Big fan of tour wraps here. Pro Tours are nice, for those who don't bond with wraps.
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Sorta a jong Q but…what alpine binders work with there ZGs (if any). I’m currently running tectons for in area parent skiing but I might like to go alpine (no I don’t have a dedicated alpine boot)
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I will highly advise not using them with Markers. There is something about the geometry of Markers that doesn't play well with softer/ less dense plastics in a lot of touring boots. Had to warranty a pair because of a Tour 12 chewing up mine and the guys at Technica advised against it. Had to use the warranty replacement pair for a few months in some Marker Lords and there is dents in the heel ledge from it. Used them with Wardens without that problem
TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.
My tyrolia attack ats seem to be playing nicely with my zero gs. There's also the warden mnc.
A question for everyone with Pro Tours - did you size up or down? I'm a 25.5 shell.
I’m in a snug performance fit (5-10mm maybe?) in my alpine boots (Promachines), and ski a size up from that in my ZGTPs.
I’ve thrown a tour wrap with some solid j bars and a very (very) small spoiler in to the shells. My local fitter took a stand that if I’m going to spend 6-8-10 hours in these boots, I’m asking for trouble if I try for a similar level of fit. After someone I know through the grapevine lost some toes this winter on a long cold day in the BC, I’m glad I did.
I ski 27.5 cochise pros inbounds and have skied 27.5s for the last 12 years. 27.5 ZGTP shell fit was almost 2 fingers, so I sized down to 26.5 for a slightly bigger than a 1 finger fit, then punched the big toes. Stock liners. I've put 8 or so touring days this year and they are my best fitting boots I've had in years. No cold toes on a few near zero degrees F days, either.
Edit: Now I see that this was for intuition pro tour liners in the tour pro boot. Disregard, but I'll leave this here anyway in case anyone is wondering what size shell to get
My intuitions are the MV matching the shell.
Or do you mean what's your ZGTP in relation to my other boots? I have 26.5 Salomon Xmax's in 26.5, but I went with the 27.5 ZGTP (to both accommodate my massive instep volume without boot work since I got them on prodeal release year). Should probably be in the 26.5 with bootboard/ shell work.
TLDR; Ski faster. Quit breathing. Don't crash.
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Formerly Rludes025
Pick your intuition size based off your foot size, not your boot size. eg. if you are a 3/4 finger fit in a 25 shell, go for a 26 liner. If you are a 2 finger fit in a 25, go for a 25. That way you get more toe room if your boots are tight and better contact if your boots are big.
Sorry I consider 25/25.5 boots the same thing. Pro tours/Tour Wraps are 25. Full Tilt tour wraps are 25.5. They are both only sold that way for a 25/25.5.
Now I understand what you are trying to point out that I just wasn't understanding: Saying a 25 would be dropping down from the 25.5 vs as a 26 obviously being an up.
a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
Formerly Rludes025
Exactly, they don't exist.
For what its worth, which isn't much... I have sold and fit a lot of Intuition liners. I always would match up the soles and go with what was closest unless I was was attempting to alter fit. I ordered myself 25 Tour Wraps right when I heard they may exist, There wasn't really any good info on them yet. The stock liner does kind of fit in the middle of a 25 and 26, I am sure either would work.
a positive attitude will not solve all of your problems, but it may annoy enough people to make it worth the effort
Formerly Rludes025
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