ON3P SKIS Discussion

[XavierD]

Almost snagged those jefferies off of facebook marketplace but decided to pass. Glad a mag got em. Cool topsheet

They have been mine. Decided to hang on to them

[XavierD]

Why not Tecton-ify? A bit of both worlds?

They really are

[Eluder]

I wouldn't put CAST on a current ON3P tour ski. Then again, I wouldn't put CAST on anything. I just don't ski anywhere that "tours like a heavy tech binding but skis like an alpine binding" is at all useful.

I'm very happy with tech bindings on my BG Tours.

Yeah, CAST is probably the wrong move for these but have a place were I ski.

Why not Tecton-ify? A bit of both worlds?

Was just looking at a pair... and also sold a pair I never mounted not too long ago...

[kid-kapow]

the current ON3P part of my quiver:



travel skis:
ON3P Woodsman102 182 50/50 layup w/ Tectons
ON3P Woodsman110 182 50/50 layup w/ Tectons

Resort specific quiver:
ON3P Woodsman 96 182 w/Castified Pivots
ON3P Woodsman 108 182 w/Pivots
ON3P BillyGoat110 182 - to be mounted with Pivots (or Cast if I decide to sell the wood116s)
ON3P Woodsman 110 182 w/Castified Pivots
ON3P Woodsman 116 182 w/Castified Pivots
ON3P BillyGoat116 asyms 184 - will probably get Pivots - might be different enough to BG118s to warrant keeping both as the asyms are a bit stiffer
ON3P BillyGoat118 182 w/Castified Pivots

The current plan is to sell my wood108s, wood116s and BGasyms after trying them back to back with the new skis, but time will tell what happens. And yes, I got a bit carried away when I created the travel quiver, but had the Tectons and really wanted to give the 50/50 layup a go - so... oh well.

[Tahoepa]

the current ON3P part of my quiver:



travel skis:
ON3P Woodsman102 182 50/50 layup w/ Tectons
ON3P Woodsman110 182 50/50 layup w/ Tectons

Resort specific quiver:
ON3P Woodsman 96 182 w/Castified Pivots
ON3P Woodsman 108 182 w/Pivots
ON3P BillyGoat110 182 - to be mounted with Pivots (or Cast if I decide to sell the wood116s)
ON3P Woodsman 110 182 w/Castified Pivots
ON3P Woodsman 116 182 w/Castified Pivots
ON3P BillyGoat116 asyms 184 - will probably get Pivots - might be different enough to BG118s to warrant keeping both as the asyms are a bit stiffer
ON3P BillyGoat118 182 w/Castified Pivots

The current plan is to sell my wood108s, wood116s and BGasyms after trying them back to back with the new skis, but time will tell what happens. And yes, I got a bit carried away when I created the travel quiver, but had the Tectons and really wanted to give the 50/50 layup a go - so... oh well.

Damn! Well done and sinister as fuck! Curious ur thoughts on the Woods 108 versus 110. The more directional mount point has me wondering. Gonna steal my kids 110’s one of these days versus my 108 tours. Love that C&D topsheet from two years ago as well! So spooky…..


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[on3pbg]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on the new BG 110 tour? I picked them up as my touring/5-10cm resort days and put cast on them.
I still can say that I enjoy the ASYM BGs that I’ve got over my updates BGs.
Just referring to fresh now, I still find the ASYM design works so much better in soft spots then the updated version.
Does anyone else agree?


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[Marko888]

What’s everyone’s thoughts on the new BG 110 tour? I picked them up as my touring/5-10cm resort days and put cast on them.
I still can say that I enjoy the ASYM BGs that I’ve got over my updates BGs.
Just referring to fresh now, I still find the ASYM design works so much better in soft spots then the updated version.
Does anyone else agree?


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i have the stock core BG 110’s in a 182. They weigh 2080 and 2100 grams. Compared to my ASYM 116’s, which are 2300 gram 184’s, the 110’s are much quicker turning so a bit less stable. They are similarly less catchy than my woodman 108’s, but not the same monster trucks in chop that the 116’s are. I think I prefer the non ASYM tail so far.

[kid-kapow]

Curious ur thoughts on the Woods 108 versus 110. The more directional mount point has me wondering.

I think the biggest difference is the reworked flex pattern to be fair, not the mount point. They hand flex a fair bit differently, so I can't wait to get on them.

Oh, and yes - Wood108s are mounted at -1cm from recommended, while le Wood116s are mounted -8mm or -11mm, can't recall though I think the latter.

