To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[old_newguy]

I don’t understand why the conspiracy contingent find a guy who apparently can’t hold down tenure at Evergreen credible, much less don’t cast a doubting eye on a guy who manages Peter Thiels money and has a grudge against academia.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Lol. Not sure how much of a "nutrition expert" dude is judging by his website where he hawks all his meal replacement and creatine saturated products. Read articles with him. Guy used to be a big time anabolic steroid user and proponent. Not shy about it in interviews. And what does that stuff do? Wait for it... fucks up your heart and lungs. In a nutshell, Phillips is fit and looks great on the outside, but I doubt his insides were in as good condition as the exterior would have you believe. Still sucks that happened to him, though. Seems like a nice guy.
https://eatingright.com/

Look, we have our own internal medicine consultant now.


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[jono]

And his scapegoat always is: I’m just an idiot telling dick jokes. Love his podcast and comedy but fuck, hate the other shit he brings...

Huh. Here I thought his most offensive claim was being a comedian.

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Vibes to your friend.
Ms TBS was in Redmond Fred Meyer Monday getting a third Pfizer shot. Compliance with mask mandate was about 50%.

An unmasked guy in front of her in checkout line was muttering about mask wearers. So she started muttering that obese guys wearing hubcap belt buckles was not a good look.

There was a dude in the store today muttering zombie, zombie, zombie as he was passing other mask wearing customers. So I acted like a zombie and walked straight at him until he swerved out of the way.


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[AK47bp]

There was a dude in the store today muttering zombie, zombie, zombie as he was passing other mask wearing customers. So I acted like a zombie and walked straight at him until he swerved out of the way.


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Would’ve of been hilarious if you asked him what isle the brains were in.


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[abraham]

Would’ve of been hilarious if you asked him what isle the brains were in.


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Vashon?

[MagnificentUnicorn]

Vashon?

Well, I’m in Wenatchee so Turtle Rock


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[AK47bp]

Vashon?

Ha

The typo kinda works.


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[mfcf13]

There was a dude in the store today muttering zombie, zombie, zombie as he was passing other mask wearing customers. So I acted like a zombie and walked straight at him until he swerved out of the way.


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It's not just random muttering. The guy believes it.

There is a conspiracy theory going around that "I am Legend" with Will Smith was a prediction of people taking a vaccine and becoming zombies. It's apparently been shared widely. The director had to point out an obvious flaw in the conspiracy theory: the nut jobs were claiming that the movie was set in 2021. It was set in 2012.

https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-58164833


At this point I would be relieved to find out that Deebased and his nut job friends have been drinking tap water tainted with LSD and that is why they are so fucking nuts. It boggles my mind that a person who isn't on a large amount of mind altering drugs would believe this shit.

[plugboots]

Jesus fucking christ I am so tired of these assholes not getting vaccinated. Fuck those motherfuckers, all of them.

[bennymac]

Seen on Facebook

“we went to the local feed store and purchased a syringe of horse ivermectin for around 13 bucks. We will have to juggle numbers, going form equine to human dose levels, before we begin prophylactic dosing (12mg/once weekly). But once we get that clear, then we can help others protect themselves without braving the risk, known and unknown, entailed by the vaccines. Under the current system of repression this is how things are being done from the bottom up.”

[jono]

Question for ICU folks. Is it normal now to allow visitors to a vented patient? Presumably after they test negative and, anything else?

My wife lost a family member today (and, no, of course not--sudden urgency for everyone else, though, now) and we're hearing they allowed in a visitor a day or so before she passed because she was out of isolation (still vented).

This is the second person I know who died after things seemed to start to look up. The other one even went home before a clot broke loose. Is that a common thing? Like, is the danger point after the contagiousness has passed? Really glad someone got to see her before the end, if only to be able to fill in the morbid, idle curiosity for the rest of her family.

[PB]

Our local feed store has had to pull all the ivermectin off the shelves, and only sells it to people with notes from a vet describing the specific need/application. Too bad it doesn't actually cure brain worms.

[jono]

Seen on Facebook

Did that come with the meme or did you add it? If that's a serious post I might know a serious doctor who needs to see why YouTube doesn't like his bullshit.

[MultiVerse]

Question for ICU folks. Is it normal now to allow visitors to a vented patient? Presumably after they test negative and, anything else?

My wife says prior to Covid they (a level 1 ICU in Utah) allowed visitors for vented patients during the day and, situationally, could remain in the room for hours but could not stay overnight. Now it's no visitors allowed for Covid patients and for non-Covid patients visitors are allowed but only one person and only for an hour.

[old goat]

Kaiser northern California: "As of August 11, 2021, new California Department of Public Health regulations require all visitors to the hospital show proof of vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test result taken within the previous 72 hours. In addition, all individuals entering the hospital will be screened for signs and symptoms of COVID-19 regardless of vaccination status. This is not applicable to those visiting lab, pharmacy or radiology, or those visiting critical condition and imminently dying patients. " Masks are required for everyone.

