To Vaccinate or Not---The Rat Flu Odyssey Continues

[The AD]

Seriously. Since Spring of LAST year, they keep saying the doom and gloom is always 2 weeks away from this or that. Then nothing... Then the next holiday or event, then they say again "2 weeks! You just watch!" Then nothing... Then it's this state or municipality easing up on restrictions a bit, and then they say again "Catastrophe is coming in 2 WEEKS!" Then nothing... It's always "2 weeks" away. Reminds me of the signs you see at bars: "Free beer tomorrow!"

Was I living on the same planet that you were over the last year?

33 million cases and nearly 600,000 deaths in the U.S. alone is nothing?

[Core Shot]

Two weeks

Two weeks

You sound like a parakeet

[MontuckyFried]

Was I living in the same planet that you were over the last year?

33 million cases and nearly 600,000 deaths in the U.S. alone is nothing?

No. Specifically talking about the whole "2 week" thing. They were all screaming how Florida was going to be the death of us all last summer when they eased up. In two weeks of course. Yet after those two weeks came and went, their numbers were no worse than the places that did not relax restrictions. Hmmmm.......

They said the same thing about Texas spring breakers. They said in two-weeks post spring break, we were all gunna die. Yet no spike. Yup. 2 weeks!!!

[bennymac]

Two weeks

Two weeks

You sound like a parakeet

You sound like a troll.

[bennymac]

No. Specifically talking about the whole "2 week" thing. They were all screaming how Florida was going to be the death of us all last summer when they eased up. In two weeks of course. Yet after those two weeks came and went, their numbers were no worse than the places that did not relax restrictions. Hmmmm.......

They said the same thing about Texas spring breakers. They said in two-weeks post spring break, we were all gunna die. Yet no spike. Yup. 2 weeks!!!

And there are places where stuff like this was said and then shit the fan 2 weeks later.

There also are places where restrictions weren’t put in place or weren’t strong enough and shit hit the fan - and then the public is like “WTF why didn’t the government listen to the experts!”

I get that if you say “2 weeks!” and that doesn’t happen (a disaster) that this erodes the public’s trust in that particular geographic area the next time it’s said - but that’s more a failure of critical thinking and media bias than anything you’re suggesting.

But how are we to know which areas will - in the future - not see the disaster and which ones will?

[Buster Highmen]

Was I living on the same planet that you were over the last year?

No.

There you have it.

[MontuckyFried]

I get that if you say “2 weeks!” and that doesn’t happen (a disaster) that this erodes the public’s trust in that particular geographic area the next time it’s said

Precisely what I was getting at. Not saying it can't/won't happen. Just that after 1-1/2 years of CNN's 24/7 panic porn saying the whole "2 week" thing over and over again, at a certain point most people kind of stop paying attention.

[jackstraw]

Precisely what I was getting at. Not saying it can't/won't happen. Just that after 1-1/2 years of CNN's 24/7 panic porn saying the whole "2 week" thing over and over again, at a certain point most people kind of stop paying attention.

Not enough people died for your likings?

[The Tortoise]

Why 2 weeks? Average onset of symptoms is 5 days. Real test is..... this weekend?

At the very least, two weeks allows for a family member or 3 to become infected and develop symptoms. And we've seen that exponential growth continues long past the implemenation of restrictions, so the real numbers come out at the 3-4 week mark.

[jackstraw]

That's absurd. People have been unmasked for months now. Typically CNN, dealing in fear.

No, they haven't you ignorant fuck!

22k new cases yesterday and that doesn't count the people not getting tested. Which without a doubt has been and is still a significant number.

[Core Shot]

[bennymac]

Precisely what I was getting at. Not saying it can't/won't happen. Just that after 1-1/2 years of CNN's 24/7 panic porn saying the whole "2 week" thing over and over again, at a certain point most people kind of stop paying attention.

You reveal yourself when you limit it to just CNN (which everyone knows sucks ass). Who do you turn to for news? Because if it’s not Fox you deserve a congrats for how well you’re able to channel their particular brand of panic porn and reality denial.

[MontuckyFried]

You reveal yourself when you limit it to just CNN (which everyone knows sucks ass). Who do you turn to for news? Because if it’s not Fox you deserve a congrats for how well you’re able to channel their particular brand of panic porn and reality denial.

I specifically mentioned CNN because that was the source of the article KQ posted saying once again, "2 Weeks."

[evdog]

Was I living on the same planet that you were over the last year?

Same planet. It's just that one of you missed a lot with his head inserted up his ass.

[PNWbrit]

Just that after 1-1/2 years of CNN's 24/7 panic porn

Cretin

[RoooR]

You all are spending WAY too much time worrying about the Unvaxed among you. The breakthrough infections / hospitalizations are exceedingly rare to the point that you are taking much bigger risks in your daily life. I'm back to normal. Went to a wedding last weekend. I've eaten inside, been to bars, can't wait to go sit in a cold theater on a hot day. This thing will continue to kill 40k+ UNVAXED every year. Fuck 'em.

[The AD]

Why 2 weeks? Average onset of symptoms is 5 days. Real test is..... this weekend?

Yes, but there are reporting lags and lags in when people get tested. I'd say two weeks is probably a decent benchmark. One week certainly isn't enough time.

And with almost half the country still unvaxxed, and that half largely behaving exactly like the vaxxed half--if not actually engaging in more risky behavior--it wouldn't surprise me at all to see new cases start climbing. There's still an awfully big potential host pool out there.

[bennymac]

We have covered this a few times. There are people who cannot be vaccinated that would still like to not contract covid. I get that this sucks for them and they likely don’t want to contract other communicable diseases either - so their lives are always gonna be about balancing risk with contagious diseases.

It’s still spring. I can wait a few more weeks to let more people get vaccinated and still have a great summer. Booking trip to Europe in the fall. I don’t need to be back to 100% normal life today.

[rideit]

Hunh.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/02/polit...inations-beer/

[RoooR]

Hunh.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/02/polit...inations-beer/

Those are some good carrots. Eventually we'll need to use some sticks as well. Like letting insurance companies charge higher premiums for the UNVAXED and/or not have to cover COVID treatment for the UNVAXED.

[k2skier112]

And just to be clear about my boy who cried wolf analogy, I'm not saying it's impossible the doom or gloom scenario CAN'T happen! My point rather is that if/when that no shit scenario does hit, people won't take it seriously because they've heard "2 weeks!" about a thousand times by now. When that hungry wolf really does hit the village, nobody's listening to the little boy (CNN) any more and then people really are screwed because they didn't listen to the one time he was telling the truth.

There's been 4 fucking waves you idiot, with lots of hot spot break-outs. For fucts sake, your biased shit got old 5 years ago

[k2skier112]

2nd Pfizer today 5 hours ago...nothing so far
10 hours later, arm getting sore, like a charlie horse

Next morning arm was sore. Took acetaminophen and ibuprofen, played a round of golf, feels like new less than 24 hours later, not a trace of flu like symptoms

[rideit]

WV ups the Ante

[powdrhound]

Those are some good carrots. Eventually we'll need to use some sticks as well. Like letting insurance companies charge higher premiums for the UNVAXED and/or not have to cover COVID treatment for the UNVAXED.

Are you thinking that this should apply to Flu shots, as well? Or any other/all vaccines?

[PB]

And what about dental hygiene?!?
And nasal, toe nail and ear hair hygiene too!!!!!

All carrots, all the time!