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    Quote Originally Posted by chaka View Post
    nice! what bars are those? thanks
    The bars are the red shift kitchen sink. Forget what width they are, 48 maybe. Really liking them for the trails and dirt, but with a road background, wouldn’t mind something A little more narrower and efficient on the road

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    Anyone have any experience with Lauf?
    https://www.laufcycling.com/product/...e?currency=usd

    $3,390 in stock, carbon with AXS and a power meter... Seems too good to be true?

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    That Lauf looks like a solid bike. Rival is not fancy, but it's not a horrible price. The wheels are heavy but normal. The Rival PM is not known for accuracy, but if it's the only one you have it's prob fine.

    The frame has pretty middle of the road geometry, perhaps on the side of high BB and low stack, short stays for gravel. If the sizing works for you, it's likely a good option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alive View Post
    The bars are the red shift kitchen sink. Forget what width they are, 48 maybe. Really liking them for the trails and dirt, but with a road background, wouldn’t mind something A little more narrower and efficient on the road
    thanks. If you want something narrower with a little less flare, check out the FSA K-Wing AGX design. Sweet bar. I have a pair I may be getting rid of in place of something with more flare looking at the Richey Venturemax.

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    Gravel/Bikepack nerds enter...

    Quote Originally Posted by davjr96 View Post
    Anyone have any experience with Lauf?
    https://www.laufcycling.com/product/...e?currency=usd

    $3,390 in stock, carbon with AXS and a power meter... Seems too good to be true?
    The geo looks to be on the racy end of the scale (vs touring) so for day trips, fast rides on mixed surface, I’m sure it’s great. Chain stays are tukt and the HT angle is steeper than some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaka View Post
    thanks. If you want something narrower with a little less flare, check out the FSA K-Wing AGX design. Sweet bar. I have a pair I may be getting rid of in place of something with more flare looking at the Richey Venturemax.
    Let me know if you do and how much you'd want for them. Those look sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sethschmautz View Post
    Let me know if you do and how much you'd want for them. Those look sweet!

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    I think we already discussed the bars over PMs When I finally get around to getting a replacement I'll post em up proper and you get dibs if interested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chaka View Post
    I think we already discussed the bars over PMs When I finally get around to getting a replacement I'll post em up proper and you get dibs if interested.
    Ha! My memory sucks. My budget might be better than last time, though. Thanks!

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    We tried out the gravel bikes for 2 nights of bikepacking last weekend. It was mostly really good, but obviously sand is a problem. Future trips will require careful planning to avoid sand. We have some work to do to optimize the attachment of the bag between the drops, but otherwise we were able to carry what we needed.Click image for larger version. 

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    Looks nice, Evan. Where was that? I think you’re in the Truckee/Auburn area - any suggestions for a backpacking spot in April? Just starting research but curious if you have any suggestions for spots within 2-4 hour drive.


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    We rode from Dayton out and around Lahontan Reservoir. It would have been a great trip on MTBs too, as it was nearly all dirt and the sand wasn't very deep.

    I'm based in Carson City, but I do ride over the hill near Auburn a bunch. The gravel roads between Placerville and Camptonville are incredible, especially if you like lots of climbing. That whole area will be great in April. There might still be a bunch of snow up higher, but if not you could do some great stuff around the Lost Sierra.

    Here's a ride I did a few weeks ago that would be easy to extend a bit to make it a fantastic multi day mixed surface loop. At that time anything above 4000' was snowy but that's changing fast.

    https://strava.app.link/ebfRf8xGrob
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    Quote Originally Posted by climberevan View Post
    We rode from Dayton out and around Lahontan Reservoir. It would have been a great trip on MTBs too, as it was nearly all dirt and the sand wasn't very deep.

    I'm based in Carson City, but I do ride over the hill near Auburn a bunch. The gravel roads between Placerville and Camptonville are incredible, especially if you like lots of climbing. That whole area will be great in April. There might still be a bunch of snow up higher, but if not you could do some great stuff around the Lost Sierra.

    Here's a ride I did a few weeks ago that would be easy to extend a bit to make it a fantastic multi day mixed surface loop. At that time anything above 4000' was snowy but that's changing fast.

    https://strava.app.link/ebfRf8xGrob
    that's a great looking route! I used to live in Auburn, always enjoyed the sufferfests around Yankee Jim, Foresthill. That area outside of Bullards Bar looks great, I've only ridden the loop around the reservoir.

