To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[SumJongGuy]

Is what a Canadian Deplorable is?

https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/st...id-19-n2602600

Nope. the deplorable says fuck it EH! and goes skiing at a crowded resort

[XXX-er]

despicable looks worse than deplorable according to google

[riser4]

Are we still talking boot degens from up country?

[SumJongGuy]

Smart people are saying that the drop in documented cases is partially due to people testing at home and most of those don't get reported. Regardless, declining hospitalization rates is pretty good news.

[funkendrenchman]

Smart people are saying that the drop in documented cases is partially due to people testing at home and most of those don't get reported. Regardless, declining hospitalization rates is pretty good news.

Who are these "smart people?" Cases are following the same downward curve in Colorado and free at home tests have been available for 6+ months here.

Some effect, sure. Enough to change the curve? Not at this point.

[wooley12]

Why would someone testing negative at home want to report? I sure the hell wont when my free Biden tests get here.

[SumJongGuy]

Who are these "smart people?" Cases are following the same downward curve in Colorado and free at home tests have been available for 6+ months here.

Some effect, sure. Enough to change the curve? Not at this point.

Free at home tests still aren't available here... But, the ones sold at CVS and Sam's Club have been available off and on for 3 months now. That fits with the timeline perfectly. I've got 4 boxes in the cabinet right now. Millions of them have been sold beyond the free tests that are getting mailed out now..

[SumJongGuy]

Why would someone testing negative at home want to report? I sure the hell wont when my free Biden tests get here.

It's the positive tests not getting reported that are skewing the data.. Positive, but not hospital sick and they just stay home (hopefully) but it doesn't get reported to the health department/CDC like it would if they tested anywhere else.. Gotta be a lot (FUCKING LOT!) of people asymptomatic or mild that test at home and stay there now.. that would have gone to a testing center or Walgreens before they had the home testing option..

[bennymac]

This shouldn’t be hard

Is the fall off of positive cases due to omicron surge peaking and then being over?

We can’t really know based on cases numbers alone due to combination of 1) testing facilities getting overwhelmed and therefore “blocking” testing capacity 2) people relying more on home tests that aren’t always being reported 3) people being told (rightfully) if you have consistent symptoms you likely have it (these are the cases not even doing home tests let alone reporting them)

So we’re left to watching hospitalizations and death rates - if they fall off in a similar fashion that points to being on backside of omicron surge.

^My humble opinion - smrter people here can chime in with corrections

[SumJongGuy]

This shouldn’t be hard

Is the fall off of positive cases due to omicron surge peaking and then being over?

We can’t really know based on cases numbers alone due to combination of 1) testing facilities getting overwhelmed and therefore “blocking” testing capacity 2) people relying more on home tests that aren’t always being reported 3) people being told (rightfully) if you have consistent symptoms you likely have it (these are the cases not even doing home tests let alone reporting them)

So we’re left to watching hospitalizations and death rates - if they fall off in a similar fashion that points to being on backside of omicron surge.

^My humble opinion - smrter people here can chime in with corrections

Hospitalizations is what matters most. That's what determines our ability to open things up or having to shut things down.. And again, again.. It's not "just like the flu" until there are not more COVID cases in the ICUs than there are flu cases in the ICUs

[bennymac]

trolls and tools like Bunny who don’t have the stomach for this (because they’re starting to see a faint light at the end of the tunnel signifying the backside of life) will instead lash out at the doctors for mislabeling hospitalizations and deaths as covid in order to fill their pocketbooks - parroting the dumbest of ideas from the far right and undereducated. Doctors would like nothing more than for this to be over.

[TNKen]

Ballad Health System update for E TN and SW VA. 21 total facilities.

Last Friday 883 employees out with Covid of about 10,000 staff.
44% positivity rate system wide.

[liv2ski]

Ballad Health System update for E TN and SW VA.
44% positivity rate system wide.

Fuck

[NakedShorts]

So you are saying the death rate is much lower?

[The AD]

Total number of deaths up 30% from two weeks ago. The death rate might be lower because the total number of cases is so high, but until that absolute number of deaths goes down we've still got a serious problem.

[SumJongGuy]

44% positivity rate system wide.

This is why they shifted to 5 days isolation then can come back with a mask if you feel up to working even if still positive.. That cuts the temporary attrition in half of the 10 day rule..

