To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[XXX-er]

my ex-wife was an admitting clerk at Surrey memorial (only 12km from Worshington ) so they would get Americans in the ER all the time but that would be about no insurance not overcrowding, also lotsa uninsured folks on vaca from India cuz Surrey has the largest EI population in Canada but she said they never denied service to anyone

in the last week or 2 there has been such a high case rate in the Northern health ICU's that they shipped them all to Vancover island which is 800 kms away , I had a friend who was in a car accident localy whom they shipped 250kms away cuz the local ICU was full of covidiots

[TNKen]

^^^ That's crazy -

something about this pic.ture is broken -

you have my empathy
( I don't know how you even function in that environment... ) -

is the hospital Full (?)

'... overcrowded for years... '
someone needs to work on that model ( that cannot be Good health care delivery )
( are these patients also using the hospital as temporary shelter (? ? ) )


'sorry - holy thread drift, Batman...

skiJ

Yeah, wife is a case manager and she and the staff are under tremendous pressure to turn beds. This is the case in all the local facilities.

[Adolf Allerbush]

Yeah, wife is a case manager and she and the staff are under tremendous pressure to turn beds. This is the case in all the local facilities.

Has it been worse under the pandemic or just more of the same?

[CarlMega]

Well, looks like Australia is the new country host for the authoritarian-disinformation crowd. Doesn't seem like its gaining as much traction as the states. I appreciate their officials using direct language like: "drunken, fascist, un-Australian morons" & “fucken grubs”. Contrast that with the American sensibilities who are still butt-hurt over an old lady once calling them deplorable like 7 years ago.

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SYDNEY—As Tucker Carlson launches into unhinged tirades about Australia’s “destructive” and “crazy” anti-COVID measures, a virus outbreak linked to a violent anti-vaccine riot is ripping through the Australian city of Melbourne, infecting at least 20 people so far, including a baby.

Disgruntled over vaccine mandates, a mob of rioters blockaded the headquarters of the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU)—one of the most powerful workers’ unions in the southern hemisphere—late last month. Since the clash, at least five union officials have tested positive for COVID. Another 126 people became “primary close contacts,” and, according to branch secretary John Setka, the disease has spread to family members.

“One of the members, 14 in his family and counting have got it,” Setka, who labelled the rioters as “drunken, fascist, un-Australian morons,” told the nation’s public broadcaster on Wednesday morning. “We have got a case of a four-month-old toddler who has got it. Young children, grandparents. It is just absolutely terrible. Some of them are seriously unwell.”

A news cameraman who covered the angry protests, framed around a vehement opposition to a vaccine mandate in the construction industry, has also tested positive.

A CFMEU Victoria/Tasmania branch official who was not authorized to speak publicly told The Daily Beast the rioters were “fucken grubs” and put union members and their families in real danger.

“The whole reason we exist is to keep our members safe and these fucken grubs have come here trying to start trouble, they’ve spread the virus and now innocent people have been caught up in it,” he said. “And they’re being egged on by the spivs in the conservative media who have always hated the unions because it serves two of their purposes: Spreading lies and putting the union in a difficult position.”

The superspreader demonstration ignited a series of other clashes that were co-opted by networks seeking to sow disinformation and discord. In Australia, where Rupert Murdoch controls a significant portion of the traditional media landscape, the groups have received validation from parts of the Sky News Australia network. The symbiosis was borne in early August when YouTube banned the pay television broadcaster for several days and permanently removed some of its content because the videos violated the tech giant’s medical misinformation policies.

For the past few days, at least, there has been a bizarre, real-world cross-pollination between American and Australian conspiracy elements. A week ago, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis told a boat builders’ conference that he wasn't sure whether Australia is “freer than communist China right now.” “I don’t know. The fact that’s even a question tells you something’s gone dramatically off the rails,” he said at the convention in Tampa.

Two days ago, so-called “freedom” marchers in New York ended their demonstration outside the Australian consulate in Midtown where they announced they were going to “hold the line for Australia” and “save” the country.

The first round of protests in Melbourne, attended by a person who was already infectious with the deadly Delta variant of the pathogen, contained a contingent of aggrieved construction workers and union members but was largely infiltrated by conspiracy theorists, rightwing agitators and fringe, anti-vaxxer elements of the wellness industry.

The Daily Beast has been told by a state government official that, of the 126 close contacts identified within the union, 70 percent have so far tested negative for COVID-19. But in a state that is now experiencing its worst outbreak since the pandemic began 20 months ago, vaccination rates are still not at levels that will contain the spread. By Wednesday, only about 54 percent of the population aged 16 and over had received both doses of the jab.

Construction boss Setka told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation the massive spike in Victorian case numbers to 1,763 in a single day on Tuesday—almost 2.5 times the peak of the worst wave in the state last year—could “definitely” be linked to the marchers. “And it’s just so irresponsible,” he said. “This could lead to people dying.”