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    Tour de los Padres starts Thursday morning. The route is Big Sur to Santa Barbara this year. Follow along if you need something to do: https://tourdelospadres2022.maprogress.com

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    Did you put slicks on your Ti bike? Hopefully the heat wave isn't too bad by the time you get inland.

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    I was looking to bikepack the CO trail this summer (or some other trail, I just want to get out for a few weeks). However the gear thing has me super frustrated that I might just hike it.
    Backpacking: throw your stuff in a backpack and go.
    Bikepacking: spend way too much time on the internet, and then $$, figuring out how to strap all of my stuff to my bike in such a way that I can still ride it.
    I have a SC Tallboy and a handlebar tube thing, and a frame bag. So much less room than a medium sized pack. Even with a stupidly big seat bag.
    It's just daunting. I have not bikepacked before and I am not sure I will have time for much of a shakedown.
    And the beginning and end of the ride logistics are already challenging. Add a bike and it's making my head spin.
    I know there will be times when I wish I was riding.
    I don't have a ton of money invested in ultralight backpacking gear, just regular stuff for 5-ish day trips. I also do like to be kind of comfortable. I don't want to do the super ultralight thing of eating only GU and no tent and a sleeping pad the size of my butt.
    Just wanted to hear from others if I am making too big of a deal of it or not.
    I was thinking if I hike it, I can fly to Denver and get a ride and walk it, then fly home from Durango. Depending on time, I could skip the first sections by taking a bus to Frisco and starting there. If I bike that becomes much more complicated.
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    I did the CT in 2013 with a fairly basic kit, nothing that I would really consider to be ultralight. Sleeping kit in a drybag attached to the bars via webbing straps, half-frame bag from Revalate (that still gets used today, on it's third zipper), mid-size seat bag from Nuke Sunrise (also still in use), and an Osprey something-or-other backpack. I had an inflatable sleeping pad and a cheap tarp style tent with a single pole. I didn't bring a stove, plenty of places to stop for hot food/drinks along the way though.

    I parked in Durango, rented a small car and drove to Denver. I did stay with friends in Denver the night before I started but could have just as easliy skipped that step.

    Just go do it, the logistics aren't really that bad in the grand scheme of things.

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    Thanks for the inspiration. I have a frame bag, handlebar roll, small tent. So I think I need a big-ass seat pack that cooperates with my dropper post, and probably a little pack thing on top of my top tube? I have a small-ish day pack I would use, also.

    Quote Originally Posted by springsproject View Post
    I did the CT in 2013 with a fairly basic kit, nothing that I would really consider to be ultralight. Sleeping kit in a drybag attached to the bars via webbing straps, half-frame bag from Revalate (that still gets used today, on it's third zipper), mid-size seat bag from Nuke Sunrise (also still in use), and an Osprey something-or-other backpack. I had an inflatable sleeping pad and a cheap tarp style tent with a single pole. I didn't bring a stove, plenty of places to stop for hot food/drinks along the way though.

    I parked in Durango, rented a small car and drove to Denver. I did stay with friends in Denver the night before I started but could have just as easliy skipped that step.

    Just go do it, the logistics aren't really that bad in the grand scheme of things.
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    Salsa anything cages are the bomb. Various ways to attach them to your fork.




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    New bike day, RLT 9 RDO 4-star. Warbird was my first choice, but I got tired of waiting for my size. I swapped the Schwalbe G-One tires to these Rambler 50s & went tubeless. I plan to eventually switch over to 1x but additional cost was initial factor & I figure having all the gears for now isn't a bad thing for my first drop bar adventure rig. Race-day wheel-set is also on the books w/ IRC Boken DC 42s. I'm kinda all-in at this point, so f'n stoked.

    Of course now it's supposed to snow quite a bit over the next few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 406 View Post
    Did you put slicks on your Ti bike? Hopefully the heat wave isn't too bad by the time you get inland.
    Haha, no. Rode the spur. A couple guys who rode gravel bikes had a tough time of it. Lots of pavement and dirt roads but also lots of rough dirt and trails. Spur was ideal. Temps were pretty hot through day 3 but head winds were the killer. Final night crossing from Sierra Madre ridge over Big pine mtn was brutally cold and windy. 15F with wind chill and some rain.

