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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudfoot View Post
    Core Shot:

    I now have some more time on the 94s in different conditions. On groomers, bumps and soft chop the 186s do fine, but if you are thinking of the Enforcers as an all mountain ski for deeper snow I'd go with the 191s. I've got a bunch of longer fatter skis so the 186 94s are strictly for low tide in my case.
    Yeah I’m 160 on the 186….Go 191.

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    Great post, insightful and interesting take!

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    Day two on the 100

    Wayyyy different ski.

    Not sure it’s right to call it enforcer.

    Forebody is so soft. It’s weird. Lots of tip flappage.
    Can go fast on groomer. Still controllable. But not a missile.

    But it would be a fun old man ski.

    Super easy in bumps.
    Spreading some cream cheese today and yesterday.
    Kill all the telemarkers
    But they’ll put us in jail if we kill all the telemarkers
    Telemarketers! Kill the telemarketers!
    Oh we can do that. We don’t even need a reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    Day two on the 100

    Wayyyy different ski.

    Not sure it’s right to call it enforcer.

    Forebody is so soft. It’s weird. Lots of tip flappage.
    Can go fast on groomer. Still controllable. But not a missile.

    But it would be a fun old man ski.

    Super easy in bumps.
    Spreading some cream cheese today and yesterday.
    Is it the current 100 or the pre-2020 version? What length?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    Is it the current 100 or the pre-2020 version? What length?
    Current ski.

    Midget length. 186. If I bought them 191 for sure.
    Kill all the telemarkers
    But they’ll put us in jail if we kill all the telemarkers
    Telemarketers! Kill the telemarketers!
    Oh we can do that. We don’t even need a reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by cinnepa View Post
    yup..feel like elan and fischer also checking out the lighter, touring and freeride market too.
    some nice reviews on skiessentials.
    c vw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    Day two on the 100

    Wayyyy different ski.

    Not sure it’s right to call it enforcer.

    Forebody is so soft. It’s weird. Lots of tip flappage.
    Can go fast on groomer. Still controllable. But not a missile.

    But it would be a fun old man ski.

    Super easy in bumps.
    Spreading some cream cheese today and yesterday.
    Maybe you just suck at skiing?

    I’ve got those skis and I enforce the entire fucking mountain (unless it’s a powder day).


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Maybe you just suck at skiing?

    I’ve got those skis and I enforce the entire fucking mountain (unless it’s a powder day).

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    He's a bigger dude. 220-lbs from a post a few pages back. That's a lot of skier for a 186 Enforcer 100. I'm 200 and the 185's are definitely my old man/skiing with my blue groomer kids ski.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    He's a bigger dude. 220-lbs from a post a few pages back. That's a lot of skier for a 186 Enforcer 100. I'm 200 and the 185's are definitely my old man/skiing with my blue groomer kids ski.
    Yea. I’m 6ft about 175. I have the 186 but would love the 190+ version. Although the 186 has been money this season in the bumps.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Maybe you just suck at skiing?

    I’ve got those skis and I enforce the entire fucking mountain (unless it’s a powder day).


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    It’s a great ski. It’s a ski for the masses. It only goes to an 8.

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    Anybody have a chance to get on the Enforcer Unlimited 104. Picked up a pair based on strong reviews and because Ptex1 is awesome and I have a gear problem but haven't mounted them. Skied the regular 104 Free at Snowbird this past weekend and liked it but it took me a bit to get used to it since the tail had so much rocker. Was pretty fun on anything soft though!
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    Nobody here has reviewed them afaik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheK12 View Post
    Anybody have a chance to get on the Enforcer Unlimited 104. Picked up a pair based on strong reviews and because Ptex1 is awesome and I have a gear problem but haven't mounted them. Skied the regular 104 Free at Snowbird this past weekend and liked it but it took me a bit to get used to it since the tail had so much rocker. Was pretty fun on anything soft though!
    Skiessentials A/B was best I could find.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK47bp View Post
    Maybe you just suck at skiing?

    I’ve got those skis and I enforce the entire fucking mountain (unless it’s a powder day).


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bandit Man View Post
    He's a bigger dude. 220-lbs from a post a few pages back. That's a lot of skier for a 186 Enforcer 100. I'm 200 and the 185's are definitely my old man/skiing with my blue groomer kids ski.
    True that. Not fat. Yet.

    But my comment was coming from the 94 enforcer.
    That ski rails. And enforces.

    Coming from a lifetime of much stiffer charging skis.
    The 100 forebody is crazy soft to me.
    But I’m starting to like it. It’s so forgiving in bumps.
    And at speed it flaps like a Turkey vulture. And yet it’s still pretty stable hauling ass.

    It’s a cool ski
    Kill all the telemarkers
    But they’ll put us in jail if we kill all the telemarkers
    Telemarketers! Kill the telemarketers!
    Oh we can do that. We don’t even need a reason

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    Quote Originally Posted by Core Shot View Post
    True that. Not fat. Yet.

    But my comment was coming from the 94 enforcer.
    That ski rails. And enforces.

    Coming from a lifetime of much stiffer charging skis.
    The 100 forebody is crazy soft to me.
    But I’m starting to like it. It’s so forgiving in bumps.
    And at speed it flaps like a Turkey vulture. And yet it’s still pretty stable hauling ass.