[bodywhomper]

This is why they shifted to 5 days isolation then can come back with a mask if you feel up to working even if still positive.. That cuts the temporary attrition in half of the 10 day rule..

And puts likely contagious staff back into rotation.

[SumJongGuy]

And puts likely contagious staff back into rotation.

Behind good masks hopefully.. Folks are out shuffling through lift corrals skiing without anything.

[funkendrenchman]

WOOHOO!

Pfizer and BioNTech are requesting emergency use authorization for their two-dose Covid-19 vaccine for children age 6 months up to 5 years, the companies said Tuesday.

The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is already authorized for use in people as young as 5, and if authorized, this shot would be the first Covid-19 vaccine available for the youngest children. The companies are continuing to test a three-dose version of the vaccine in this younger age group.

In December, Pfizer extended its vaccine in trial in younger children after two child-sized doses of the vaccine did not produce the expected immunity in the 2- to 5-year-olds, although it did so for the babies up to age 2.

For people age 12 and older, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine dose is 30 micrograms of vaccine, and for kids ages 5 to 11, it was stepped down to 10 micrograms. The dose for the youngest children is even lower – 3 micrograms a dose.

CNN reported earlier on Tuesday that Pfizer was encouraged to seek authorization for the two-dose vaccine by federal regulators, who hope the EUA can be granted by late February. Waiting on data for three doses could extend the wait until March.

“If the goal of the vaccine is to get baseline immunity in the kids – to prevent really bad outcomes and you're really not using the vaccine as a tool to prevent infection in the first place – two doses could do that," Dr. Scott Gottlieb, a former FDA commissioner and current Pfizer board member, said on CBS on Sunday. "I think that may be why federal health officials are rethinking this.”

[SumJongGuy]

^^^That is excellent news. I'd be pretty freaked out if our kids were still little. I remember taking them to get the H1N1 vax when they were toddlers.. We stood in line at the local National Guard Armory. So glad you folks with little ones can finally add a significant level of protection to their vax arsenal..

[BC.]

3 of the 4 school districts in our Pike and Wayne Counties here in PA are now mask optional…..My district is the last holdout….the rumor is that at our next school board meeting we are joining the ranks of the mask optional.

We have been in person from Day 1 without any huge surges in our community….so I guess going mask optional is the first step back.

Gonna be surreal to finally see faces of kids I’ve had for 2 years…..

[JONG SLAUGHTER]

trolls and tools like Bunny who don’t have the stomach for this (because they’re starting to see a faint light at the end of the tunnel signifying the backside of life) will instead lash out at the doctors for mislabeling hospitalizations and deaths as covid in order to fill their pocketbooks - parroting the dumbest of ideas from the far right and undereducated. Doctors would like nothing more than for this to be over.

YEAH, EXCEPT DOCTORS DON'T OWN THE HOSPITALS THEY WORK FOR.........DUMBASS. HOSPITALS ARE FOR PROFIT AND MAKE MORE WITH ICU BEDS FULL. DOCTORS AREN'T THE HOSPITALS, YA LEFTIST FUCKTARD.

[bennymac]

Doctors fill out the admission forms.
Doctors fill out the codes.
Doctors fill out the death certificates.

If someone wants to say doctors are filling out the forms inappropriately because they bill more money by putting down covid I’m going to call them out on their bullshit.

If you think hospitals want their ICUs overcapacity and understaffed I’m going to
also be calling you a moron.

But keep going! You’re doing just great.

[JONG SLAUGHTER]

Doctors fill out the admission forms.
Doctors fill out the codes.
Doctors fill out the death certificates.

If someone wants to say doctors are filling out the forms inappropriately because they bill more money by putting down covid I’m going to call them out on their bullshit.

If you think hospitals want their ICUs overcapacity and understaffed I’m going to
also be calling you a moron.

But keep going! You’re doing just great.

YOU'RE EVEN DUMBER THAN I THOUGHT. YEAH, HOSPITALS WANT THEIR ROOMS EMPTY...IT'S A GREAT BUSINESS MODEL.....YA FUCKING IDIOT.

[bennymac]

There’s a middle ground you’re missing.

But please keep going - it’s both impressive and very intimidating.