    Quote Originally Posted by jhyatt View Post
    Thanks for the inspiration. I have a frame bag, handlebar roll, small tent. So I think I need a big-ass seat pack that cooperates with my dropper post, and probably a little pack thing on top of my top tube? I have a small-ish day pack I would use, also.
    You dont need all the specialized bags to go bikepacking, but they do help. A small top tube bag or feed bag is nice to have to carry snacks and stuff so you don't have to remove the pack often. A seat bag is nice to have as long as your frame is big enough to have room. Large or bigger frame size works best. I can't use a seat bag on my medium 29er, had to go with an Old man mountain rack. But that does allow full dropper use which was awesome on the CT. You could do without a seat back or rack and ride with a bigger backpack. I've done it, and it works ok though your shoulders will take a beating with all the hike a bike. Most important thing is to pack light as possible. There is good resupply until Buena Vista then it's almost 200mi to Silverton without any.

    My main advice is dont do the CT as your first bikepacking trip. Try and do a few shorter ones to help sort out your gear.

    When I did CT last year I boxed my bike and flew with it from Durango to Denver. Left my truck at a friend's house. I built my bike up near the baggage carousel and then hopped on the metro train to Littleton. Then it was an easy 12 mile bike path ride to Watertown Canyon. Hardest part was finding a bike box when shops weren't getting any new bikes in.

    Feel free to ask any questions.

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    I need to buy something like a 40cc Maxxis Rambler, what has an equivalent tread, need to find something else that's in stock, and order it before the the end of day tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evdog View Post
    Haha, no. Rode the spur. A couple guys who rode gravel bikes had a tough time of it. Lots of pavement and dirt roads but also lots of rough dirt and trails. Spur was ideal. Temps were pretty hot through day 3 but head winds were the killer. Final night crossing from Sierra Madre ridge over Big pine mtn was brutally cold and windy. 15F with wind chill and some rain.


    You dont need all the specialized bags to go bikepacking, but they do help. A small top tube bag or feed bag is nice to have to carry snacks and stuff so you don't have to remove the pack often. A seat bag is nice to have as long as your frame is big enough to have room. Large or bigger frame size works best. I can't use a seat bag on my medium 29er, had to go with an Old man mountain rack. But that does allow full dropper use which was awesome on the CT. You could do without a seat back or rack and ride with a bigger backpack. I've done it, and it works ok though your shoulders will take a beating with all the hike a bike. Most important thing is to pack light as possible. There is good resupply until Buena Vista then it's almost 200mi to Silverton without any.

    My main advice is dont do the CT as your first bikepacking trip. Try and do a few shorter ones to help sort out your gear.

    When I did CT last year I boxed my bike and flew with it from Durango to Denver. Left my truck at a friend's house. I built my bike up near the baggage carousel and then hopped on the metro train to Littleton. Then it was an easy 12 mile bike path ride to Watertown Canyon. Hardest part was finding a bike box when shops weren't getting any new bikes in.

    Feel free to ask any questions.
    Thanks that's all super helpful.
    I don't think I will have time for a real shakedown before my CT time.
    My thoughts are enjoying the trail and surroundings and vibes on a bike vs on 2 feet. Bike is more exciting, and faster but more gear puzzles and less in touch with surroundings.
    But walking can get kind of boring and when I look down from the top of a pass at that ribbon of singletrack. I will wish I had a bike!
    Or a few miles of flats...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    I need to buy something like a 40cc Maxxis Rambler, what has an equivalent tread, need to find something else that's in stock, and order it before the the end of day tomorrow.
    Or just buy the Ramblers in 40? They have both black and dark tan wall currently, both EXO, click on the different options. https://www.jensonusa.com/Maxxis-Rambler-700C-Tire

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dee Hubbs View Post
    I need to buy something like a 40cc Maxxis Rambler, what has an equivalent tread, need to find something else that's in stock, and order it before the the end of day tomorrow.
    I’m pretty sure I’ve got some 40c Ramblers at the shop. Would be happy to send a pair your way


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