    It’s a cool ski
    The Enforcer 100 has always been a ski that can be skied pretty hard, but you have to "back-off" to get the most out of it, if that makes sense.
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    To folks who have or have skied both E104 and E115. Is the E115:
    a) a wider E104?
    b) a wider E104 with a slightly stiffer tail?
    c) a wider E104 with a much stiffer tail?
    d) other?

    I have the 21/22 season E104 in 186. I am thinking about complementing it with an E115 for those few epic dumps in the PNW when the highways are not closed.

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    Can’t speak to PNW snow on the 115, but it has been my favorite inbounds pow ski that I’ve been on in a long time for CO.

    It feels super similar to e104 other than the way better ability to stomp airs, ski bigger raidius turns, and smash cut up pow with ease. I love the extra length too, allows me to stand a little taller.

    Tail doesn’t feel stiffer to me, again has similar characteristics to e104, in my opinion playful and able to charge. Two hard combos and reason everyone loves the Efrees. I think being Nordicas they get downplayed cause they’re not as cool as other hip skis out there, but when you look at shape/camber/rocker/build the frees are sick skis


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    Also, can’t wait to tour on these! Just mounted these up, can’t tell a whole lot from skinning in the resort on them, but same weight as my ravens and they feel from what I can tell exactly like my e104 frees on the down

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    The powder returned to Utah yesterday and the E115's were fantastic. So fun and loose in the powder, even in the lower-angle stuff I was finding in PC:

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    They are also fantastic skiing the cut up stuff later in the day. Of course, they are not light, and so if you try to dance through chop or bumps, you will feel that extra weight. However, they are completely competent at steam rolling or taking longer turns through chop.

    If I'm splitting hairs and saying what I would make different about the ski: I'd want it a bit* lighter, and I'd want to elongate the radius a little (from 21m to 23-24m). The short radius combined with the healthy rocker is probably what makes them so loose and surfy in powder, but when skiing fast on groomers back to the lift, I do notice when carving turns that the ski does not love being pushed into turns that are wider* than its radius. This is a small nitpick and probably not even worth mentioning, as the priority is soft snow and powder - where again, they are fantastic.

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    Hmmm I’d have to disagree as on soft groomers I was making at least 3x the radius with comfort


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    And definitely don’t want a lighter ski


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    Quote Originally Posted by VON View Post

    If I'm splitting hairs and saying what I would make different about the ski: I'd want it a bit* lighter, and I'd want to elongate the radius a little (from 21m to 23-24m). The short radius combined with the healthy rocker is probably what makes them so loose and surfy in powder, but when skiing fast on groomers back to the lift, I do notice when carving turns that the ski does not love being pushed into turns that are wider* than its radius. This is a small nitpick and probably not even worth mentioning, as the priority is soft snow and powder - where again, they are fantastic.
    I would lower the amount of tail rise. I have the E110 which I like but really dislike twin tips. I do like the slarvy tail release feel, but you can get that same feel with out as much tail rise. Love how you can drive the fronts and just push into whatever size radius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seapine View Post
    To folks who have or have skied both E104 and E115. Is the E115:
    a) a wider E104?
    b) a wider E104 with a slightly stiffer tail?
    c) a wider E104 with a much stiffer tail?
    d) other?

    I have the 21/22 season E104 in 186. I am thinking about complementing it with an E115 for those few epic dumps in the PNW when the highways are not closed.
    I have a 2019 Enforcer Pro (115 Free) and 186 Enforcer 104 Free. I also live outside of Seattle and ski Stevens and Alpental. The 115 is really just a slightly wider and slightly stiffer 191 Enforcer 110, which I skied for a few seasons but recently sold.

    I'd say that the stiffness in the tail between the 104 and 115 is similar, but the feel of the skis is notably different to me. The 115 rides more quiet and damp than the 104, IMO. Also, the 115 skis looser in the tail than the 104. For a 191, the 115 is fairly agile, but I prefer it in open spaces versus tight trees. The slightly softer 110 was much better tree ski for me. I really like the 115 for a place like Whistler, where you can ski high alpine deep snow and then deal with groomers and crud on the way back to the lift. It carves well for a wider ski and is on the high end of powder skis that nuke through crud and be un-phased. If you ever skied a Rustler 11 and wished for a burlier, looser version, that's the 115.
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    Here’s a review after my first tour on the unlimited 104s.

    I’m 6’ 180lbs, on a 186 unlimited 104 mounted at +1. I ski a Salomon s lab x-alp with pro tour liner and MTN bindings no brake.

    Yesterday went out for a tour in about 5” of new snow so can’t give an in depth review. The skiing was good and super easy which could have been fun on any ski honestly. I would say the most noticeable thing about them was how immediately familiar everything felt as my inbounds daily driver is a 186cm 104 e free. The uphill was easy transition from the ravens with such similar weights. I think it’s going to be pretty cool to have basically the same ski for inbounds and BC. I’ll add more as I get more days on em



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    Big comparison question for ya Banditman:
    Enforcer 115 vs. the 192cm M-Free 108!

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