To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[splat]

and for the record I fully believe in ones right to get vax or not.
And Im not trying to sell you anything.

Who the fuck said you're trying to do anything other than look like a right wing tool?

I can see that hasn't changed even in the face of a pandemic you witness daily.

[Salvelinusconfluentus]

Worth the minute of your time……No lies told:
https://twitter.com/travon/status/14...029013512?s=21

Antivaxxers should have to wait in line behind other illnesses, injuries and the few vaccinated covid cases when they get covid.

If someone else needs their vent, their bed, their nurse? Discharge them.

Or maybe they could set up hospital tents in the parking lot and the antivaxxer nurses can care for the antivaxxers.

[dunfree]

The most unbelievable part of that whole mess is that that dude convinced two different women to have unprotected sex with him, and let him finish inside them, all within a year.

have you ever been to DC? It’s easily the most believable part. Just like that arrogant dumb sack of shit making millions off of peoples faces he pisses in.

[The AD]

The most unbelievable part of that whole mess is that that dude convinced two different women to have unprotected sex with him, and let him finish inside them, all within a year.

Who is it?

[dunfree]

Who is it?

jason miller.

[SKIP IN7RO]

matthew-taylor-coleman-surf-school-owner-arrested-after-his-kids-1-and-3-found-stabbed-to-death

This shit is fucking people up.

[Salvelinusconfluentus]

matthew-taylor-coleman-surf-school-owner-arrested-after-his-kids-1-and-3-found-stabbed-to-death

This shit is fucking people up.

That article says nothing about covid. Sounds like dude had some kind of psychotic break.

Too bad we are so lacking in mental healthcare here... surfer dude should a been in a hospital kids would have been safe.

[SKIP IN7RO]

[The surf instructor posted about his Christian faith online, wondering in a November 2020 Facebook post whether “there is a type of Great American Renaissance following the years of Covid, censorship, and political divisiveness... that will empower each person’s heart to come alive and explode with innovative ideas, new business models, new music sounds and never seen ways to build an amazing community?”

Just a month earlier, Coleman had celebrated the birth of the couple’s youngest child, Roxy Rain, in an Instagram post.

“While waiting for her to come, I kept feeling this sense that she was going to be born at a very pivotal time in history and that she would represent a dawn, or even awakening, to years of great blessing for our family and nation,” he wrote. “Another picture that came to me was of God reaching down into a river bed and picking up a small stone (rock), examining it intently. Just as David had done before slaying Goliath, God examined the stone and was confident that it was just the perfect one for the battle. Although it was small, smooth and somewhat harmless looking, he knew that it would become great when placed into the palm of a skilled hand. My declaration over Roxy Rain is that she has been hand picked by God to slay the giants in the land.”]

[neufox47]

I know people who get Covid then vaccinated had the most robust response. What about people who were vaxxed then got Covid? I can’t seem to find anything. Can’t wait for my kids to be able to get vaxxed. At that point I feel like I’ll be able to relax.

My wife got moderna when she was 6 months pregnant. We felt the benefit out weighed the risk. No issues, maybe the baby even got a little bit of immunity https://healthblog.uofmhealth.org/wo...tects-newborns


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[Salvelinusconfluentus]

I agree, with a huge BUT. They basically tell pregnant women not to take meds of ANY type, unless absolutely necessary. All kinds of other weird shit too. Fish (mercury), caffeine, cold meds, the list goes on. Each woman has to make THEIR choice.

While I personally trust the vaccines they are still in emergency auth state. Not fully FDA approved.

ETA: if I was still considering children I would have to give a good amount of though to asking my wife to take a vaccine during pregnancy. If not vax I'm would basically take all other extreme covid type precautions.

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Or you could suggest she ask her doctor. Then another if she wants a second opinion. Then she could see what the CDC is recommending.

Really. People spend a lot of years learning so they can understand this shit way better than us.

Covid poses more risk to mama/baby than the vaccine. No reasonable other way to mitigate covid risk? Vaccine.

Duh.

[bodywhomper]

I know people who get Covid then vaccinated had the most robust response. What about people who were vaxxed then got Covid? I can’t seem to find anything. Can’t wait for my kids to be able to get vaxxed. At that point I feel like I’ll be able to relax.

