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Thread: To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asspen View Post
    Regardless of beliefs, Owens is trying to play ball and get tested which best serves the public health, correct?

    Where is the outrage from the Dems who should be admonishing this testing center for failing to "do their part" and help protect public health?

    Different rules for republicans. That's her outrage.

    Incorrect you fucking idiot. She was getting tested to gain entry to a jazz festival or get on a plane. Not for the greater good...that concept means nothing to her.

    Had she gotten a positive test, she would have found a way to fake her way in. She is all about her own self interest (I don't believe I need to explain the concept of self interest to the guy with the Monty Burns avatar who pleasures himself to Ayn Rand pictures and Gordon Gecko movie clips).

    She might have later announced that she had Covid, but only if she saw an angle to make money off of it.

    The party of "fuck your feelings" is really the party of whiny fragile people with their panties in a bunch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf Allerbush View Post
    I think it's a lot easier than anyone wants to admit. Let's say it's tied to your DL or state issued ID. As you get various vaccinations your record is updated in a database, similar to where we log peoples moving infractions. When you go to present your ID the database is queried and wherever you are at in the course of getting vaccinations (i.e., dose 1, dose 2, booster) is provided. Private business can set their own requirements for entry, if any. Now, if you are ID less then that's where the state can issue complementary IDs so it's not a burden on the poor. If you're a minor it is understood that your parents vaccination status is going to be sufficient.

    I need to spend some time looking at the stats of what percentage of the population has no state issued ID. It has to be relatively small.
    A DL or current state ID cards would need to be scannable, and only for vaccine status. My CA DL as what looks like a long narrow QR code. I don't know if that is readable by existing QR scanners, or do police carry special DL scanners. It also has a magnetic strip. If we wanted to scan existing DL's for vaccine info we would have to provide every venue with a scanner that somehow only accesses the vaccine info. Every vaccinated 12-16 year old and every older teen without a DL would have to get a state ID. It's all doable of course, as is a separate secure hard copy vaccine card, just not on a time scale to deal with a pandemic. I think CDC cards and mandatory masking will have to suffice, with digital cards for those who want them or for venues that want to market themselves as super safe. I could see an upscale cruise ship for example requiring secure vaccine ID, while Carnival just asks if you've been vaccinated and takes your word for it.

    My CA digital card uses a QR code.

    I just scanned my DL QR code. It's just my name. Maybe the cops can do more with it.
    Last edited by old goat; 09-03-2021 at 07:11 PM.

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    Just checking in to say fuck Candace Owens and anyone defending her. Have a great long weekend Mags!

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    My kids often boot-up at home. If it’s a slow drive, sometimes the boots come flying off. Then it’s booting up in the lot. blizzards are the best for that situation.

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    I can change in the backseat of my PU, in the parking lot. Had a locker, gave it up. Covid, duh.
    I have been in this State for 30 years and I am willing to admit that I am part of the problem.

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    My observation after a multi day catch up… The Unicorn is on point and owned that section.
    Gary Clark Jr is fucking legit live and Candace must not be very aware of his lyrics or life. That publicity whore got to be front facepage when she took a heavy slant against black rights during all of our recent unrest related to George Floyd. Allowing the maga universe to spread a strange message and justification leading to additional discord and violence. Fuck. That. Sellout. Bitch.

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    Seems like either Candace or her assistant probably made it clear she wouldn't be wearing a mask or following their protocol for the concierge service. Which triggered all the extra work/research/response from the testing facility.

    Or maybe they take this time to look into all their concierge clients like that. If so, I'm sure the fee reflects that discerning nature. Many desire the trappings of a genuinely elite lifestyle, but some must always be disappointed. Such is life. Uncle Tom got a cabin out of the way, not a cabin in a private jet.

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    The Patriot Prayer guys and the 3%ers lover Candace Owens. They get to pretend that they're not racist and say "I have this Black friend who agrees with me".
    They also love to terrorize kids and put schools on lockdown.

    https://komonews.com/news/local/anti...-into-lockdown

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    When you see something that is not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to say something. To do something." Rep. John Lewis


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    Towards the bottom, Benny's article mentions why Israel's case rate is so high: "Around half the new diagnoses in Israel are in children."

    With schools open and few restrictions 33% of cases are <11 yrs, 17% aged 12-19. That's about 50% confounded compared with other countries who either do not test those ages, do not report results for those ages, and/or do not vaccinate teens. Alarming headlines are not accounting for demographics.