An outlaw motorcycle gang member known as “The Destroyer” who attended the union office protest revealed earlier this week on his Instagram account that he spent time in intensive care after contracting the virus. “Just got out of ICU. COVID is real,” he wrote.

This week, Australian journalist Sharri Markson launched a book about the purported origins of the virus in a Wuhan lab with Fox News host Tucker Carlson and her colleague from Sky News, Chris Kenny. Toward the end of the event, Carlson said it was courageous English people who did more than anyone else to change the world.

“And to see their descendants—which is us. You, me, Canada, New Zealand—display the spirit of obedience and cravenness. I am ashamed to watch it,” he said. “Where are the fiercely independent Americans? Where the hell are the people who founded the country? Where are their great-grandchildren? Hiding in doors because of a virus? Where are the men?”

Chris Kenny, who is also a columnist with News Corporation’s The Australian newspaper, said in response: “Thank you for calling it out, Tucker Carlson. I think you’re absolutely right.”

Despite the urgent “Save Australia!” chants that echoed through the streets of New York City this week, Australians have been quite adept at saving themselves once the federal government finally boosted vaccine supplies from the middle of the year. The two most populous states, NSW and Victoria, together with the nation’s capital territory, have been recording first-dose vaccination levels higher than almost anywhere else in the world.

On Wednesday, NSW reached the milestone of 70 percent double dose vaccinations among those aged over 16.

[ill-advised strategy]

Oh The Destroyer, we barely knew yeh..

[skiJ]

dude -

the "officials" using that language, are Union 'officials' - they aren't elected officials or political appointees...

compare that to union activities in the USofA from the 1930s to the 1970s. . .


so there is a crowd in New York marching on the Australian consulate (?)

the phrase that comes to mind is,


haters are going to hate...


good luck. skiJ

[SumJongGuy]

I’m confident the shit poster will use this time out to carefully re-read this thread, and in a blaze of insight he’ll see that in fact his repetitive points were patiently countered with facts more times than he deserved, and he’ll realize how he missed the bigger picture & will return a changed man.

Or not.

More like

"This one time at BANNED CAMP..."

[CarlMega]

dude -
the "officials" using that language, are Union 'officials' - they aren't elected officials or political appointees...

I've been told I'm an official [something or an other] many, many times.

[Buster Highmen]

[dunfree]

I've been told I'm an official [something or an other] many, many times.

This is a former pm of Australia

[seano732]

With regards to the US Heathcare system, this guy fucking NAILS it:
https://twitter.com/dglaucomflecken/...417220609?s=21

[dunfree]

I'm all for going back to the halcyon days of American media not paying any attention whatsoever to us (and NZ) again.

you just want to Harold holt some more politicians.

[skiJ]

Los Angeles vaccination mandate -

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/c...tions/2708093/


tj

[SumJongGuy]

Los Angeles vaccination mandate -

https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/c...tions/2708093/


tj

[Bunion 2020]

Aus hasn't had this much attention paid to it since the 2000 Olympics. And before the Olympics, the last time anyone cared was probably during the Great Emu War:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War

I'm all for going back to the halcyon days of American media not paying any attention whatsoever to us (and NZ) again.

Canada, we're all one big happy Commonwealth family so we still cool. Can we come over for Christmas dinner this year please?

The one reassuring note of the Au unrest over Vax/mask mandates is that people are people no matter how funny they talk and the weirdness that seems uniquely American really isn't anything special.

Best of luck you buncha ex-convicts.

[mcski]

This is a former pm of Australia

Good ol Bob had the world record for downing a yard glass.

The bagwan did plenty of injections as well but eff that kook scammer

[Benny Profane]

You know the weird kid in 10th grade everyone avoided, and you felt disturbed when you caught his eyes in the hallway? Or the acid causality who, face it, was awesome to goof on at parties around the bong, just to get him going again? Well, they went into politics.

https://www.newsweek.com/new-hampshi...tacles-1635950

[Benny Profane]

Holy shit.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/cr...uwm-story.html

[seano732]

Holy shit.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/cr...uwm-story.html

We are living the End of Days……JFC.

[yeahman]

Holy shit.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/cr...uwm-story.html

Nothing to do with the vaccine, just a paranoid nutjob killing people.

[SumJongGuy]

Nothing to do with the vaccine, just a paranoid nutjob killing people.

Yep, could have just as easily been "didn't stand for da anthum at the game".. or "hired illegal aliens".. or "sold plan B".. or..

[Benny Profane]

Yeah, and, guns dont kill people...

[yeahman]

Yeah, and, guns dont kill people...

...people with guns kill people.

[JimmyCarter]

...people with guns kill people.

I’m sorry, he was looking for “…Hillary Clinton kills people”

[mcski]

What useful purpose does VAERs serve? There must be something smart people extract from it, but the only time I ever see it reference is by crayon eating morons misinterpreting a bunch of random data entry fails