Not sure what your asking.

I agree about relaxing once all the kids are vaxed, <sigh>.

I really like what LAUSD is planning to do, frequent testing all that enter campuses regardless of vax status. Surveillance testing, that also helps surveillance of the larger community.

[Yonder_River]

My wife's hospital is now over capacity as of today. They are also very short staffed. Most surgeries are being cancelled, definitely none that require staying overnight.

Most covid patients are unvaccinated but the vaccinated portion they do have are all Pfizer and j&j shots..

She's also hearing a fair amount of chatter throughout her nationwide health system that the amount of sick and mostly unvaccinated kids and young adults coming into the hospitals is catching everyone off guard. Many are shocked.

One can only imagine how bad Delta would have been prior to vaccinations, particularly with older adults so this is better than that, but still the most young and sick they've seen in their careers.

[bodywhomper]

Can only imagine what India went through

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[riser4]

matthew-taylor-coleman-surf-school-owner-arrested-after-his-kids-1-and-3-found-stabbed-to-death

This shit is fucking people up.

Yes, we all know that Q is really bad for you, especially if you have underlying mental health issues and or are an evangelical Christian.

[Flounder]

mid thirties, boston? i can’t imagine there are too many of these…

Both ABC news and CBS news did stories on this. Two different families, one black, one white. Both moms on ventilators. It could be more prevalent than expected, hence the warning to get the vaccine.

[jono]

Earlier on the numbers seemed to indicate that pregnant women were at less risk but pregnant women are also young and at least healthy enough to get pregnant. Change to delta and that's not so protective.

[Kinnikinnick]

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[paulster2626]

So, my neighbors across the street are cool. Mom is Canadian, dad is originally Jamaican but lives in Florida and just moved up here. They have 2 teenage boys. Dad and the boys went down to Florida to visit family a few weeks ago. Dunno about vaccine status. So down there they've got 5 "kids" (24 and under, so not little kids), the dad, dad's sister, and dad's grandma all sharing a home. They all get COVID.

Grandma has died (she's considered elderly), kids were sick but seem to be recovering, dad's in the hospital, and I can't remember where the sister is (I think she's in the hospital too). Last time the mom spoke with anyone, one of the kids was at Wal Mart buying oxygen (?). Yeah she's just as confused as me. Anyway this is a terrible situation for everyone - but Florida is fine and it's just the flu, right?

[TBS]

^^^This is the kind of attitude you get in a country founded by criminals…

[summit]

I know people who get Covid then vaccinated had the most robust response. What about people who were vaxxed then got Covid?

There isn't a lot of data

[old_newguy]

My wife's hospital is now over capacity as of today. They are also very short staffed. Most surgeries are being cancelled, definitely none that require staying overnight.

Most covid patients are unvaccinated but the vaccinated portion they do have are all Pfizer and j&j shots..

She's also hearing a fair amount of chatter throughout her nationwide health system that the amount of sick and mostly unvaccinated kids and young adults coming into the hospitals is catching everyone off guard. Many are shocked.

One can only imagine how bad Delta would have been prior to vaccinations, particularly with older adults so this is better than that, but still the most young and sick they've seen in their careers.

I know we like to spend our time here bagging on unvaccinated people, but is there any new data on the risk to kids from COVID?

Has the risk of death or hospitalization increased with Delta or are we just seeing the inevitable result of more cases?

[The SnowShow]

Is there any data re: which vaccine is letting through more breakthrough cases?

[huckbucket]

Waning protection with mRNA vaccines against Delta. Story is evolving, but it might be as low as 50% after 6 months.

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status...14071861936141

Edit to add: Protection here is against infection and not severe disease

[KQ]

Posting for the shear stupidity not because he's a Trump supporter.

Hear why Trump supporter says he won't get the vaccine

[funkendrenchman]

and for the record I fully believe in ones right to get vax or not.
And Im not trying to sell you anything.

And is that like everyone’s right to drink and drive? Or is it like everyone’s right to shoot another person?

Rights stop when they affect other’s health and safety.