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    Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances

    https://kfor.com/news/local/patients...ls-ambulances/

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    Quote Originally Posted by TG View Post
    Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances

    https://kfor.com/news/local/patients...ls-ambulances/
    My horseshoer, an old school cowboy from Wyoming by way of Texas who now lives in Idaho, told me his youngest son is taking Ivermectin. He said he's no longer talking to him, at least about Covid. Shoer got vaxxed first chance he got. He's a liberal cowboy.
    Last edited by KQ; 09-04-2021 at 09:27 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MultiVerse View Post
    Towards the bottom, Benny's article mentions why Israel's case rate is so high: "Around half the new diagnoses in Israel are in children."

    With schools open and few restrictions 33% of cases are <11 yrs, 17% aged 12-19. That's about 50% confounded compared with other countries who either do not test those ages, do not report results for those ages, and/or do not vaccinate teens. Alarming headlines are not accounting for demographics.
    I, and I'm sure many others, are grateful that you have the patience to wade through this stuff--especially the Israeli covid dashboard which makes as much sense to me in English as it does in Hebrew. At this point my mind is numb to statistics--not that it wasn't numb before the pandemic. We appreciate you taking the time to tell us what it all really means.


    Quote Originally Posted by TG View Post
    Patients overdosing on ivermectin backing up rural Oklahoma hospitals, ambulances

    https://kfor.com/news/local/patients...ls-ambulances/
    Interesting that they use gunshot victims to garner sympathy for people being denied care because of the covidiots. Usually it's heart attack and stroke patients. I guess I don't understand rural Oklahoma.

    Thread drift. Back in maybe the 90's it was discovered that levamisole, another veterinary dewormer, was effective against colon cancer. Suddenly the price went from pennies a pill to 100's of dollars--although the research proving it's effectiveness was not done by the manufacturer. It was later withdrawn from human use due to side effects. I don't recall what regulatory steps were taken. I believe the drug had been previously FDA approved for human use for worms so no further FDA action was needed for off-label use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by old goat View Post
    I, and I'm sure many others, are grateful that you have the patience to wade through this stuff--especially the Israeli covid dashboard which makes as much sense to me in English as it does in Hebrew. At this point my mind is numb to statistics--not that it wasn't numb before the pandemic. We appreciate you taking the time to tell us what it all really means.
    + 1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benny Profane View Post
    Article states that serious illness and deaths still remain low.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KQ View Post

    Comment section absolutely full of people posting nonsense.
    We’re fucked man…holy shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ill-advised strategy View Post
    Comment section absolutely full of people posting nonsense.
    We’re fucked man…holy shit.
    I saw the exact thing. Went to bed depressed last night..

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    So my lone unvaxed friend said he got Moderna shot 1 yesterday (after he got back from tripping balls for four days at Phish at the Gorge). He's a teacher and is mandated to get both doses. He's previously had COVID (confirmed via test and symptoms). He read the study that shows those with the most robust antibodies are those previously infected with COVID and one shot of Moderna. He rather just get the one shot, but State of WA is making him get shot 2.

    I thought the general premise of vaccines is that the we only give people the bare minimum of the vaccine to get the result we want (or at least we strive for this, more or less). So why is WA making people like my friend get shot number 2? Is there any potential harm (both morally and/or medically) from getting vaccines that don't increase your immunity?

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    To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

    He shouldn’t get the second shot because he read some study on the internet?

    Does he have the credentials to actually read and understand the study?


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    Keystone is fucking lame. But, deadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    I thought the general premise of vaccines is that the we only give people the bare minimum of the vaccine to get the result we want
    Correct. Two shots. You come up with some really dumb shit, altasnob.

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    2 shots eh

    the real problem is that this fucking crayon eater is teaching your American youth
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    Quote Originally Posted by The AD View Post
    Correct. Two shots. You come up with some really dumb shit, altasnob.
    For some reason, this post really made me laugh. Thanks AD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by altasnob View Post
    So my lone unvaxed friend said he got Moderna shot 1 yesterday (after he got back from tripping balls for four days at Phish at the Gorge). He's a teacher and is mandated to get both doses. He's previously had COVID (confirmed via test and symptoms). He read the study that shows those with the most robust antibodies are those previously infected with COVID and one shot of Moderna. He rather just get the one shot, but State of WA is making him get shot 2.

    I thought the general premise of vaccines is that the we only give people the bare minimum of the vaccine to get the result we want (or at least we strive for this, more or less). So why is WA making people like my friend get shot number 2? Is there any potential harm (both morally and/or medically) from getting vaccines that don't increase your immunity?
    you're taking someone seriously who was, " tripping balls for four days at Phish at the Gorge", for real?
    sounds like a fictional friend you heard about while listening to far right radio

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