[The AD]

There is a conspiracy theory going around that "I am Legend" with Will Smith was a prediction of people taking a vaccine and becoming zombies. It's apparently been shared widely. The director had to point out an obvious flaw in the conspiracy theory: the nut jobs were claiming that the movie was set in 2021. It was set in 2012.

And the book was written in the '50s. Are they saying Matheson was actually some kind of psychic who could see into the future?

[KQ]

Would’ve of been hilarious if you asked him what isle the brains were in.


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And then when the guy said "what?!" You replied: "Grains... where are the grains... you know, flour, spelt, rye"

Make him doubt what he was sure he heard and freak the little anti-vaxxer out even more. Bwhahaha

[Deebased]

Hey you stoopid mother fuckers, get vaccinated.

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Whats surprising? The fat kid virus sometimes takes down a non-chubster., just like it'll take down a vaccinated person?

Being unvaccinated triples the risk of a severe outcome LA study released today. https://news.yahoo.com/u-data-show-r...181525317.html
Being a fat fuck also triples the risk of a severe outcome https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/obe...-covid-19.html

Getting Vaxed might keep you from dying of c19...getting skinny will help you in all aspects of life.

[bodywhomper]

My community lost one of its unofficial leaders to covid this week. He founded and ran the small all organic grocery and restaurant in town. He was a very kind, gentle, and friendly soul. One of my kid’s closest friends sat in his office every school day during distance learning, because it had a good internet connection, while his mom worked in the store. It might be a pretty rough day tomorrow.

[bennymac]

Did that come with the meme or did you add it? If that's a serious post I might know a serious doctor who needs to see why YouTube doesn't like his bullshit.

The meme was not part of the original post

[twat]

Our local feed store has had to pull all the ivermectin off the shelves, and only sells it to people with notes from a vet describing the specific need/application. Too bad it doesn't actually cure brain worms.

why ivermectin? out of all the great horse medicine,
i would always blindly trust ketamine to be the good one... folks don´t like to have fun
i would start with a daily dose of 0.2g per day taking during breakfast for 2weeks....
and than slowly start increasing for the full potential of this magic medicine : )

[summit]

Question for ICU folks. Is it normal now to allow visitors to a vented patient? Presumably after they test negative and, anything else?

My wife lost a family member today (and, no, of course not--sudden urgency for everyone else, though, now) and we're hearing they allowed in a visitor a day or so before she passed because she was out of isolation (still vented).

This is the second person I know who died after things seemed to start to look up. The other one even went home before a clot broke loose. Is that a common thing? Like, is the danger point after the contagiousness has passed? Really glad someone got to see her before the end, if only to be able to fill in the morbid, idle curiosity for the rest of her family.

In general, it depends on the hospital system. PreCovid the push was to get away from "closed ICUs" and "visiting hours." Think what you would want if you or your loved one was in the ICU? The norm was for most places/pts to allow 24 hour visitation in ICUs so long as the number and activity of visitors didn't interfere. Generally it was encouraged in most hospitals (strongly) that visitors limit to 2 or less at a time and not stay the night (except parents of minor children) and especially for a vented ICU patient. It's not easy to sleep for very long in such an environment, constant nursing interventions, hanging meds, adjusting pumps, alarms of all types... visitors are educated they must care for themselves first.

Visitors are typically never allowed in airborne isolation rooms, except household contacts for r/o TB sometimes, compassionate cases, and parents of minor children in some cases.

For the situation you are describing with a COVID patient, when we care for these COVID cases who die, they are often over 20 days into their infection by the end. So, you can still be in ICU vented for ARDS due to COVID-19 pneumonia but no longer infectious, so I remove the iso orders and visitors are allowed. This is supported by the evidence that this is safe to do, allows less stress for staff and less PPE use too, frees up airborne rooms, and has been practice since last fall at least (or was it summer? it all runs together). Immunocompromised patients may end up with longer than 20 days iso.

We screen visitors for symptoms, temp, exposures (if you are supposed to be quarantined you can't come in), but don't require a negative test or proof of vaccination. Most hospitals allow 1 visitor per patient per day right now in my region. I adjust that for my hospital based on community prevalence. A bit ago it was 2. For a long time it was no visitors for anyone. No visitors is very distressing to patients and family. It can even be distressing for staff. Some visitors are very helpful to the patient and staff... some are most definitely not... telling parents of COVIDy children to either immediately get back in the ED iso room with their kid or leave hospital immediately when they step out into the ER hall to make a cellphone call is always so much of a fun conversation!

[Benny Profane]

Kyle Rittenhouse lawyer.

[Vt-Freeheel]