I still find the ASYM design works so much better in soft spots then the updated version.
Does anyone else agree?

I think the difference in feel that you describe is more down to 110 vs 116 than sym vs asym or updated vs previous design.

I found my BG108tours (symmetrical) to ski a little bit differently than asyms, in that they need a more forward stance to shine (for me at least). 6mm doesn't seem like a lot, but it actually makes for a bit of difference - especially when you factor in the difference in mass between a tour ski and the standard layup.

I will report back when I get time on my pairs.

new BGs

man, I can't get over how cool that graphic is. Would you terribly mind posting a picture of the tails as well?

[CallMeAl]

Has anyone spent time on the new Woodsman 110? Have they successfully improved the tail from the Woodsman 108?

I ski WD108s as my DD, and have about 10 days in on my WD110 tours.

The 110 tail does come around a bit quicker with less effort than on my 108s. This is most noticeable to me at low/medium speeds. I'm sure the tour vs. stock layup also contributes to this, but figured it was worth mentioning anyway.

[f=ma]

I still can say that I enjoy the ASYM BGs that I’ve got over my updates BGs.
Just referring to fresh now, I still find the ASYM design works so much better in soft spots then the updated version.
Does anyone else agree?

I agree. I got a few days on the new update BG118 and I found the old ASYM BG116 to slash/release a lot easier at slower speeds. The new ones seem to want a little more speed, imo. Still having a blast though.

[optics]

^^^ I think maybe the mount point moved back a bit? That could be part of it?

[scmartin69]

Grizzlycorn Woods 108 in 187cm. Had to go ~+7mm because of a hole conflict, but man just looking at these things gives me a boner...

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[Bandit Man]

I agree. I got a few days on the new update BG118 and I found the old ASYM BG116 to slash/release a lot easier at slower speeds. The new ones seem to want a little more speed, imo. Still having a blast though.

What length are you on on the BG118? I think I have bumped into you at Stevens a few times. Where are you skiing this year?

[mtskibum16]

Just got my WD108s patched up from a core shot last year. They and my BGs are all packed and ready to hit the road for the holidays.

[f=ma]

What length are you on on the BG118? I think I have bumped into you at Stevens a few times. Where are you skiing this year?

I went with the 187 length. Yeah, we've ran into each a few times, I'm usually rolling with a crew of ON3P's. I'll be riding Stevens frequently this year, come say hi! (I've got the custom botanical topsheets)

[kid-kapow]

^^^ I think maybe the mount point moved back a bit? That could be part of it?

I have said so before in this thread, but I have this hypothesis that the largest difference between the asyms and BG118s for me is going to be flatter/stiffer (asym) vs softer/more camber (BG118).

It kinda makes sense to me that a ski with more camber feels a tad more locked in at slower speeds even if it is softer, but still retain the superb suspension and looseness at speed. After all, the shape/balance point of the skis are really similar.

I could be way off here, so it will def be interesting to test them.

oh and yes - since I got a question about it, I still run Contour Hybrid Split skins with the Castified skis. They work really well across most widths, are light and give more than enough traction for my needs. The only thing they are not great at is doing multiple laps in really wet snow, which is fine.

[aanev]

oh and yes - since I got a question about it, I still run Contour Hybrid Split skins with the Castified skis. They work really well across most widths, are light and give more than enough traction for my needs. The only thing they are not great at is doing multiple laps in really wet snow, which is fine.

I also tried Contour Hybrid Split skins but the effort to make them work during snowfall was simply too much for my liking, so I passed them to a friend.

[f=ma]

Another day today on the BG118 at Steven's on a pow day. In case anyone had any doubts, the BG118 are still the King of Resort Pow.

[bigdeaner14]

Another day today on the BG118 at Steven's on a pow day. In case anyone had any doubts, the BG118 are still the King of Resort Pow.

Amen.

[phatty]

Another day today on the BG118 at Steven's on a pow day. In case anyone had any doubts, the BG118 are still the King of Resort Pow.

Love to hear it. Can't wait to get my customs.

[carlh]

Got out on my super goats today at alpy for the first time in a few years today and they might take issue with this statement.

Another day today on the BG118 at Steven's on a pow day. In case anyone had any doubts, the BG118 are still the King of Resort Pow.

[on3pbg]

If anyone wants to part with their 187/192 BG 118, do let me know.


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[Bandit Man]

The spawn of Bandit Man had a Merry ON3P Christmas this morning!

[::: :::]

That top sheet does rock

[sk8rat6587]

Merry Christmas indeed. Those topsheets look awesome.

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