Zwift, TR, Sufferfest etc

[huckbucket]

Well done boys. Said it before, but I think London is one of the harder worlds even when you're not on the hills.

Need a rundown of the entertainment. Which movies? What music?

[huckbucket]

We really missed an opportunity to change the sock height slider on different laps to see if it made a measurable difference.

Everyone knows double draft negates any sock height effect.

[EWG]

I think it’s awesome that Dee wanted a spreadsheet so badly without his computer that he wrote one on his top tube in crayon.

[bennymac]

Well done boys. Said it before, but I think London is one of the harder worlds even when you're not on the hills.

Need a rundown of the entertainment. Which movies? What music?

For some reason I don’t get bored on zwift - even riding 11 laps of that loop. I have music playing (mix of 90s hip hop and techno) but have yet to feel the need for putting a movie on. My wife thinks I’m crazy for getting up early on a Saturday to ride for 6 hours - more so that I don’t get bored.

I guess part of the lack of boredom is due to my need to focus on managing my effort closely or else I’ll bonk or blow up. I felt like ass at the 75km point. Took a break and changed my kit and drank a bunch of fluids and felt good after that.

Legs are super sore today - a lot more than they were after Uber Pretzel last month.

[Dee Hubbs]

I had the football on. I watched 3 full matches with all the in between game analysis.
I don’t really get bored in Zwift there’s enough to look at, and enough metrics to keep my mind moving. Constantly calculating lap times, estimated overall times, reverse calculating watts to w/kg, calculating what power zone that is based on FTP.
I also like to look at all the other riders and picked out some new kit I want, based off of what looked good out on the road. I have some new shoes, glasses and a helmet in my upcoming future level ups, some motivation for more XP points.
I can’t have anything on the TV for a TGR ride. I’ll focus on a break away in a hockey game, and then look back at the Zwift screen and realize I’m 15m behind the group.
For this big ride I set my iPhone to beep every 10 mins, so I would drink, and on the 1/2 and full hour I’d eat.
I had lots of shirts ready for changes, and did the bib change/cream re-apply on the downhill coast at the 3:20 mark. That only added 2 mins to my normal lap time.
I agree it takes some concentration to keep yourself in your power zone (to avoid over doing it), but with two big TVs in front of the bike, it’s a quick glance between the two screens.
I also run my Companion app on the handle bar, with my Garmin out front computer also going, with data from a my crank based secondary power meter.
Garmin screen is set for a 4 field screen w Watts, Average Watts, W/kg (instant, not 3 second smoothing) and cadence. I look at the power numbers on my bars more than on screen, even in a TGR ride. I think it mimics my normal outdoor riding habits.

I felt pretty good the whole time, I only felt bad for that stupid final 10km after the lap 11 banner. But I think I was mentally done by then, especially since it was 20 minutes over my calculated time.

Legs actually feel pretty good today, just really hungry this morning. I just did a 25km spin to move some blood in my legs. I got Mrs Dee a new Wahoo Kickr (ordered in Oct!) so we did a little side by side spin at 2.0 w/kg in France to knock out a badge.

[XtrPickels]

I also run my Companion app on the handle bar, with my Garmin out front computer also going, with data from a my crank based secondary power meter.

What do you have your phone mounted with?

I'm in the process of trying to glue a Wahoo male mount to an iphone case and I think it's going to be sketchy at best.

[EWG]

What do you have your phone mounted with?

I'm in the process of trying to glue a Wahoo male mount to an iphone case and I think it's going to be sketchy at best.

I use this one

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B078L...b_b_asin_title

[Dee Hubbs]

What do you have your phone mounted with?

I'm in the process of trying to glue a Wahoo male mount to an iphone case and I think it's going to be sketchy at best.

You're on the right track. I'm on the same program, but I used 2 part epoxy to ensure it was not sketchy.
I paid some young whippersnapper $10 to 3D print me a few Garmin male mounts. I epoxied one to the back of the cheapest soft plastic $5 iPhone case I could find at Walmart. Then I just used the Garmin Female bar mount with rubber bands. It stays mounted to my bike. I just snap my iPhone out of my everyday case, and snap it into the bike case.
I oriented the male mount on the iPhone case so that can run the iPhone vertical on the stem with my Gamin Computer mounted out front, or I can run the iPhone horizontal on the out front mount.

[XtrPickels]

I think I need to grab a different case: The silicone one is proving to be a bit "non-stick"

[dan_pdx]

Pleased to report that I am no longer a sockless heathen.

Also, after trying to watch a movie during one of Zwift's canned interval workouts yesterday, I'm probably giving up on that. It screws up both the movie and the workout. I need to either watch even shittier movies, or try out music or podcasts.

[VTskibum]

Pleased to report that I am no longer a sockless heathen.

