To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[ron johnson]

Which of those do you think demonstrates 99% immunity? Why don’t you start by defining 99% immunity.

You know exactly what I mean - risk of reinfection.

[ron johnson]

And yet given the fact you posted a chart which contradicted your table in support of your table clearly showed your arguments, regardless of whether you understood why at the time, were incorporating the base rate fallacy. You were wrong then and you are wrong now.

The chart and the table came as one image. I posted the image for the table, none of my arguments were based on the chart.

The chart and the table do not contradict each other. The table is looking at cases only and the chart is looking at cases and hospitalizations.

[Conundrum]

Why would I want to post stoke considering how this community acts towards me?

Isn’t there a snowboard forum that would be more accepting of your drivel? I mean sure, there are some ripping snowboarders here that are cool people. Judging by your lack of stoke, I assuming you don’t rip and your posts in the padded room indicate you fall short on the latter point as well.

[Kinnikinnick]

#1. I responded by providing data from the CDC that supports my claim (and includes Delta data).

#2. It wasn't an ongoing challenge. So even if you were right in this instance it wouldn't qualify.

Nope

You lose on the terms you made

Go away


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[k2skier112]

RJ's a chick?

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/oan-d...b0454ed70d9aa5
OAN Interviews Woman Falsely Claiming COVID-19 Vaccine Makes Her Magnetic

[k2skier112]

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[MagnificentUnicorn]

We’re sending a 34 female to the UW to be placed on ECMO, her only co-morbidity is that she falls in the overweight category, not obese. We do have a vaccinated patient in ICU now, he’s 84 and has CHF, DM and COPD, he’s on comfort care. This aligns with the data and the news.


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[ron johnson]

The stuff you claim to get right, whether it is why climate change isn’t real, isn’t caused by humans, or COVID won’t be that bad, masks don’t work, the vaccine isn’t that effective etc. is generally all bad studies, antidotal evidence, or information that is heavily disputed but it is generally real data. But you are too stupid and ignorant to look at complex statistical data and scientific studies and make reasonable conclusions. This trait is exacerbated by your arrogance to think that you possibly know more than the PhD physicists, epidemiologists, climatologists, etc. who draw the opposite conclusions as you.

Looks like you went back and added this after I replied.

Never said climate change isn't real. Never said humans haven't contributed. Total mischaracterizations.

Have said that COVID isn't that bad for young people and the vaccine isn't nearly as effective as claimed. Both of these are 100% true. My mask studies are better than yours, but it's the real world data that I'm relying on for that position.

[Conundrum]

I’m still willing to bet you’re a shitty snowboarder.

[ron johnson]

Isn’t there a snowboard forum that would be more accepting of your drivel? I mean sure, there are some ripping snowboarders here that are cool people. Judging by your lack of stoke, I assuming you don’t rip and your posts in the padded room indicate you fall short on the latter point as well.

There isn't a good snowboard forum AFAIK. I snowboard 100+ days a year, doubt there are many on this forum better than me.

[MultiVerse]

"practically no difference in the infection rate between vaxxed and non-vaxxed" -- ron johnson

[Conundrum]

There isn't a good snowboard forum AFAIK. I snowboard 100+ days a year, doubt there are many on this forum better than me.

You’re so adept at proving your views on covid proving that you’re the best snowboarder on TGR should be child’s play. Until then, you’re a turd.

[ron johnson]

I’m still willing to bet you’re a shitty snowboarder.

How much do you want to bet and how would we go about proving it?

[ron johnson]

"practically no difference in the infection rate between vaxxed and non-vaxxed" -- ron johnson

Quote was based on this table:

[Kinnikinnick]

Nope.


The game is over.

You lost, by your own rules.

Now honor your promise and go away.


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[Conundrum]

How much do you want to bet and how would we go about proving it?

Monetary or something of more value, respect? I’ll PayPal or Venmo you $37 if you post some vids/pics of yourself and start a poll if it is stoke. If others vote it’s stoke worthy, I’ll send the cash. If you’re not materialistic, I’ll post that your pics are rad as a sign of respect. Im sure others would too.

If people say you’re a gaper, you should leave here. Go find a covid forum to eat farts with other online experts.

Deal?

[MultiVerse]

For all RJ's backpedaling and incredibly bad retroactive explanations, now he’s blaming the table, RJ's quote essentially summarizes his lies over the past two weeks.

Even after being told the table contained bad data due to an error and presented with normalized July data showing 3 times more unvaccinated cases vs vaccinated, he continued to push his narrative instead focusing on a news article that also contained bad data.

Now that his position is clearly untenable, he's resorted to saying he never said the things he said.
Because from his perspective it doesn't matter. The goal is to lie so garishly, so gratuitously, in order to muddy the waters so the casual observer throws up their hands and walks away. Ron's frauds offer easy fantasy fiction but never hold up to scrutiny.

[Danno]

Believe it or not, pretty sure he is telling the truth about his snowboarding. Doesn't make him not a turd.

[Conundrum]

Believe it or not, pretty sure he is telling the truth about his snowboarding. Doesn't make him not a turd.

I hope he is. This is a ski and sports forum with a deep dark hole to get through summer. He seems to spend the stoke seasons hiding in the hole. Maybe this is a chance for him to turn a leaf over.

[::: :::]

Why is it so hard to just toss him?
Zero people are standing up for him.
He’s not working from a position of good faith.
He just shows up to be a purposeful contrarian and fuels off the responses.
IE a troll

This thread is already sideways because of this

[XXX-er]

You rocket biologists realize if you don't talk to ron he just drops off the page right ?

[::: :::]

You rocket biologists realize if you don't talk to ron he just drops off the page right ?

If only it worked that way…
the thread shows differently

[MagnificentUnicorn]

RJ “I’m exceptional in every way”


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[tuco]

To be fair this is a ski/ snowboard and various other sports forum. Plenty of badass and cool snowboarders out there.

Now I wonder if Ron IS Amero dude(Amero is a good snowboarder)!?!

[XXX-er]

If only it worked that way…
the thread shows differently

well you have 2 chioces either talk to him or don't talk,

talk to him and he will keep talking

don't talk he gets bored and bugs someone else

but someone alwasy wants to talk to the troll