Fuel Prices.

[SumJongGuy]

$10/gal is a cheap price to get rid of Putin.

X100000000

Shocking that the people who whine about the inconvenience of either finding alternate methods of transportation or tweaking their budget other ways to support this effort are the same people who didn't want to wear a mask or take a couple jabs to help save other peoples' lives by reducing hospital ICU congestion..

[oldnew_guy]

Prices that high will surely get us our own version of Putin and a rubber stamp Duma.

[Jong Lafitte]

Never let a good crisis go to waste eh?

I mean, I really do think gas prices should reflect at least some of the negative external “costs” caused by burning it. Cheap gas is not great for our planet long term.

We bitch about Russian oligarch? What about ours?


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[The AD]

Nothing is certain except death, taxes, people complaining about Daylight Saving Time and the price of gas.

[frorider]

Regardless of whether one understands the science behind anthropogenic global warming, most people understand that carbon footprint is an interesting metric that adds up ‘everything’ — home heating / cooling, transportation, daily hamburger, big ass house, endless clothing (or in my case, ski quiver). So yeah the average annual footprint in the shithead countries like US and Canada is 16 tonnes and the global average is around 5, ie a lot of shithole countries are below 5.

Enter a vanity truck like the ram TRX. 0.5 kg CO2 per km. So a Texan driving say 12,000 miles a year is generating 10 tonnes CO2. That’s like 5+ round trip flights to Europe. To buy toilet paper at the mall, get some shrubs at Home Depot, visit your cousin in Utah. Not making a global warming point here…just a perspective on how relative to many countries and despite the massive economic inequality in the US, overall we are living like oligarchs on the global yardstick.

[skaredshtles]

Never let a good crisis go to waste eh?

I mean, I really do think gas prices should reflect at least some of the negative external “costs” caused by burning it. Cheap gas is not great for our planet long term.

Yeah - we should have been taxing the shit out of gas for the last 40 years... and funding stuff like *good* public transit, infrastructure, etc. People would have gotten used to $5-6/gal gas and we would mostly be driving small, efficient vehicles already. And we'd probably be WAY further ahead on the hybrid/electric vehicle front.

And now gas would be $9-10/gal with the current issues, and we'd have the flexibility of simply reducing the tax temporarily to alleviate the price spike. Reinstate it gradually as petro drops back down in future...

[AdironRider]

It is relatively amusing to see a bunch of TGR dentists telling the plebes to just buy a 40k (minimum) electric car already.

[SumJongGuy]

How's this fuel crisis (and conflict) going to impact skiing and travel, especially next season in Europe assuming Russia (and their energy) is still totally cancelled by the global community?

[SumJongGuy]

It is relatively amusing to see a bunch of TGR dentists telling the plebes to just buy a 40k (minimum) electric car already.

A decent used moped's $500 and you can still ride them in most states with multiple DWIs. Also much smaller footprint than an EV..

[El Chupacabra]

Thinking that this was good timing for buying a giant truck with a 7.3L gas engine and a 48 gallon tank...

[skaredshtles]

A decent used moped's $500 and you can still ride them in most states with multiple DWIs. Also much smaller footprint than an EV..

Electric moped, perhaps?

[SumJongGuy]

Electric moped, perhaps?

winner winner chicken dinner hahahahaha!

[frorider]

It is relatively amusing to see a bunch of TGR dentists telling the plebes to just buy a 40k (minimum) electric car already.

Feels like you’re intentionally missing the point when maggots are commenting on our consumption footprint or Tundra-to-go-skiing ‘needs’. If you want to paint it as an Us vs Them thing, have at it, but IRL and here I’m seeing people thinking through the implications of $6 gas like much of the western world has had for years.

[dunfree]

Electric moped, perhaps?

ebike.

Average new car purchase was almost $47k recently. I guess “bootstraps” don’t apply to that, they entitled to spend it on a gas guzzler

[skaredshtles]

ebike.

That's what I said.

[grskier]

It is relatively amusing to see a bunch of TGR dentists telling the plebes to just buy a 40k (minimum) electric car already.

Plenty of commuters available for under 40k

https://www.cars.com/shopping/result...=500&zip=81623

[The AD]

It is relatively amusing to see a bunch of TGR dentists telling the plebes to just buy a 40k (minimum) electric car already.

Nah, just the ones who would have bought a $50k gasser otherwise.

[oldnew_guy]

It is relatively amusing to see a bunch of TGR dentists telling the plebes to just buy a 40k (minimum) electric car already.

Yeah, but we are saying that about people driving $40k plus vehicles that get less than 20 mpg.

[dunfree]

Feels like you’re intentionally missing the point when maggots are commenting on our consumption footprint or Tundra-to-go-skiing ‘needs’. If you want to paint it as an Us vs Them thing, have at it, but IRL and here I’m seeing people thinking through the implications of $6 gas like much of the western world has had for years.

He’s just channeling the voice of the “real usa” who are poor to middle class white living rural or an exurb and therefore particularly exposed to gas prices because of long commutes and cultural preferences for “real” vehicles.

[oldnew_guy]

Plenty of commuters available for under 40k

https://www.cars.com/shopping/result...=500&zip=81623

With diesel at $5/gallon even my relatively high MPG sportwagen is a likely candidate to get replaced right now.

[gravitylover]

These gas prices are really tough to swallow when you need a large vehicle and do 300+ miles a day working. Getting a more efficient vehicle the size I need is only sort of possible and with the car market all blown up it's not feasible. No, a smaller vehicle isn't possible and to get 10mpg more would cost $40k or so and there's nothing electric on the market that would satisfy my work needs (yet). It's not always about making good decisions, changing habits or just sucking it up. In my case I don't earn if I don't travel and show up and I need to travel with very large samples or I have nothing to sell off of but I won't earn more by traveling more so it's the same earnings with dramatically increased costs. The solution is to add more brands to sell with each dealer visit which means a larger vehicle...

[sirbumpsalot]

It is relatively amusing to see a bunch of TGR dentists telling the plebes to just buy a 40k (minimum) electric car already.

Its called "elitism"...shit on the people below and wave the fists of envy and moral superiority that those above.

[XXX-er]

I get the youtoobes from grumpies diesel in florida, he did a monolog where he sez everyone lies about how many MPG they get and some simple math to point out all those diesel mods take too long to pay off

fuel is 1.95 CAN so depending on how you calculate it must be close to 10$ a gallon

[grskier]

These gas prices are really tough to swallow when you need a large vehicle and do 300+ miles a day working. Getting a more efficient vehicle the size I need is only sort of possible and with the car market all blown up it's not feasible. No, a smaller vehicle isn't possible and to get 10mpg more would cost $40k or so and there's nothing electric on the market that would satisfy my work needs (yet). It's not always about making good decisions, changing habits or just sucking it up. In my case I don't earn if I don't travel and show up and I need to travel with very large samples or I have nothing to sell off of but I won't earn more by traveling more so it's the same earnings with dramatically increased costs. The solution is to add more brands to sell with each dealer visit which means a larger vehicle...

What are you hauling as samples? Option for a hybrid minivan in the future?

[The AD]

Its called "elitism"...shit on the people below and wave the fists of envy and moral superiority that those above.

Perhaps a little, but also the realization that there are plenty of people who drive non-fuel efficient vehicles by choice. They can continue to do so, of course, but they're being hypocrites if they complain about the price of gas.