Also, after trying to watch a movie during one of Zwift's canned interval workouts yesterday, I'm probably giving up on that. It screws up both the movie and the workout. I need to either watch even shittier movies, or try out music or podcasts.

Music is good no matter the intensity, podcasts and movies definitely better served by easy to watch/listen. I wouldn’t want to watch anything serious, but action flicks are usually my go to


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[EWG]

Pleased to report that I am no longer a sockless heathen.

Also, after trying to watch a movie during one of Zwift's canned interval workouts yesterday, I'm probably giving up on that. It screws up both the movie and the workout. I need to either watch even shittier movies, or try out music or podcasts.

Yeah but if you are doing a lot of easy rides on ERG mode (and easy rides are important) movies, especially bad ones, work great.

Edited to say you better not show up with 21cm socks...

[kathleenturneroverdrive]

If you're into that sort of thing Survivor is the shit for ERG rides. It's super predictable, doesn't matter if you miss several minutes, entirely inconsequential, but still pretty damn fun. I didn't even know I liked it until started zwift and was hunting for something to watch.

[XtrPickels]

Pleased to report that I am no longer a sockless heathen.

Also, after trying to watch a movie during one of Zwift's canned interval workouts yesterday, I'm probably giving up on that. It screws up both the movie and the workout. I need to either watch even shittier movies, or try out music or podcasts.

Movies are hard during workouts.
But, a soundbar and subwoofer immediately in front of you are great...

For base rides, I put a TV series up on the TV. I've watched all of Breaking Bad, Etc. this way. I only let myself watch it while riding, this keeps me looking forward to the next ride.

I recently bought a cheap monitor and used an HDMI splitter to keep an eye on Zwift.
When Racing, doing workouts or an event, I run Zwift on both so that I don't have to constantly be looking up at the TV.

AppleTV running Zwift to the Splitter. The splitter then goes to both the Monitor and the TV.
This way I can change Inputs on the TV to the Chromecast to watch shows.

[dan_pdx]

The ride tomorrow is showing as 6 pm Pacific, rather than 5 pm. Is that correct, or some kind of daylight savings hiccup?

[Dee Hubbs]

The ride tomorrow is showing as 6 pm Pacific, rather than 5 pm. Is that correct, or some kind of daylight savings hiccup?

Thanks Dan I'll look into it.

Updated to Tuesday 18:00 MST and Thursday 16:00 EST.

[Dee Hubbs]

6 riders tonight (almost 7)

Justcuz KR
Merlyn SS
XtrPickles
VtSkibum MP
Grmountainman GR
Dee Hubbs (could only hold on for 2 laps)
Honorable mention to DanPDX who shows up to the starting line, but never made a single pedal stroke in game (I bet he was furiously pedaling IRL)

I won’t be there Thursday, I have the late volunteer shift at the Vaccination Clinic. (Plus my legs need a rest)

I noticed Zwift asked for an update on my AppleTV once I ended tonight’s ride. Check to make sure you’re App is up to date.

[VTskibum]

Thanks for hosting as usual DH, especially on post century PRL legs


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[EWG]

Sorry I missed boys. All this training thread talk convinced me that what I really needed today as a nice base ride. So that's what I did.

"Look coach, I did it right. Once. But still."

I'm planning on Thursday.

[fool]

Updated to Tuesday 18:00 MST and Thursday 16:00 EST.

Dee, just sent you a follow request (SC). I'm still working out the kinks with getting Zwift setup but hope to join everyone soon!

[Dee Hubbs]

Dee, just sent you a follow request (SC). I'm still working out the kinks with getting Zwift setup but hope to join everyone soon!

I see you fool!

[dan_pdx]

Yeah, this whole Zwift thing is cool when it works. I lost connection with my trainer right as we started, and when I re-established connection, it put me on the course 5 minutes behind the group. Of course, I could have caught up, but I want to sandbag a few more weeks so I just bailed. (/s in case it's not clear)

I could try a different computer or buy an ANT+ dongle. Anyone here see improvements from switching to an ANT+ dongle from Bluetooth or Zwift Companion?

[bennymac]

I was running multiple things off Bluetooth (power pedals, HRM, wireless keyboard and trackpad) and was getting bad lag in zwift - like 10 seconds for my pedal power/cadence changes to register while otherwise the program was running fine.

I bought a USB ant+ dongle (it has a 3-4 foot cord out to a little ant+ tower thingy that I put on the floor near my pedals). No more lag.

[Full Trucker]

I had to get an ANT+ dongle and extension USB cable for my 10+ year old laptop that doesn't have BLE... once I found the sweet spot to put the ANT+ antenna I've had no troubles pairing my KICKR Snap and Garmin cadence sensor 2 with no lag.

I think there's a bunch of posts in this thread about ANT+ stuff if you can search it...

[bennymac]

This is the one I got.