being in control of their illness and responsible for causing it. Therefore, the stigma causes only 59.6% of individuals with a mental illness reported receiving treatment as a result of the negative stigma and the lack of access to health care.

Iceland might be prescribing antidepressant more frequently than any other country in the world, but that might not be a bad sign. Instead, it might reflect the equal healthcare opportunities, the positive attitude towards mental health illness, and of course, the long dark winters in Iceland.

[k2skier112]

https://www.statista.com/statistics/...oter-s-gender/

Males, the common denomitor in mass shootings

[Cisco Kid]

Anyone else here listen the small, right wing gun talk radio over the net? The pretzel logic I hear makes the usual suspects here sound like Aristotle.

https://www.facebook.com/thedailysho...05285637238464

[mb6f50]

Interesting. I did not know that.

I’m Swedish, so I get the dark winter depression.
One of the reasons I ski.

But if Iceland had guns, they might have more mass murder?

They have guns in Iceland, even semiautomatic.

Just some common sense gun control.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/i...s-2007-n872726

[Core Shot]

They have guns in Iceland, even semiautomatic.

Just some common sense gun control.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/i...s-2007-n872726

Good article. But I guess you didn’t read it.

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If they pass, he and his girlfriend will have been studying and preparing for around 13 months.

And that's just for a small rifle or a pump-action shotgun. Owning a handgun, for example, can take around three to four years, and semi-automatic rifles are all but banned

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I do like the waiting period and detailed interview process.

But 13 months for a rifle?

And three to four years for a handgun?

[::: :::]

Yes
Eminently sensible, isn’t it?

[SumJongGuy]

Mountain Girl has left the building.... again..

[k2skier112]

Good article. But I guess you didn’t read it.

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If they pass, he and his girlfriend will have been studying and preparing for around 13 months.

And that's just for a small rifle or a pump-action shotgun. Owning a handgun, for example, can take around three to four years, and semi-automatic rifles are all but banned

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I do like the waiting period and detailed interview process.

But 13 months for a rifle?

And three to four years for a handgun?

It takes a year for new driver with his permit to get a license

1 year for a basic hunting gun, and 3 more for a human killer, perfect

[Core Shot]

It’s taking my son six months to go from permit to license.

He promised me he wouldn’t mow down any pedestrians

[SumJongGuy]

It’s taking my son six months to go from permit to license.

He promised me he wouldn’t mow down any pedestrians

Tell us what the net social utility value of him being able to drive cars designed to move people and goods throughout modern society is versus the net social value of him being able to carry weapons designed to kill bunch of people. Now compare and contrast the risks. It's totally the same amirite??

[Core Shot]

Fair point. But three to four years for a handgun permit?

[SumJongGuy]

Fair point. But three to four years for a handgun permit?

Nobody but LEO and professional security "needs" a handgun except people with high risk jobs like repo or bounty hunters... and people with a legit violent stalker, restraining order level threat shit. Those folks should be able to get one pretty immediately with a couple hours of training. Rest of the WANNABE mall cops need to just learn to fight with a knife or get better at avoiding confrontations.

[riser4]

Nobody but LEO and professional security "needs" a handgun except people with high risk jobs like repo or bounty hunters... and people with a legit violent stalker, restraining order level threat shit. Those folks should be able to get one pretty immediately with a couple hours of training. Rest of the WANNABE mall cops need to just learn to fight with a knife or get better at avoiding confrontations.

Need to buy an Hattori Hanzo.

[TBS]

^^^Not enough good guys with Hanzos in Oregon

Alex Lovell nearly lost his fingers, his life and he appears to have lost the woman he loved.

Otherwise, the Camas man is feeling pretty good.

"I was just so proud for beating this samurai wannabe crazy lady with hate in her heart," Lovell, 29, told The Oregonian/OregonLive in a Facebook message exchange Wednesday. "I've been preparing my whole life for something like this."

The woman? Emily Javier, 30, his girlfriend of two years. Javier faces attempted murder charges after she told police and a 911 dispatcher she attacked and repeatedly slashed Lovell with a samurai sword during the wee hours of March 3.

She found a dating app on his phone, and was pissed about his video game habit
https://www.oregonlive.com/clark-cou...d_samurai.html

And in Southern OR

On November 15, 2013 at approximately 1:47 a.m., OSP dispatch was notified of a stabbing in the 2400 block of NW Highland Avenue in the Grants Pass area. OSP troopers and detectives responded to the scene to investigate. One person was taken to a local hospital for treatment of non-life threatening wounds. Preliminary investigation indicates the suspect, PRESTON JAMES SWEANEY, age 23, was in a motorhome with his brother, NATHANIAL SWEANEY, age 21, and another relative, CHRISTIAN BURNISON, age 18, when they became involved in an argument that turned physical between the older siblings. PRESTON SWEANEY was allegedly holding a Samurai sword and caused laceration wounds to NATHANIAL’s side and left arm. CHRISTIAN BURNISON also received a minor cut on his hand while trying to intervene. PRESTON SWEANEY was last seen fleeing the motorhome on foot and should be considered dangerous. He is wanted on a felony drug-related warrant out of California and a misdemeanor warrant out of Curry County, Oregon for Failure to Appear on an original charge of Intimidation. PRESTON SWEANEY is described as a white male, 5’9″, 155 lbs, hazel eyes, and a scar on his chin and tattoos on his chest, right calf, and shoulder. When last seen leaving the scene he had a shaved head with a “Mohawk” strip, and was wearing blue jeans with white rear pocket stitching and no shirt.

https://oregontoday.net/samurai-swor...s-nov-18-2013/

He was arrested about a week later in PDX area…

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Interesting. I did not know that.

This is probably how you should respond to every post

[Core Shot]

This is probably how you should respond to every post

Interesting. I did not know that.

[Core Shot]

An RN is a AA diploma, NPs are BSN or better and function as a primary care provider usually but might be hospital based.

You might be getting your prescriptions from your MDs nurse but he reviews med changes. Even NPs in MO can only prescribe medications if they’re in a collaborative practice with a physician.

The more you know the less stupid you sound.

For Core Shot, most “therapists” prescribe medication through a collaborative practice with a physician, they can’t just prescribe by default. See previous paragraph

Interesting. I did not know that.


Actually I did. But it’s copy pasta reply